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Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 08:47 AM

FAQ - revised version
 
In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817
in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better
into thinking that they are Radio Hams, the weekly (and
revised) FAQ is posted a couple of days early to enable
the parents to take the CB gear back to the shop.....

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One such CB type is the so-called "Not-Ham". Otherwise
known as the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham, this type
had their background in the hobby that is CB Radio and not
in the technical pursuits that lead up to a coveted Ham licence.
Easily recognised by their boasts of the criminal activity of
11 metre SSB operation, one wonders why they don't go back to
the CB Bands if such bands are dearer in their hearts than are the Ham
Bands? No _REAL Radio Hams associate with those who made an
illegal installation of transmitting equipment before being
in possession of an appropriate licence.

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

-----ooooo-----

One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.

6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
of the imagination!

Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme!


[email protected] December 22nd 05 09:10 AM

FAQ - revised version
 

Over-wound Spring wrote:
In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817
in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better
into thinking that they are Radio Hams, the weekly (and
revised) FAQ is posted a couple of days early to enable
the parents to take the CB gear back to the shop.....


Could this possibly have been posted by the man who, just 8 years ago,
was selling his FT101E on the grounds that it was too difficult to tune
up without the manual?

2. FT101E, pristine condition, CW filter. (Purchased Longleat '95, never
used on TX by me 'cos critical tuning-up pages missing from manual!) "
73 de Gareth G4SDW
13 Hardens Close, Chippenham, Wiltshire, SN15 3AA
(01249) 651897


You should get an 817 yourself - no tuning required!


Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 09:42 AM

FAQ - revised version
 
If you wish to be henceforth perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then carry right on with the Childish Broadcasting (CB) such as
you utter below.

You seem to be obsessed with me, you are chanting your
infantile playground tirades at every turn. Brian Reay says that
such obsession is a sign of envy. Have you no life of your own?

All _REAL_ Radio Hams have a number of ongoing projects
simultaneously. Some are held up for lack of components, some
for a lack of time, others for lack of info.
I wouldn't recommend anyone whose background
is in transistorised QRP to tackle the neutralising of a compact
PA stage with 600 VDC on the anodes after replacing the
antenna coupling capacitor unadvisedly, lightly, or wantonly. The
project
was held up awaiting info, and when I needed the space, was
one of a number that I disposed of. ISTR that an R1475 awaiting
restoration
also was disposed of at the same time. The project was underway,
I was fully prepared to have a go, in sharp contrast to the
CBers-Masquerading-As-Radio-Hams of today who buy their
goods from a shop and return them to a shop if needing repair.

You really do seem anxious to score some pathetic and childish
points. You may feel at home starting and then desperately
trying to continue a ****ing-in-the-playground
competition, but that is not my style.

You do yourself, this NG, and Ham Radio in general no service
by discouraging the discussion of what we do and the problems
we encounter along the way if you pick up on minor points out
of context and sneer and chant from the sidelines. How are
we to encourage the novitiate other than by discussing what
we do?

Shame on you.

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.

wrote:
Over-wound Spring wrote:
In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817
in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better
into thinking that they are Radio Hams, the weekly (and
revised) FAQ is posted a couple of days early to enable
the parents to take the CB gear back to the shop.....


Could this possibly have been posted by the man who, just 8 years ago,
was selling his FT101E on the grounds that it was too difficult to tune
up without the manual?

2. FT101E, pristine condition, CW filter. (Purchased Longleat '95, never
used on TX by me 'cos critical tuning-up pages missing from manual!) "


You should get an 817 yourself - no tuning required!



Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 09:56 AM

FAQ - revised version
 
OK - are you a man, or a yellow-bellied coward?

I notice that your own personal details are withheld
in the callbook.

How brave of you to publish someone else's, including
their phone number while you yourself hide shaking
and quivering behind the safety of the playground fence
while you chant your infantile sneers.

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.

wrote:
73 de Gareth G4SDW
13 Hardens Close, Chippenham, Wiltshire, SN15 3AA
(01249) 651897



[email protected] December 22nd 05 09:59 AM

tedious bollocks - revised version
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
You may feel at home starting and then desperately
trying to continue a ****ing-in-the-playground
competition, but that is not my style.


Oh - it seems I owe you an apology?

It must be some other Pierian Spring who "****es" the same tedious
self-righteous drivel into these newsgroups umpteen times a week.


[email protected] December 22nd 05 10:02 AM

FAQ - revised version
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
OK - are you a man, or a yellow-bellied coward?

I notice that your own personal details are withheld
in the callbook.

How brave of you to publish someone else's, including
their phone number while you yourself hide shaking
and quivering behind the safety of the playground fence
while you chant your infantile sneers.


QTHR on the website (www.g4kfk.co.uk) and at QRZ.com

You'll also find Nick G3VCP, whom you accused of being a pirate, is
QTHR at qrz.com

And at least I use my own name, rather than claiming to be the Pierian
Spring of Greek mythology.

"A little learning is a dang'rous thing;
Drink deep or taste not the Pierian Spring"
Alexander Pope

73
Mike G4KFK


Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 10:21 AM

tedious bollocks - revised version
 
If it is your wish to be for ever perceived as a Childish
Broadcaster (CBer), then carry right on with uttering
your obsessive Childish Broadcasting (CB) such as you
do below.

You're not doing yourself any favours with your
infantile tirades, and you really ought to know better.

Shame on you.

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.

wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
You may feel at home starting and then desperately
trying to continue a ****ing-in-the-playground
competition, but that is not my style.

Oh - it seems I owe you an apology?
It must be some other Pierian Spring who "****es" the same tedious
self-righteous drivel into these newsgroups umpteen times a week.



Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 10:36 AM

FAQ - revised version
 
I don't follow web links - if you have something valid
to contribute to a discussion in this NG - possibly
your address and telephone number, then contribute it,
or else be for ever dismissed as a cowardly child.

You really must get out of this habit of yours of
chanting infantile untruths; it does you no favours.
I did not accuse anybody of being a pirate as you
imply below.

As to using one's own name, I used to until my
family was subject to malicious and threatening
correspondence coming from Stephen G Bryan G0SGB.
I advise anybody to remain anonymous as there are
malicious and obsessive loonies to be found in this NG
and in this thread to this day.

You also seem to not understand the tradition
of using a pseudonym, in my case for the reason
discussed above - I do not claim to be a font of any sort;
I am merely using a pseudonym.

Once again, you should give serious consideration to
presenting to this NG a persona other than the
insult-sneering infant that you continue to do below.

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.

wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
OK - are you a man, or a yellow-bellied coward?
I notice that your own personal details are withheld
in the callbook.
How brave of you to publish someone else's, including
their phone number while you yourself hide shaking
and quivering behind the safety of the playground fence
while you chant your infantile sneers.

QTHR on the website (
www.g4kfk.co.uk) and at QRZ.com
You'll also find Nick G3VCP, whom you accused of being a pirate, is
QTHR at qrz.com
And at least I use my own name, rather than claiming to be the Pierian
Spring of Greek mythology.
"A little learning is a dang'rous thing;
Drink deep or taste not the Pierian Spring"
Alexander Pope



[email protected] December 22nd 05 10:48 AM

FAQ - revised version
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
... there are malicious and obsessive loonies to be found in this NG


You're right about one thing!


[email protected] December 22nd 05 10:48 AM

FAQ - revised version
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
... there are malicious and obsessive loonies to be found in this NG


You're right about one thing!


Spike December 22nd 05 11:30 AM

FAQ - revised version
 

wrote:


Over-wound Spring wrote:

In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817
in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better
into thinking that they are Radio Hams, the weekly (and
revised) FAQ is posted a couple of days early to enable
the parents to take the CB gear back to the shop.....


You should get an 817 yourself - no tuning required!


It's interesting to note that the author makes much of the repair
issue in his so-called 'FAQ', where he says:

"Usually such people are a variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they
buy their radios off the shelf and send them back to be repaired"

and also goes on to say, referring to his vision of 'radio hams'
(whatever they are):

"They do this with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment"

but elsewhere said

"I wouldn't recommend anyone whose background is in transistorised QRP
to tackle the neutralising of a compact PA stage with 600 VDC on the
anodes after replacing the antenna coupling capacitor "

Is there is a conflict here between the so-called 'FAQ' as laid down,
and its practice as suggested by its own adherent? Under what
circumstances should others 'repair with gusto' but not consider
adjustments to a valve PA? All PAs? Ones with 12V on the anode? What
are the limitations here? Is there a safety issue here? Where does one
go to get 'a suitable background'? The so-called 'FAQ' should make
things clear, not have the issues clouded by postings elsewhere.

But it doesn't stop here. Note that no licence is necessary for the
repair of radios, as anyone who wishes can repair them. Neither does
the possession of an Amateur Licence bestow a qualification for this
activity; it is not specifically mentioned.

But further to the repair issue; the so-called 'FAQ', as noted above,
states

"Usually such people are a variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they
buy their radios off the shelf and send them back to be repaired"

but it is apparently a sanctioned activity to have a non-functioning
radio, and sell it off in that state, the 'redeeming' factors being
that the owner was prepared to repair it, and was intending to repair
it; the fact that he did not do so apparently being irrelevant.

So, under this so-called 'FAQ', anyone whose radio ceased to function,
but who thought they might have a go at repairing it, and indeed
intended to repair it, but in the end didn't for whatever reason ("I
can't find a screwdriver to get the lid off") would not have negated
their 'qualification' for inclusion in the strange but very limited
sect proposed by the so-called 'FAQ'! A mere 'statement of intent',
perhaps made years later, will be all that is required to save their
bacon!

It would seem that this issue of 'repair' needs to be clarified within
the so-called 'FAQ' itself, rather than by passing defensive remarks
in other utterances; and to do this as a matter of urgency as there
might be safety issues for anyone so encouraged to follow it. Also,
it makes the so-called 'FAQ' difficult to follow for its adherents -
should there be any - in much the same way that over the years
'operating' has been at various times both held high and then damned.

It would seem that this so-called 'FAQ' is itself in need of serious
repair; let us see if the author can tackle that, or whether he merely
intends to tackle it but then abandon it in favour of some activity
that actually lies within his ambit. It is suggested that for a number
of reasons, some possibly legal in scope, he does not republish it
until the problems inherent in it are satisfactorily dealt with,
otherwise serious issues might arise by any who follow it.


from
Aero Spike

Brian Reay December 22nd 05 12:32 PM

FAQ - revised version
 

"Spike" wrote in message
...

"I wouldn't recommend anyone whose background is in transistorised QRP
to tackle the neutralising of a compact PA stage with 600 VDC on the
anodes after replacing the antenna coupling capacitor "

Is there is a conflict here between the so-called 'FAQ' as laid down,
and its practice as suggested by its own adherent? Under what
circumstances should others 'repair with gusto' but not consider
adjustments to a valve PA? All PAs? Ones with 12V on the anode? What
are the limitations here? Is there a safety issue here? Where does one
go to get 'a suitable background'? The so-called 'FAQ' should make
things clear, not have the issues clouded by postings elsewhere.


Plus, of course, such a neutralisation isn't that difficult a task- being a
normal process after replacing a valve. I've done a couple of FT101's over
the years and I don't recall the PA being that compact.

Either way, assuming the technician involved had even a modicum of
experience in electronics, it is the sort of job I'd expect them to be able
to tackle.

73
Brian







Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 01:10 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
However as it's Christmas, please feel free to join me at my run down QTH
for a spot of meths!

Pierian Spring wrote:
I don't follow web links - if you have something valid
to contribute to a discussion in this NG - possibly
your address and telephone number, then contribute it,
or else be for ever dismissed as a cowardly child.




[email protected] December 22nd 05 01:14 PM

FAQ - revised version
 

Spike wrote:
It would seem that this so-called 'FAQ' is itself in need of serious
repair; let us see if the author can tackle that, or whether he merely
intends to tackle it but then abandon it in favour of some activity
that actually lies within his ambit. It is suggested that for a number
of reasons, some possibly legal in scope, he does not republish it
until the problems inherent in it are satisfactorily dealt with,
otherwise serious issues might arise by any who follow it.


But why would he allow "nugatories" (his word) such as truth and
common-sense to spoil his vision of amateur radio? A vision which,
according to this posting from 1999, included an HND-level exam!

Gareth Alun Evans wrote in message
...
Perhaps the answer would be to widen the terms
of the CB license, to include what are now the 2m,
6m, 10m and 20m amateur bands, using only
type-approved eqpt (which should suit the quasi-
CB activities of DX, WAB and contests, and the
current behavioural habits of the denizens of those
bands); and then to bring in a much higher
educational requirement (say, 'A' level maths
and electronics) as a pre-requisite for an RAE
at about the HND level. It cannot be ignored
that a good mathematical grounding is essential for
engineering design. This would also provide a
break-time to ease the Morse requirement.
Needless to say, all current Radio Hams (myself
included) would get only the expanded CB, and
would have to sit the new exams. I cannot see
that there would be any objection to this because
if you consider yourself to competent to design and
construct radios, then you'd pass the exam with
flying colours, wouldn't you?
A Radio Ham licence would then, indeed, be
a prized privilege


One wonders what would be the point? If 136kHz, 1.8, 3.5, 5, 7, 10, 18,
21 and 24MHz were only available to qualified engineers, what would
they use them for? What could they learn about propagation on these
bands that we don't already know? And, in a world where
mission-critical long-distance comms has already moved to fibre and
satellite, to what use would any new knowledge be put?

Surely it's better to promote the social side of the hobby (and yes
Gareth, it IS a hobby) to at least the same extent as the technical
side, and the only way to do this is for entry into the hobby to remain
"competitive" with other pastimes. The RSGB have shown that they can do
this efficiently.

73 and Happy CHRISTmas
Mike G4KFK
www.g4kfk.co.uk


huLLy December 22nd 05 01:20 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Pierian Spring wrote:

One such CB type is the so-called "Not-Ham". Otherwise
known as the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham, this type
had their background in the hobby that is CB Radio and not
in the technical pursuits that lead up to a coveted Ham licence.
Easily recognised by their boasts of the criminal activity of
11 metre SSB operation, one wonders why they don't go back to
the CB Bands if such bands are dearer in their hearts than are the Ham
Bands? No _REAL Radio Hams associate with those who made an
illegal installation of transmitting equipment before being
in possession of an appropriate licence.


Cool! I'm in the G4SDW hall of flame!
--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925



Spike December 22nd 05 01:38 PM

FAQ - revised version
 

wrote:


Spike wrote:

It would seem that this so-called 'FAQ' is itself in need of serious
repair; let us see if the author can tackle that, or whether he merely
intends to tackle it but then abandon it in favour of some activity
that actually lies within his ambit. It is suggested that for a number
of reasons, some possibly legal in scope, he does not republish it
until the problems inherent in it are satisfactorily dealt with,
otherwise serious issues might arise by any who follow it.


But why would he allow "nugatories" (his word) such as truth and
common-sense to spoil his vision of amateur radio? A vision which,
according to this posting from 1999, included an HND-level exam!


Presumably this is the level of attainment that he himself reached;
had he set it higher, he would have excluded himself!

But it is the so-called 'FAQ' that raises the greatest concern, for he
has now started to bound it with other advice - not written within the
so-called FAQ, but elsewhere. If this was done as part of a
professional's duties, it would be regarded as, well, unprofessional;
but in the context of encouraging newcomers, it is a dangerous and
disgraceful practice.

Should this so-called FAQ should be ignored by all, and a disclaimer
issued by the author? Perhaps an abuse report might be in order if
this not be done in the very near future.

from
Aero Spike

W8LNA December 22nd 05 01:50 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Pierian Spring wrote:
In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817
in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better
into thinking that they are Radio Hams,


I got news for ya chappie, the war's over, you can get those parts for
your head now.

Yeah, yeah, I know, 'stupid boy.'

You need some new material, and maybe some vitamin C tabs, ya been
suckin' limes* so long you're sour completely through.

*- Apologies to all the British possibly offended by this remark with
the exception of G4SDW, who it was intended to offend.

Brian Reay December 22nd 05 02:47 PM

FAQ - revised version
 

"Spike" wrote in message
...
but elsewhere. If this was done as part of a
professional's duties, it would be regarded as, well, unprofessional;
but in the context of encouraging newcomers, it is a dangerous and
disgraceful practice.


Certainly most professions expect the "established" to encourage and support
newcomers.
Experienced engineers tend to have newcomers as assistants, qualified
teachers have PGCE students to mentor and advise, new police officers are
put with experienced officers, junior Doctors are assign to a registrar,
etc., etc., etc.

Such a system only fails if the "established" person isn't so "established"
as maybe they should be.

73

Brian





DrBoris December 22nd 05 03:09 PM

FAQ - revised version
 

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
crap snipped

I wouldn't recommend anyone whose background

is in transistorised QRP to tackle the neutralising of a compact
PA stage with 600 VDC on the anodes after replacing the
antenna coupling capacitor unadvisedly, lightly, or wantonly.



So how are people supposed to learn/progress if they are not
going to tackle something they have no previous experience of?
Is that not the whole point of Ham Radio, as you seem to continually
remind us of in your FAQ?




[email protected] December 22nd 05 03:24 PM

FAQ - revised version
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
However as it's Christmas, please feel free to join me at my run down QTH
for a spot of meths!


That's a very kind offer and, as it happens, we will be visiting
friends in Canal Road over the hols, so I might well take you up on the
offer.

It it BYOB? Should I bring my own anti-freeze?

Merry CHRISTmas
Mike G4KFK
www.g4kfk.co.uk


Me December 22nd 05 04:17 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Pierian Spring wrote:
[snip]
I advise anybody to remain anonymous


As in getting yourself arrested, and your name and picture published in
your local newspaper..thus bringing amateur radio into disrepute, is
that what you version of anonymous is ?

http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk.../10/91923.html

[email protected] December 22nd 05 04:28 PM

FAQ - revised version
 

Me wrote:
As in getting yourself arrested, and your name and picture published in
your local newspaper..thus bringing amateur radio into disrepute, is
that what you version of anonymous is ?


Maybe a clean CRB check should be a pre-requisite for an amateur radio
licence?

73
Mike G4KFK


Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 04:32 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
I see that some cowardly child has hidden behind an
anonymising server to forge an abusive posting that did not come from
me.

What more proof do we need that the dumbing down that
has come in from, amongst other things, the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence, has
done irreparable harm to the society of Radio Hams?

In the light of the forged posting below, it is more and more
important that _ALL_ self-respecting _REAL_ Radio Hams
resign forthwith from the RSCB, if only to show support
for decency and for civilised behaviour in Radio Hammery.

Pierian Spring wrote:
However as it's Christmas, please feel free to join me at my run down QTH
for a spot of meths!

Pierian Spring wrote:
I don't follow web links - if you have something valid
to contribute to a discussion in this NG - possibly
your address and telephone number, then contribute it,
or else be for ever dismissed as a cowardly child.



Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 04:40 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
If it was your intention to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster
(CBer),
and deliberately setting out to cause offence is most certainly
childish, then continue with your Childish Broadcasting (CB) such
as you use below.

Grow up, Galen Watts!

Stupid child.

W8LNA wrote:
I got news for ya chappie, the war's over, you can get those parts for
your head now.
Yeah, yeah, I know, 'stupid boy.'
You need some new material, and maybe some vitamin C tabs, ya been
suckin' limes* so long you're sour completely through.
*- Apologies to all the British possibly offended by this remark with
the exception of G4SDW, who it was intended to offend.



Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 04:45 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
At no time have I indicated that I wasn't prepared to
tackle something of which I had no experience. I was
prepared to tackle it, and was awaiting the appropriate
instructions. How many of those who boast of having
neutralised the PA stage of an FT101 did so without
the manufacturer's instructions thereto, and if they
lacked the instructions, how did they know that their
attempts to so neutralise were successful?

You really do seem desperate to score some
infantile point, Andy GilFillan!

DrBoris wrote:
"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
oups.com...
crap snipped
I wouldn't recommend anyone whose background

is in transistorised QRP to tackle the neutralising of a compact
PA stage with 600 VDC on the anodes after replacing the
antenna coupling capacitor unadvisedly, lightly, or wantonly.

So how are people supposed to learn/progress if they are not
going to tackle something they have no previous experience of?
Is that not the whole point of Ham Radio, as you seem to continually
remind us of in your FAQ?



Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 04:47 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
If it is your wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then just carry right on with your Childish Broadcasting (CB)
such as you utter below.

You do yourslef no favours by your continual use of
gratuitous and abusive outbursts.

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.

wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
However as it's Christmas, please feel free to join me at my run down QTH
for a spot of meths!

That's a very kind offer and, as it happens, we will be visiting
friends in Canal Road over the hols, so I might well take you up on the
offer.
It it BYOB? Should I bring my own anti-freeze?
Merry CHRISTmas
Mike G4KFK
www.g4kfk.co.uk


Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 04:57 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Firstly, why not identify yourself, rather than hiding like the
infantile coward that you undoubtedly are behind an
anonymising server? (Talking of infantile anonymous
cowards, have you ever thought about joining the
plods yourself?)

Secondly, if anyone is arrested as the result of a malicious
and perjurous complaint, then that arrest, and any corresponding
bringing of Ham Radio into disrepute, is a reflection on the
criminal making the complaint, in this case, Brian Reay, G8OSN/M3OSN,
and not on his unfortunate victim.

Brian Reay subjected me to a vicious, malicious and distressing
campaign of harassment over a number of years when he
repeatedly accused me of sheep-shagging, said that my
wife was a sheep in the bed next to me, and accused
me of drinking methylated spirit. I did not respond to him
other than to chastise him for his grossly offensive behaviour.

When it became apparent that Brian Reay was a schoolteacher,
and had been conducting his sexually deviant campaign when
he was under training at a girls's school in Dartford, Kent,
I responded by suggesting that such a campaign meant that
he was a danger to children. Brian Reay's infantile psyche
could not deal with having the tables turned on him, and
he made a perjurous and malicious complaint to the plods
suggesting that it was I who was harassing him, rather than
the other way about. Brian Reay is a w*nkmason and it seems that
his fellow w*nkmasons in the plods will not take action against him
for wasting plod time in the way that he did.

Me wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
[snip]
I advise anybody to remain anonymous


As in getting yourself arrested, and your name and picture published in
your local newspaper..thus bringing amateur radio into disrepute, is
that what you version of anonymous is ?

http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk.../10/91923.html



W8LNA December 22nd 05 04:59 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Pierian Spring wrote:
If it was your intention to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster
(CBer),
and deliberately setting out to cause offence is most certainly
childish, then continue with your Childish Broadcasting (CB) such
as you use below.

Grow up, Galen Watts!


Bullseye!

Gee, he can use a call sign lookup page, I'm really, really scared!

Maybe I should file a report with the Melksham police.

I'd bet they know who you are, Springy Ol' boy.

What's more childish, a casual insult across the internet or actually
going far enough to get arrested for intimidation across the internet?

I suspect the latter.


W8LNA
Galen Watts
HC 63 Box 309
Arbovale, WV 24915-9741

Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 05:07 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
If anyone is arrested as the result of a malicious
and perjurous complaint, then that arrest, and any corresponding
bringing of Ham Radio into disrepute, is a reflection on the
criminal making the complaint, in this case, Brian Reay, G8OSN/M3OSN,
and not on his unfortunate victim.

Brian Reay subjected me to a vicious, malicious and distressing
campaign of harassment over a number of years when he
repeatedly accused me of sheep-shagging, said that my
wife was a sheep in the bed next to me, and accused
me of drinking methylated spirit. I did not respond to him
other than to chastise him for his grossly offensive behaviour.

When it became apparent that Brian Reay was a schoolteacher,
and had been conducting his sexually deviant campaign when
he was under training at a girls's school in Dartford, Kent,
I responded by suggesting that such a campaign meant that
he was a danger to children. Brian Reay's infantile psyche
could not deal with having the tables turned on him, and
he made a perjurous and malicious complaint to the plods
suggesting that it was I who was harassing him, rather than
the other way about. Brian Reay is a w*nkmason and it seems that
his fellow w*nkmasons in the plods will not take action against him
for wasting plod time in the way that he did.

If it was your intention to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster
(CBer), and deliberately setting out to cause offence is most
certainly childish, then continue with your Childish Broadcasting
(CB) such as you use below.

Grow up, Galen Watts!

Stupid child.

W8LNA wrote:
Bullseye!
Gee, he can use a call sign lookup page, I'm really, really scared!
Maybe I should file a report with the Melksham police.
I'd bet they know who you are, Springy Ol' boy.
What's more childish, a casual insult across the internet or actually
going far enough to get arrested for intimidation across the internet?
I suspect the latter.



[email protected] December 22nd 05 05:20 PM

FAQ - revised version
 

Pierian Spring wrote:
If it is your wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then just carry right on with your Childish Broadcasting (CB)
such as you utter below.

You do yourslef no favours by your continual use of
gratuitous and abusive outbursts.

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.


Go on then - you drink that meths all by yourself. See if I care.

That's the last time I accept an invitation for a boys night out with
you!

73
Mike G4KFK


Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 05:25 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
If you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then just carry on with your Childish Broadcasting (CB)
such as you use below.

You do yourself no favours by your continual use of
gratuitous and abusive outbursts.

You bemuse those of us who observe your behaviour.

Grow up, Mike Gathergood!

Stupid boy.


wrote:
Go on then - you drink that meths all by yourself. See if I care.
That's the last time I accept an invitation for a boys night out with
you!



Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 05:31 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Typo (in the third word as well!)

For "their", read "there".

Pierian Spring wrote:
In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817
in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better
into thinking that they are Radio Hams, the weekly (and
revised) FAQ is posted a couple of days early to enable
the parents to take the CB gear back to the shop.....

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One such CB type is the so-called "Not-Ham". Otherwise
known as the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham, this type
had their background in the hobby that is CB Radio and not
in the technical pursuits that lead up to a coveted Ham licence.
Easily recognised by their boasts of the criminal activity of
11 metre SSB operation, one wonders why they don't go back to
the CB Bands if such bands are dearer in their hearts than are the Ham
Bands? No _REAL Radio Hams associate with those who made an
illegal installation of transmitting equipment before being
in possession of an appropriate licence.

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

-----ooooo-----

One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.

6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
of the imagination!

Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme!



Ed Unsworth December 22nd 05 05:54 PM

FAQ - revised version
 

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
ups.com...
If anyone is arrested as the result of a malicious
and perjurous complaint,

Pray tell, has there been a prosecution, or conviction against Mr Reay for
the above "alleged" malicious and perjurous complaints, if not your
allegations must be groundless.

Brian Reay is a we*nkmason

Right all is now clear...I take it you have never been invited to join, yet
another goal you have failed to achieve.



W8LNA December 22nd 05 06:12 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Pierian Spring wrote:

Brian Reay subjected me to a vicious, malicious and distressing
campaign of harassment...


Considering your behavior here I sincerely doubt your account of Mr.
Reay's actions, especially when you refer to the constabulary as 'the
plods,' a strong indication of your own denial of reality. I suspect
(there's a word you're used to, eh?) the police reviewed transcripts of
your exchanges with Mr. Reay and apparently determined you were the
threat, as you were the party taken in to custody.

Ta ta,
W8LNA, 'Stupid Child'

Boaz December 22nd 05 06:57 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:

However as it's Christmas, please feel free to join me at my run down QTH
for a spot of meths!



That's a very kind offer and, as it happens, we will be visiting
friends in Canal Road over the hols, so I might well take you up on the
offer.

It it BYOB? Should I bring my own anti-freeze?

Merry CHRISTmas
Mike G4KFK
www.g4kfk.co.uk


In case anyone has trouble finding his qth (you might want to deliver

christmas cards) here is a map

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...pcode=SN15+3AA

The fact that Wood Lane Police Station is only just down the road is
just coincidental (I think)

Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 07:34 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
The plods did not check out any transcripts of mine, and took
Brian Reay at his word. I rapidly produced in defence a pile
6 inches thick of Brian Reay's infantile and grossly offensive
remarks to me and the plods had to back down. I had no
"exchanges" with Reay - I merely responded in defence
against him to chasitise him for his gratuitous offensive
onslaughts - not dissimilar from your own.

The trial of the plod Richard Fuller for assault is scheduled
to take place on the 8th February at Chippenham Magistrates'
Court.

My behaviour here has always been in support of the
technical pursuit that is _REAL Ham Radio and trying
to maintain standards of decency in response to the
outbursts of rather silly and infantile people such as
yourself.

Indeed, in respect of your rather silly and infantile behaviour,
if you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster (CBer)
then just carry on with the Childish Broadcasting (CB) that
you utter below.

W8LNA wrote:
Pierian Spring wrote:
Brian Reay subjected me to a vicious, malicious and distressing
campaign of harassment...

Considering your behavior here I sincerely doubt your account of Mr.
Reay's actions, especially when you refer to the constabulary as 'the
plods,' a strong indication of your own denial of reality. I suspect
(there's a word you're used to, eh?) the police reviewed transcripts of
your exchanges with Mr. Reay and apparently determined you were the
threat, as you were the party taken in to custody.

Ta ta,
W8LNA, 'Stupid Child'



huLLy December 22nd 05 07:45 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Pierian Spring wrote:

Brian Reay subjected me to a vicious, malicious and distressing
campaign of harassment over a number of years when he
repeatedly accused me of sheep-shagging, said that my
wife was a sheep in the bed next to me, and accused
me of drinking methylated spirit. I did not respond to him
other than to chastise him for his grossly offensive behaviour.


No, Gareth.

You are the instigator against Brian. YOU are the guilty man. YOU are the
harrassing stalker. Unfortunately, you are too mentally unstable to ever see
that.
How your wife puts up with you I shall never know. Maybe she's locked in a
trunk in the attic or mummified in a rocking chair?

--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925



W8LNA December 22nd 05 07:59 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Pierian Spring wrote:
....
if you wish to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster...


Frankly I don't care how you perceive me.

You, on the other hand, seem to be perceived by the others on this group
as just that you decry, childish.

My behaviour here has always been in support of the
technical pursuit that is _REAL Ham Radio and trying
to maintain standards of decency...


Whose standards? Yours? Do those 'standards' involve assisting
newcomers, or do you just call them 'childish' and gloat from your
soiled, ivory tower?

Oh for pity's sake.

It seems everyone here knows who you are, where you live etc. So why
can't you post under your own name and call sign, instead of some
fantastically pompous delusion that you're representative of some font
of wisdom?

A font of pomposity, yes. Wisdom and knowledge? I'd laugh if you
weren't so incredibly pitiful.

Go build something, follow your own FAQ,
W8LNA



Pierian Spring December 22nd 05 08:06 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
There's no denial of reality in following the example
set by the Oddity Of Ploddity that is the We'll ****e
(All Over You) Constabulary....

At 16:45 on the 3rd July 2000, Bobby Young, an Acting
Inspector screamed at me, "ANY OLD PLOD WILL NOT DO!".
(Perhaps it is no wonder the childish disposition of the
common plod when their leaders behave so badly)

In the evening of 7th March this year, David Hunt W1361
referred to the "common plod".

So.....it seems to me that if it is acceptable for the plods
to use the word, "plod" when discussing the plods with
members of the public, then it is acceptable for members
of the public to use the word, "plod" when discussing the plods,
either with the plods, or with people who are not plods.

W8LNA wrote:
... especially when you refer to the constabulary as 'the
plods,' a strong indication of your own denial of reality.



Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI December 22nd 05 08:13 PM

FAQ - revised version
 
Pierian Spring of verbal diarrhoea wrote:
At 16:45 on the 3rd July 2000, Bobby Young, an Acting
Inspector screamed at me, "ANY OLD PLOD WILL NOT DO!".
(Perhaps it is no wonder the childish disposition of the
common plod when their leaders behave so badly)

OK Beanie, don't keep us in suspense, what caused him to scream that at
you, and why did you note the exact date and time?
....(_!_)...


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