Bill Turner wrote:
What does it mean to be a real radio ham?

It means you have a real ham license. Anything else, including the rest
of your post, is just one person's opinion, period.

Ah, but define a 'real ham license'. A lot of people in the UK think
the M3/Foundation licence is NOT a real ham licence! Herein lies the
problem!

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1 This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio. = MAN

2 Thus a Radio Ham could also hold a CB licence safe in the knowledge that
such a licence says no more about him than having a land-line = MAN

3 Ham Radio licence and a CB Radio licence. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then = MAN


Sir with respect to you
this is error

I myself have heard on quite few occasions
women with their own stations / license G3`s 4`s and 8
and have met a female Radio ham
at the Canvey Island public Amatuer Radio Rally Sale
who was also a stall - holder

another licensed Female operater was a sales lady in an
Essex amatuer radio Shop, she used to go to the same
social club as me.

Keith
G8IFW
after this, I think look how many mistakes I make, loads of them.
I think i had better write better messages myself

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

know code wrote:

Bill Turner wrote:
What does it mean to be a real radio ham?
It means you have a real ham license. Anything else, including
the rest
of your post, is just one person's opinion, period.

Ah, but define a 'real ham license'. A lot of people in the UK think
the M3/Foundation licence is NOT a real ham licence! Herein lies the
problem!


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In this context, it doesn't matter what individuals think. What matters
is what the gummint says. If they call it an "Amateur Radio License" or
the equivalent, that's what it is. IF they call it a "Citizen's Band
License" or the equivalent, that's also what it is.

What you or I make of those is important to us but irrelevant to the
original question.

Bill T.

Au contraire.

You might have one of those, but otherwise be
a CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham.

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for gentlemen; a technical
pursuit whose rights and standards we must uphold.

The operating hobby is known as CB Radio.

Bill Turner wrote:
What does it mean to be a real radio ham?

It means you have a real ham license. Anything else, including the rest
of your post, is just one person's opinion, period.

Bill, W6WRT

"Plod's Conscience" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am part of a community of like-minded individuals

Say no more;c)

rrh

I detect some copy and pasting going on here..

Plod's Conscience wrote:

Au contraire.

You might have one of those, but otherwise be
a CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham.

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for gentlemen; a technical
pursuit whose rights and standards we must uphold.

The operating hobby is known as CB Radio.

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Plod's Conscience wrote:

If you're tired of what is going on in the Usenet groups, you're
welcome to join the Ham Radio Unplugged group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ham-Radio-Unplugged/


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Quoting from the moderator's message:

"This group supports free and uncensored speech, so a moderator will
not be jumping in all the time telling people how to conduct themselves
as is done in other groups. Of course no ongoing "flame wars" or spam
will be allowed..."

In other words, you're free to say anything the moderator thinks is ok.

No, thanks.

Bill, W6WRT

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Plod's Conscience wrote:

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for gentlemen; a technical
pursuit whose rights and standards we must uphold.


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I love this kind of stuff. Think how boring it would be if we were all
just normal, rational beings living in the real world.

Bill, W6WRT

I think it is you who is, perhaps, analysing this thread
with a limited purview, and who is in the wrong.

You will find that the FAQ is very much an encouragement
for all to learn new things and apply themselves to improve
their lot.

I cannot see how your remarks below can be squared with
the exhortations and encouragements that are in the FAQ.

Please read the FAQ, perhaps for the first time?

Bob Bob wrote:
You are wrong Mr Plod.

Try to open your mind up just a little, learn some new things and
consider that your views are based on prejudice and a very narrow view
of what the world is and should be.

Is that some form of CB mentalism, for there
was none in what you quoted?

Bob Bob wrote:
I detect some copy and pasting going on here..

Plod's Conscience wrote:

Au contraire.

You might have one of those, but otherwise be
a CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham.

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for gentlemen; a technical
pursuit whose rights and standards we must uphold.

The operating hobby is known as CB Radio.