"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am the "lucky" owner of a number of older UPSes.

So what can a person build out of these?

The batteries are for the most part dead but the remainder of the
components seem to be in good condition.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

TMT


Time Machine!

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:23:03 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote:


"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
roups.com...
I am the "lucky" owner of a number of older UPSes.

So what can a person build out of these?

The batteries are for the most part dead but the remainder of the
components seem to be in good condition.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

TMT


Time Machine!

For that..you need a British phone both IRRC.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

"
For that..you need a British phone both IRRC.

Gunner


I need a new battery for my Tardis!

Tom Gardner wrote:

"
For that..you need a British phone both IRRC.

Gunner


I need a new battery for my Tardis!

Borrow one from K-9...

Pete C.

Would a 12 V deep cycle- Optima work in a APC-UPS 1400R I keep my servers
and dyno on with it along with some routers and switches. I don't know the
output, the battery fails and I now have it frightfully bypassed. The
batteries died and are almost 2 bills to replace. voltages ? issues? but I
have a few Optima batteries from wrecked race cars that would be perfect!

Any input would be appreciated,
Rob


Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.
"Pete C." wrote in message
...
Tom Gardner wrote:

"
For that..you need a British phone both IRRC.

Gunner


I need a new battery for my Tardis!

Borrow one from K-9...

Pete C.

RDF wrote:

Would a 12 V deep cycle- Optima work in a APC-UPS 1400R I keep my servers
and dyno on with it along with some routers and switches. I don't know the
output, the battery fails and I now have it frightfully bypassed. The
batteries died and are almost 2 bills to replace. voltages ? issues? but I
have a few Optima batteries from wrecked race cars that would be perfect!

Any input would be appreciated,
Rob

Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.

Unlikely, but while the replacement batteries may be, as you say 2
bills, from APC, if you take the old ones to a proper wholesale battery
distributor they will in all probability be able to sell you proper
replacements for about $20-$25 ea.

Pete C.

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:52:01 -0600, "RDF"
wrote:

Would a 12 V deep cycle- Optima work in a APC-UPS 1400R I keep my servers
and dyno on with it along with some routers and switches. I don't know the
output, the battery fails and I now have it frightfully bypassed. The
batteries died and are almost 2 bills to replace. voltages ? issues? but I
have a few Optima batteries from wrecked race cars that would be perfect!

If they are 'Red Top' starting batteries, not really. Starting duty
batteries aren't meant to be deep discharged, even if the Optima
starved electrolyte design will take the abuse far better than most
because electrolyte volume is restricted.

If they're the Yellow Top deep-cycle, or the Blue Top Marine
starting/deep cycle, and the voltages are right, yes.

But realize it might work TOO well when compared with a standard
gel-cell battery. Those Optima batteries can deliver frightening
amounts of short-circuit current for several seconds and the circuit
can fry before a fuse can react.

-- Bruce --

--
Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545
Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net.

Would a 12 V deep cycle- Optima work in a APC-UPS 1400R I keep my servers
and dyno on with it along with some routers and switches. I don't know the
output, the battery fails and I now have it frightfully bypassed. The
batteries died and are almost 2 bills to replace. voltages ? issues? but
I have a few Optima batteries from wrecked race cars that would be
perfect!
===================
Suggest you check the charging instructions on the original battery and
compare these with the ones applicable to the Optima type of battery.
The battery in a UPS is on 'standby duty' The charging instruction for a
YUASA SLA found in many UPSes has the following for standby duty :
Voltage regulation : 13.5 - 13.8 V
Initial current : Unlimited

Connect the Optima battery to the UPS and check the voltage when the
battery is fully charged . You can charge the battery externally to say 13.5
volt before you connect it to the UPS. If the fully charged voltage is in
the above range ,you can safely use it for this purpose.
I would think that any 12 V SLA will happily work with your APC UPS 1400R
,provided its capacity is adequate for the load to be maintained for the
minimum time needed. If you use a number of batts in parallel ,please
ensure there is an adequate FUSE in each battery circuit !
You can also connect a much larger 12 V sealed battery to the UPS (for
example those used in electric golf trolleys). Even non-sealed batts can be
used provided they are located in a well ventilated area .
I have non-sealed batts located on the loft connected via leads made from
welding cable running to equipment in the ground floor radio shack ( to feed
radio equipment requiring a peak current not exceeding 25 Amperes)

Above I mentioned batts for Golf trolleys because their cost is very
reasonable nowadays there being a relatively large demand , hence
competition (pun intended)

Frank GMØCSZ / KN6WH

Thanks for the input! I'll get out the Fluke and download the .PDF and see
what I can find before I burn the place down I was sort of hoping to be
able to replace the stock batteries but they are so insanely expensive,
hacking the box for batteries I have no use for (Still in the plastic wrap
and caps on. got them in a barter) Get this- Mercedes wanted $430.00 to
replace my battery for P/M- Yea right, my car now has a Optima yellow in the
trunk and why a factory (much smaller and lighter too) battery would be junk
after two years blows my mind.

Thanks for the info and help!

Rob Fraser


Fraser Competition Engines
Chicago, IL.


"Highland Ham" wrote in message
...
Would a 12 V deep cycle- Optima work in a APC-UPS 1400R I keep my servers
and dyno on with it along with some routers and switches. I don't know
the output, the battery fails and I now have it frightfully bypassed. The
batteries died and are almost 2 bills to replace. voltages ? issues? but
I have a few Optima batteries from wrecked race cars that would be
perfect!
===================
Suggest you check the charging instructions on the original battery and
compare these with the ones applicable to the Optima type of battery.
The battery in a UPS is on 'standby duty' The charging instruction for a
YUASA SLA found in many UPSes has the following for standby duty :
Voltage regulation : 13.5 - 13.8 V
Initial current : Unlimited

Connect the Optima battery to the UPS and check the voltage when the
battery is fully charged . You can charge the battery externally to say
13.5 volt before you connect it to the UPS. If the fully charged
voltage is in the above range ,you can safely use it for this purpose.
I would think that any 12 V SLA will happily work with your APC UPS 1400R
,provided its capacity is adequate for the load to be maintained for the
minimum time needed. If you use a number of batts in parallel ,please
ensure there is an adequate FUSE in each battery circuit !
You can also connect a much larger 12 V sealed battery to the UPS (for
example those used in electric golf trolleys). Even non-sealed batts can
be used provided they are located in a well ventilated area .
I have non-sealed batts located on the loft connected via leads made from
welding cable running to equipment in the ground floor radio shack ( to
feed radio equipment requiring a peak current not exceeding 25 Amperes)

Above I mentioned batts for Golf trolleys because their cost is very
reasonable nowadays there being a relatively large demand , hence
competition (pun intended)

Frank GMØCSZ / KN6WH