wrote:


Spike wrote:

It would seem that this so-called 'FAQ' is itself in need of serious
repair; let us see if the author can tackle that, or whether he merely
intends to tackle it but then abandon it in favour of some activity
that actually lies within his ambit. It is suggested that for a number
of reasons, some possibly legal in scope, he does not republish it
until the problems inherent in it are satisfactorily dealt with,
otherwise serious issues might arise by any who follow it.

But why would he allow "nugatories" (his word) such as truth and
common-sense to spoil his vision of amateur radio? A vision which,
according to this posting from 1999, included an HND-level exam!

Presumably this is the level of attainment that he himself reached;
had he set it higher, he would have excluded himself!

But it is the so-called 'FAQ' that raises the greatest concern, for he
has now started to bound it with other advice - not written within the
so-called FAQ, but elsewhere. If this was done as part of a
professional's duties, it would be regarded as, well, unprofessional;
but in the context of encouraging newcomers, it is a dangerous and
disgraceful practice.

Should this so-called FAQ should be ignored by all, and a disclaimer
issued by the author? Perhaps an abuse report might be in order if
this not be done in the very near future.

from
Aero Spike

"Spike" wrote in message
...
but elsewhere. If this was done as part of a
professional's duties, it would be regarded as, well, unprofessional;
but in the context of encouraging newcomers, it is a dangerous and
disgraceful practice.

Certainly most professions expect the "established" to encourage and support
newcomers.
Experienced engineers tend to have newcomers as assistants, qualified
teachers have PGCE students to mentor and advise, new police officers are
put with experienced officers, junior Doctors are assign to a registrar,
etc., etc., etc.

Such a system only fails if the "established" person isn't so "established"
as maybe they should be.

73

Brian

Pierian Spring wrote:

One such CB type is the so-called "Not-Ham". Otherwise
known as the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham, this type
had their background in the hobby that is CB Radio and not
in the technical pursuits that lead up to a coveted Ham licence.
Easily recognised by their boasts of the criminal activity of
11 metre SSB operation, one wonders why they don't go back to
the CB Bands if such bands are dearer in their hearts than are the Ham
Bands? No _REAL Radio Hams associate with those who made an
illegal installation of transmitting equipment before being
in possession of an appropriate licence.


Cool! I'm in the G4SDW hall of flame!
--
huLLy
Mobile phone 07976 123278
ICQ 136-987-925

Pierian Spring wrote:
In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817
in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better
into thinking that they are Radio Hams,

I got news for ya chappie, the war's over, you can get those parts for
your head now.

Yeah, yeah, I know, 'stupid boy.'

You need some new material, and maybe some vitamin C tabs, ya been
suckin' limes* so long you're sour completely through.

*- Apologies to all the British possibly offended by this remark with
the exception of G4SDW, who it was intended to offend.

If it was your intention to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster
(CBer),
and deliberately setting out to cause offence is most certainly
childish, then continue with your Childish Broadcasting (CB) such
as you use below.

Grow up, Galen Watts!

Stupid child.

W8LNA wrote:
I got news for ya chappie, the war's over, you can get those parts for
your head now.
Yeah, yeah, I know, 'stupid boy.'
You need some new material, and maybe some vitamin C tabs, ya been
suckin' limes* so long you're sour completely through.
*- Apologies to all the British possibly offended by this remark with
the exception of G4SDW, who it was intended to offend.

Pierian Spring wrote:
If it was your intention to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster
(CBer),
and deliberately setting out to cause offence is most certainly
childish, then continue with your Childish Broadcasting (CB) such
as you use below.

Grow up, Galen Watts!

Bullseye!

Gee, he can use a call sign lookup page, I'm really, really scared!

Maybe I should file a report with the Melksham police.

I'd bet they know who you are, Springy Ol' boy.

What's more childish, a casual insult across the internet or actually
going far enough to get arrested for intimidation across the internet?

I suspect the latter.


W8LNA
Galen Watts
HC 63 Box 309
Arbovale, WV 24915-9741

If anyone is arrested as the result of a malicious
and perjurous complaint, then that arrest, and any corresponding
bringing of Ham Radio into disrepute, is a reflection on the
criminal making the complaint, in this case, Brian Reay, G8OSN/M3OSN,
and not on his unfortunate victim.

Brian Reay subjected me to a vicious, malicious and distressing
campaign of harassment over a number of years when he
repeatedly accused me of sheep-shagging, said that my
wife was a sheep in the bed next to me, and accused
me of drinking methylated spirit. I did not respond to him
other than to chastise him for his grossly offensive behaviour.

When it became apparent that Brian Reay was a schoolteacher,
and had been conducting his sexually deviant campaign when
he was under training at a girls's school in Dartford, Kent,
I responded by suggesting that such a campaign meant that
he was a danger to children. Brian Reay's infantile psyche
could not deal with having the tables turned on him, and
he made a perjurous and malicious complaint to the plods
suggesting that it was I who was harassing him, rather than
the other way about. Brian Reay is a w*nkmason and it seems that
his fellow w*nkmasons in the plods will not take action against him
for wasting plod time in the way that he did.

If it was your intention to be perceived as a Childish Broadcaster
(CBer), and deliberately setting out to cause offence is most
certainly childish, then continue with your Childish Broadcasting
(CB) such as you use below.

Grow up, Galen Watts!

Stupid child.

W8LNA wrote:
Bullseye!
Gee, he can use a call sign lookup page, I'm really, really scared!
Maybe I should file a report with the Melksham police.
I'd bet they know who you are, Springy Ol' boy.
What's more childish, a casual insult across the internet or actually
going far enough to get arrested for intimidation across the internet?
I suspect the latter.

"Pierian Spring" wrote in message
ups.com...
If anyone is arrested as the result of a malicious
and perjurous complaint,
Pray tell, has there been a prosecution, or conviction against Mr Reay for
the above "alleged" malicious and perjurous complaints, if not your
allegations must be groundless.

Brian Reay is a we*nkmason
Right all is now clear...I take it you have never been invited to join, yet
another goal you have failed to achieve.

Pierian Spring wrote:

Brian Reay subjected me to a vicious, malicious and distressing
campaign of harassment...

Considering your behavior here I sincerely doubt your account of Mr.
Reay's actions, especially when you refer to the constabulary as 'the
plods,' a strong indication of your own denial of reality. I suspect
(there's a word you're used to, eh?) the police reviewed transcripts of
your exchanges with Mr. Reay and apparently determined you were the
threat, as you were the party taken in to custody.

Ta ta,
W8LNA, 'Stupid Child'

Typo (in the third word as well!)

For "their", read "there".

Pierian Spring wrote:
In case their are those who get a CB-type rig such as the 817
in their stockings and are misled by those-who-ought-to-know-better
into thinking that they are Radio Hams, the weekly (and
revised) FAQ is posted a couple of days early to enable
the parents to take the CB gear back to the shop.....

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

-----ooooo-----

One such CB type is the so-called "Not-Ham". Otherwise
known as the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham, this type
had their background in the hobby that is CB Radio and not
in the technical pursuits that lead up to a coveted Ham licence.
Easily recognised by their boasts of the criminal activity of
11 metre SSB operation, one wonders why they don't go back to
the CB Bands if such bands are dearer in their hearts than are the Ham
Bands? No _REAL Radio Hams associate with those who made an
illegal installation of transmitting equipment before being
in possession of an appropriate licence.

-----ooooo-----

One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.

A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
a Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind. A sure sign of
a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds, or has ever held, a licence
issued under the gangrenous degeneration that is the
M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme.

-----ooooo-----

One group of people who claim to be of the standard of
Radio Hams but who are in reality nothing more than an
apology for the failure of a CBer are those class B
licensees who falsely proclaimed that they were against
the use of a Morse Test to control access to the HF
bands, until, that is, a test was introduced at their
intellectual level, the intellectual level of 6-year-olds.

6 year-olds simply lack the mathematical tool kit to
enable them to handle even the simplest algebraic manipulation
for Ohm's Law and thus, the disgraceful Class Ber's in
the aforementioned category are not Radio Hams by any stretch
of the imagination!

Remember - A sure sign of a CB Radio hobbyist is if he holds,
or has ever held, a licence issued under the gangrenous
degeneration that is the M3/CB Fools' Licence scheme!