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[email protected] January 31st 06 09:13 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
Hi OM's

I want to build an distribution amplifier for video using a MAX 4137.
Maxim advises to use stripline for the in- and output.
Can someone tell me what dimensions I should use for the stripline?
(@ 75 Ohm, 350 MHz max, standard fibreglass pcb)

Thanks in advance.

73, Wim Smeets
PE1PME

Joel Kolstad February 1st 06 04:08 AM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
wrote in message
ll.nl...
I want to build an distribution amplifier for video using a MAX 4137.
Maxim advises to use stripline for the in- and output.
Can someone tell me what dimensions I should use for the stripline?
(@ 75 Ohm, 350 MHz max, standard fibreglass pcb)


Only if you tell us your board stackup dimensions.

Various freeware programs such as TxLine
(http://www.taconic-add.com/en--downloads.php) can compute these dimensions
for you quite easily.


Thanks in advance.

73, Wim Smeets
PE1PME




Saandy , 4Z5KS February 1st 06 10:41 AM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
1.2mm on G10 , 1,6mm thick glass epoxi board will give you a Z0 of 75
ohms from DC to daylight.
Saandy 4Z5KS


[email protected] February 1st 06 04:33 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
Thanks a lot Saandy

Wim pe1pme

RST Engineering February 1st 06 05:59 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
Not so, Saandy. He said STRIPLINE, not microstrip. Now he may not know the
difference, but that is an incorrect value for stripline.

WHich is it, microstrip (open face) or stripline (sandwich)?

Jim



"Saandy , 4Z5KS" wrote in message
ups.com...
1.2mm on G10 , 1,6mm thick glass epoxi board will give you a Z0 of 75
ohms from DC to daylight.
Saandy 4Z5KS




[email protected] February 1st 06 10:24 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
what's the difference?
Is "open face"on a singlesided pcb and "sandwich" on a doublesided pcb?
I use a doublesided pcb with one side as a groundplane.

tnx, Wim

Saandy , 4Z5KS February 2nd 06 11:13 AM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
forgive him, not me would you care to hang a mosquito on a piece of
strip line. It's quite clear he's referring to a microstrip circuit.
which one of us is using strip lines, except in power amplifiers.


Saandy , 4Z5KS February 2nd 06 11:14 AM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
i can send you a small gem of a program, very fit for amateur use. if
your interested, write me at the email directly.
Saandy 4Z5KS


Harold E. Johnson February 2nd 06 11:47 AM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 

"Saandy , 4Z5KS" wrote in message
ups.com...
i can send you a small gem of a program, very fit for amateur use. if
your interested, write me at the email directly.
Saandy 4Z5KS


Or download "AppCad" free from Hewlett Packard. It does both microstrip and
stripline and as they say on Madison Avenue, "So much more".

W4ZCB




RST Engineering February 2nd 06 04:38 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
You wanna try that again in English?

Jim


"Saandy , 4Z5KS" wrote in message
oups.com...
forgive him, not me would you care to hang a mosquito on a piece of
strip line. It's quite clear he's referring to a microstrip circuit.
which one of us is using strip lines, except in power amplifiers.




RST Engineering February 2nd 06 04:41 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
No. Microstrip is the transmission line on one side of a double-sided PCB
and the ground plane on the other side. Stripline is with TWO PCBs with the
transmission line sandwiched on one of the boards and ground planes on BOTH
the outside layers. It makes for a much improved shielding at the expense
of much more complex mechanical assembly.

Jim



wrote in message
ll.nl...
what's the difference?
Is "open face"on a singlesided pcb and "sandwich" on a doublesided pcb?
I use a doublesided pcb with one side as a groundplane.

tnx, Wim




K7ITM February 2nd 06 05:56 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
Oh, well, those of us who deal with multilayer boards regularly use
stripline: lines sandwiched between ground planes on inner layers. But
from the sounds of it, Wim almost certainly is using microstrip.
However, if you look more carefully at it, you'll discover that your 75
ohm line is NOT 75 ohms "from DC to daylight" -- things fall apart at
low frequencies (significantly so below 1MHz or so), and where the
dimensions of the line are comparable to a wavelength (well below
"daylight"). But again, Wim should be fine using the dimensions you
originally gave him for what he wants to do.

Cheers,
Tom


W8LNA February 2nd 06 05:59 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
wrote:
what's the difference?


You should do some homework,
http://www.ansys.com/industries/mems..._micostrip.pdf

or in a shorter format

http://tinyurl.com/dxtvu

Cheers,
Galen, W8LNA

K7ITM February 2nd 06 06:14 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
It's a long and twisty path...

When Hewlett-Packard split off the test and measurement, life sciences,
medical and semiconductor businesses in 2000 as Agilent Technologies,
AppCAD went to Agilent. But last year, Agilent split off the
Semiconductor Products Group, which is now a new company, Avago
Technologies. Because AppCAD supports design of circuits using the
semiconductors, it went to the new company. If you go to
http://www.avagotech.com/ and search for appcad, you will pretty much
immediately find a link to the Avago-supported version. (You can also
get there by searching for appcad on the Agilent home page, but it will
redirect you to Avago.)

Cheers,
Tom


Cheers,
Tom


[email protected] February 3rd 06 10:23 PM

stripline@ 75 Ohm
 
Thank you all for your input and help!
Now i can live on :)

73, Wim PE1PME


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