Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

For as long as you are prepared to illustrate so graphically
the difference between a CBer, an M3/CB Fools' Licensee, a
CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham and a _REAL_ Radio
Ham with his gentlemanly traditions, I am prepared to
watch you bemusedly from the sidelines and to chastise
you for your ridiculous outbursts.

It is important that we as Radio Hams make a stand for
civilised behaviour and decency against the vile CBer,
no matter how he might have slipped into our midst.

Don't you realise how silly and ridiculous you make yourself
look, by indulging in what are essentially very infantile
abusive tirades in an international forum that is broadcast to
the whole world?

However, if you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then just carry on as you are with your Childish Broadcasting (CB).

You, coming as you do from a background as a ship's radio
"officer", really ought to know better.
Indeed, it is difficult to see, in the light of your
well-demonstrated infantile disposition, how you could
ever have been the export sales manager for a well-
respected company such as Wood & Douglas.

Shame on you. You should know better. What on Earth would Alan
Wood G4EEE think of the bad publicity you are visiting on
his company?

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.

wrote:

Before the (G4) Sad Dim Wit spots that grammatical error,

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

It does not say much for you that you side with those
whose habit is gratuious and offensive remarks and
that you criticise those who would steadfastly stand up
for decency and for civilised behaviour.

Stuart Crow wrote:
.....
the rot set into British Amateur Radio some time late in the G4 series, and
could be forgiven for avoiding contact with it as far as possible.

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

As a late G4 callsign,

Yur deed ? .......

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

Just another silly boy, who needs to grow up, then????


Like it or not, the hobby will move towards operating rather than
'homebrewing', our time may be better spent, educating,not insulting,
new licencees, (they will be all we have to talk to, one day!!)

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

Thank you, by the way for the above remark. This is the first time I
have had any direct contact with you. I have never directly criticised
you, or your views.

Can you tell me who posted ( on Dec 21 at 3:47 PM):- the following:-

I am a decent, civilised, law-abiding citizen, I NEVER ORIGINATE
PERSONAL ATTACKS

{My italics..}
Merry Christmas...

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

Sorry, my capitals...........

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

Some confusion on your part, I think, because the post to which
you are replying was addressed to Stuart Crowe in response to
his rather silly and infantile gratuitous remarks directed at me.

You, however, seem to be F.Cooper, and the post to which you
reply was not addressed to you.

With a quick GoogleMiner session, neither your email addresses
nor your NNTP programs are the same.

Like a number of new contributors to this NG, you very rapidly
metamorphose into an aggressive challenger, for what reason
I do not know.

The answer to your question is that, yes, I never originate
personal attacks, I only ever assert the right of reply, and
the right of chastisement when answering posts that are
somewhat infantile as I did in the post to which you responded.

It is important that any self-respecting _REAL Radio Ham makes
a stand for decency and for civilised behaviour, a course of
action that I admonish you, in your turn, to follow.

G4ZWI wrote:
Thank you, by the way for the above remark. This is the first time I
have had any direct contact with you. I have never directly criticised
you, or your views.
Can you tell me who posted ( on Dec 21 at 3:47 PM):- the following:-
I am a decent, civilised, law-abiding citizen, I NEVER ORIGINATE
PERSONAL ATTACKS
{My italics..}
Merry Christmas...

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On 23 Dec 2005 16:57:21 -0800, wrote:

It's a shame, but the reality is that us radio hams are congenital
tightwads!

It is significant, is it not, that the only people who make this
allegation are those who have been involved (or still are) in the
business of making money out of selling equipment to the said "radio
hams". I have heard this complaint innumerable times from failed
amateur radio traders ... with whom this country is awash.

You don't listen to many amateur then Walt. A definite trait of the radio
amateur is "short arms and deep pockets"- a positive trait in my view but
still worthy of a bit of mirth. I like a bargain as much as the next man and
(re)using a bit of "junk" to repair or make something is far more pleasing
than flashing the credit card.

--
73
Brian
www.g8osn.org.uk

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

"G4ZWI" wrote in news:1135408546.866424.72730
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

As a late G4 callsign, and therefore, it seems, being responsible for
the rot

I don't see why you'd draw that conclusion, Fred, since my post clearly
referred to one particular contributor. Rot generally takes time to
spread, and starts out with a small area of contamination. There are still
some good people coming into the hobby even now judging from the bands.

(P.S. I believe Santa Claus is bringing me a Yaesu FT817, with c.w.
filter for Christmas. Should I send it back???)

That ain't going to warm a cold shack much at this time of year - I'd
rather have a nice L7 or a TL922. Merry Xmas!

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

If I am in error, sir, I will stand corrected. I believe, however, most
people following this thread would conclude your post 89 was directed
to me, as I did.
I am sorry if I do not live up to your ideal radio amateur, and wish
you once again,
Merry Christmas.
(Please do not respond to this post, as I have no intention of
following this thread further)
Fred Cooper G4ZWI

FAQ - revised version
 

You are a LIAR.

I have _NEVER belittled any "of the hard work and enthusiasm
shown by various members of" your "scout group"

I did not even know that you had a scout troop.

But since you raise the issue, if they are, indeed, scouts
and are over the age of 11 years, and they have had to put
in "hard work" to pass an exam intended for 6-year-olds,
then they are not achievers but retards.

wrote:
Or because I objected to
your belittlement of the hard work and enthusiasm shown by various
members of our scout group?

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:02:00 GMT, "Brian Reay"
wrote:

"Walt Davidson" wrote:
On 23 Dec 2005 16:57:21 -0800, wrote:

It's a shame, but the reality is that us radio hams are congenital
tightwads!

It is significant, is it not, that the only people who make this
allegation are those who have been involved (or still are) in the
business of making money out of selling equipment to the said "radio
hams". I have heard this complaint innumerable times from failed
amateur radio traders ... with whom this country is awash.

You don't listen to many amateur then Walt. A definite trait of the radio
amateur is "short arms and deep pockets"- a positive trait in my view but
still worthy of a bit of mirth. I like a bargain as much as the next man
and
(re)using a bit of "junk" to repair or make something is far more pleasing
than flashing the credit card.

I quite agree, Brian ... but there is a world of difference between
being "a congenital tightwad" and merely being a prudent spender!


Surely the best accolade a "prudent spender" can receive is to be called "a
congenital tightwad" ;-)

--
73
Brian
www.g8osn.org.uk

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

If you do not wish for there to be a right of reply, then you
would be better served if you do not contribute at all.

I did not say that you do not live up to my "ideal radio amateur";
in fact, I do not even use the term.

To the contrary, from what you have posted recently, you do
seem to be a _REAL_ Radio Ham in (most of) the best
traditions thereto.

A Merry (Belated) Solstice to you, also.

G4ZWI wrote:
If I am in error, sir, I will stand corrected. I believe, however, most
people following this thread would conclude your post 89 was directed
to me, as I did.
I am sorry if I do not live up to your ideal radio amateur, and wish
you once again,
Merry Christmas.
(Please do not respond to this post, as I have no intention of
following this thread further)
Fred Cooper G4ZWI

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

73 de G3NYY [VERY careful with his money!]


Ok Wlat

Sew you showed the ScotchMan how to weld his sporran up

And Super glue for the Yorkshiremans wallet to boot

Happy Crimbo All

Well to all that's not in my KillFile

DieSea

FAQ - revised version
 

Pierian Spring of verbal diarrhoea wrote:
But since you raise the issue, if they are, indeed, scouts
and are over the age of 11 years, and they have had to put
in "hard work" to pass an exam intended for 6-year-olds,
then they are not achievers but retards.

and since, I believe, _YOU_ sat the RAE when in your twenties what does
that make _YOU_ ? A super retard?
To use your words, 'GROW UP, MR EVANS.'
Alternatively, FOAD.
....(_!_)...

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

In message .co
Don't you realise how silly and ridiculous you make yourself
look, by indulging in what are essentially very infantile
abusive tirades in an international forum that is broadcast to
the whole world?


Perhaps you should ask yourself the same question?
--
Mike Clayton
'For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing'
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton

FAQ - revised version
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
You are a LIAR.

I have _NEVER belittled any "of the hard work and enthusiasm
shown by various members of" your "scout group"

Really? Which pathetic sociopath wrote, and continues to spam various
newsgroups with, this bitter and twisted little piece of prose then?

"Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme! "

It was you, wasn't it Gareth?

73
Mike G4KFK

FAQ - revised version
 

wrote:
Really? Which pathetic sociopath wrote, and continues to spam various

Definition of a sociopath, for those who were wondering:
Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV-TR)
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a widely
used manual for diagnosing mental and behavioral disorders (see also:
DSM cautionary statement), defines antisocial personality disorder as a
pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of
others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of
the following:
- failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors
as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
- deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or
conning others for personal profit or pleasure
- impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
- irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical
fights or assaults
reckless disregard for safety of self or others
- consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to
sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
- lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or
rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

73
Mike G4KFK

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

on 23/12/2005 21:52 Me said the following:
Pierian Spring wrote:

At one time, Wood & Douglas was a respectable supplier


At one time I wonder if this company was respectable

OUT & ABOUT SYSTEMS LTD
13 HARDENS CLOSE
CHIPPENHAM WILTSHIRE
SN153AA

Std. Industrial Classification (SIC):7372 Prepackaged software
72.20 COMPUTER SERVICES
Turnover:0
Profit:0
Networth:0
Employees:0
Company Registration Number:3144797
http://tinyurl.com/as56c
I wonder what Company he's using for his sub-contracting in Portsmouth,
and what tax arrangements have Bean made?
--
;-)
73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk

Bringing Chippenham in Disrepute
 

Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
on 23/12/2005 21:52 Me said the following:
http://tinyurl.com/as56c
I wonder what Company he's using for his sub-contracting in Portsmouth,
and what tax arrangements have Bean made?

That was worth £2.00 !!!

If anybody would like a Micro$oft RTF format copy of the Company Report
and Accounts, please email me at

But don't expect a reply tomorrow, as it's Xmas!

73
Mike G4KFK

Bringing Chippenham in Disrepute
 

wrote:
If anybody would like a Micro$oft RTF format copy of the Company Report
and Accounts, please email me at

Correction - PDF format.

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

There's no reason to ask myself the same question.

My position here is that I'm making a stand for
decency and civilised behaviour against the
gratuitous and offensive onslaught of a few
CBers who really ought to know better.

If more stood up for decency, things would improve.
Who was it who quotes, "'For evil to triumph it is only
necessary for good men to do nothing'"?

Oohh! - it is someone by the name of , "Mike Clayton" -
anybody that you know?

I find it strange that you seem to have no dispute with
those who originate the most offensive of personal
insults and yet you criticise those who defend themselves
and stand up for decency.



Mike Clayton wrote:
In message .co
Don't you realise how silly and ridiculous you make yourself
look, by indulging in what are essentially very infantile
abusive tirades in an international forum that is broadcast to
the whole world?


Perhaps you should ask yourself the same question?
--
Mike Clayton
'For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing'
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

Me wrote:
Turnover:0
*** CORRECT ***

Profit:0
*** CORRECT ***

Networth:0
*** WRONG! *** ACTUALLY £40.00 ON 31/3/04

Does this mean British taxpayers are paying for him to spam his tedious
drivel into these newsgroups?

73
Mike G4KFK

Bringing Chippenham into Disrepute
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
My position here is that I'm making a stand for
decency and civilised behaviour against the

And this from the numpty who changed the thread into "bringing Scouting
into disrepute" then x-posted it into a load of scouting newsgroups!

Bringing Chippenham into Disrepute
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
My position here is that I'm making a stand for
decency and civilised behaviour against the

And this from the numpty who changed the thread into "bringing Scouting
into disrepute" then x-posted it into a load of scouting newsgroups!

The infantile and abusive public face of Wood & Douglas
 

There is no mention of any scout troop in what you quote.

Indeed, that you associate your scout troop with the
phrases, "gangrenous degeneration" and "M3/CB Fools'
Licence" is very revealing - no one but you has made
that association.

Every part of the FAQ, where it criticises the M3/CB Fools'
Licensees is as the direct result of encountering them
and their ridiculous behaviour in this NG. Indeed, if you
are responsible for training such licensees, perhaps it
is from you that their anti-social tendencies arise?

Once again, you resort to rather silly and infantile forms
of abuse, "pathetic sociopath" and "bitter and twisted".

Shame on you, Mike Gathergood, you ought to
know better at your age, and your pubic face, which
is also the public face of Wood & Douglas, does
them no favours.

Grow up.

Stupid child.

wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
You are a LIAR.

I have _NEVER belittled any "of the hard work and enthusiasm
shown by various members of" your "scout group"

Really? Which pathetic sociopath wrote, and continues to spam various
newsgroups with, this bitter and twisted little piece of prose then?

"Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme! "

It was you, wasn't it Gareth?

73
Mike G4KFK

FAQ - revised version
 

Certainly seems to describe your own anti-social, infantile and
gratuitously abusive traits over the last few days.

You are to be congratulated for your candidness.

wrote:
wrote:
Really? Which pathetic sociopath wrote, and continues to spam various

Definition of a sociopath, for those who were wondering:
Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV-TR)
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a widely
used manual for diagnosing mental and behavioral disorders (see also:
DSM cautionary statement), defines antisocial personality disorder as a
pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of
others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of
the following:
- failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors
as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
- deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or
conning others for personal profit or pleasure
- impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
- irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical
fights or assaults
reckless disregard for safety of self or others
- consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to
sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
- lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or
rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

73
Mike G4KFK

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

For as long as you are prepared to illustrate so graphically
the difference between a CBer, an M3/CB Fools' Licensee, a
CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham and a _REAL_ Radio
Ham with his gentlemanly traditions, I am prepared to
watch you bemusedly from the sidelines and to chastise
you for your ridiculous outbursts.

It is important that we as Radio Hams make a stand for
civilised behaviour and decency against the vile CBer,
no matter how he might have slipped into our midst.

Don't you realise how silly and ridiculous you make yourself
look, by indulging in what are essentially very infantile
abusive tirades in an international forum that is broadcast to
the whole world?

However, if you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then just carry on as you are with your Childish Broadcasting (CB).

You, coming as you do from a background as a ship's radio
"officer", really ought to know better.
Indeed, it is difficult to see, in the light of your
well-demonstrated infantile disposition, how you could
ever have been the export sales manager for a well-
respected company such as Wood & Douglas.

Shame on you. You should know better. What on Earth would Alan
Wood G4EEE think of the bad publicity you are visiting on
his company?

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.

wrote:
Me wrote:
Turnover:0
*** CORRECT ***

Profit:0
*** CORRECT ***

Networth:0
*** WRONG! *** ACTUALLY £40.00 ON 31/3/04

Does this mean British taxpayers are paying for him to spam his tedious
drivel into these newsgroups?

73
Mike G4KFK

The infantile and abusive public face of Wood & Douglas
 

ROTFL!

73 de Wlat

--

Pot calling Kettle me thinks



Happy Christmas All



DieSea

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

In message .com,
Pierian Spring writes
There's no reason to ask myself the same question.

My position here is that I'm making a stand for
decency and civilised behaviour against the
gratuitous and offensive onslaught of a few
CBers who really ought to know better.

If more stood up for decency, things would improve.
Who was it who quotes, "'For evil to triumph it is only
necessary for good men to do nothing'"?

I hardly think that the changes to the way that newcomers enter the
hobby could be described as evil :-)

Oohh! - it is someone by the name of , "Mike Clayton" -
anybody that you know?


Anyway, in the spirit of the season let me wish you and yours a very
Happy Christmas and a peaceful New Year
--
Mike Clayton
'For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing'
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mike_clayton

The infantile and abusive public face of Wood & Douglas
 

Must have been a divinely-inspired (on the half-chance that
she does exist) typo!

A merry Solstice to you and yours!

Walt Davidson wrote:
On 24 Dec 2005 08:49:32 -0800, "Pierian Spring"
wrote:
Shame on you, Mike Gathergood, you ought to
know better at your age, and your pubic face ...
ROTFL!

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

The only "hobby" around is CB Radio.

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit.

Newcomers to Ham Radio are those who
are naturally interested in technicalia and
who drive themselves forward. Such people
will have no interest in a licence issued
under the gangrenous degeneration that is
the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

To have introduced such a scheme whose
sole purpose is to maintain the profit
levels of a CB (Sorry, "seedy"!) book
publisher was evil indeed.

Mike Clayton wrote:
In message .com,
Pierian Spring writes
My position here is that I'm making a stand for
decency and civilised behaviour against the
gratuitous and offensive onslaught of a few
CBers who really ought to know better.
If more stood up for decency, things would improve.
Who was it who quotes, "'For evil to triumph it is only
necessary for good men to do nothing'"?

I hardly think that the changes to the way that newcomers enter the
hobby could be described as evil :-)

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
For as long as you are prepared to illustrate so graphically
the difference between a CBer, an M3/CB Fools' Licensee, a
CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham and a _REAL_ Radio
Ham with his gentlemanly traditions, I am prepared to
watch you bemusedly from the sidelines and to chastise
you for your ridiculous outbursts.

It is important that we as Radio Hams make a stand for
civilised behaviour and decency against the vile CBer,
no matter how he might have slipped into our midst.

Don't you realise how silly and ridiculous you make yourself
look, by indulging in what are essentially very infantile
abusive tirades in an international forum that is broadcast to
the whole world?
well, an *international* forum, broadcasting to the *whole
world* indeed, a stunning concept!!!.....j

However, if you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then just carry on as you are with your Childish Broadcasting (CB).

You, coming as you do from a background as a ship's radio
"officer", really ought to know better.
Indeed, it is difficult to see, in the light of your
well-demonstrated infantile disposition, how you could
ever have been the export sales manager for a well-
respected company such as Wood & Douglas.

Shame on you. You should know better. What on Earth would Alan
Wood G4EEE think of the bad publicity you are visiting on
his company?

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.

wrote:

Before the (G4) Sad Dim Wit spots that grammatical error,

Bringing Wood & Douglas into Disrepute
 

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you do not wish for there to be a right of reply, then you
would be better served if you do not contribute at all.

I did not say that you do not live up to my "ideal radio amateur";
in fact, I do not even use the term.

To the contrary, from what you have posted recently, you do
seem to be a _REAL_ Radio Ham in (most of) the best
traditions thereto.

A Merry (Belated) Solstice to you, also.
the word is christmas mr backdown........hehe.........j
G4ZWI wrote:
If I am in error, sir, I will stand corrected. I believe, however, most
people following this thread would conclude your post 89 was directed
to me, as I did.
I am sorry if I do not live up to your ideal radio amateur, and wish
you once again,
Merry Christmas.
(Please do not respond to this post, as I have no intention of
following this thread further)
Fred Cooper G4ZWI

The infantile and abusive public face of Wood & Douglas
 

"DieSea" wrote in message
...


ROTFL!

73 de Wlat

--

Pot calling Kettle me thinks

Somehow I think you have missed the point, try reading the article again.

I thought it was funny as well.

Why is it crossposted to so many groups?

Alan




Happy Christmas All



DieSea