Most everyone has a screwdriver or two laying around the house, but not
everyone has a minimum collection stored in a tool box. If you know a
young person graduating from high school, a single relative, or even
yourself, a tool box with a minimum complement of tools may be the perfect
gift.

Based on my own experience, the BASIC TOOL BOX should include:

A plastic or metal box such as the 13² plastic box from Walmart or the 14²
plastic box from Lowes. The box should have a secure latch that won¹t
come open when picked up.

#1 Philips screwdriver

#2 Philips screwdriver

1/8² Flat blade screwdriver

1/4² Flat blade screwdriver

Standard pair of slip-joint pliers with insulated handle

Diagonal cutters with insulated handle

Long nose pliers with side cutter and insulated handle

Small claw hammer such as Sears 3805 - 7 oz.

Depending on your knowledge of the individual¹s needs and the size of the
box, additional items might include:

Full-size hammer

Crowbar or pry-lever

Flashlight

Tire pressure gauge(s)

Pocket knife & sharpening stone

Soldering iron & solder & soldering braid

Digital multimeter

Set of nut drivers

Set of Allen wrenches

Set of Torx drivers

You get the idea!

73, Fred, K4DII

Based on my own experience, the BASIC TOOL BOX should include:

A plastic or metal box such as the 13² plastic box from Walmart or the 14²
plastic box from Lowes. The box should have a secure latch that won¹t
come open when picked up.

#1 Philips screwdriver

#2 Philips screwdriver

1/8² Flat blade screwdriver

1/4² Flat blade screwdriver
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What about Posidrive screwdrivers ? These are similar to Philips type of
screwdrivers but have additional 'notches' (if that is the correct word)
for better grip . The relevant screw heads are accordingly.

Frank , GM0CSZ / KN6WH

PS Most screws used in the UK are now of the Posidrive type.

In article , Highland Ham
wrote:

What about Posidrive screwdrivers ? These are similar to Philips type of
screwdrivers but have additional 'notches' (if that is the correct word)
for better grip . The relevant screw heads are accordingly.

Frank-

I've heard of Posidrive. I think they are used in an old Hewlett Packard
counter I have. However, the tool dealers I asked had never heard of
them. I ended up using a common Phillips driver for my counter.

Certainly Posidrive would be a better choice where they are more commonly used.

Fred

Fred McKenzie wrote:
I've heard of Posidrive. I think they are used in an old Hewlett Packard
counter I have. However, the tool dealers I asked had never heard of
them. I ended up using a common Phillips driver for my counter.

Certainly Posidrive would be a better choice where they are more commonly used.

I'd consider looking for some other tool dealers to do business with.
Pozidriv (a registered trademark of Phillips Screw Co.) screws and
drivers are very common, sold by just about every tool company from
Snap-on through Stanley to Sears.

Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a
Pozidriv screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this
combination. Any decent toolbox should include some Pozidriv drivers or
bits.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Roy,

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...
Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a Pozidriv
screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this combination.

How well does it work the other way around -- using Pozidriv screwdrivers on
"regular old" Phillips-head screws?

Joel Kolstad wrote:
Roy,

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
...
Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a Pozidriv
screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this combination.

How well does it work the other way around -- using Pozidriv screwdrivers on
"regular old" Phillips-head screws?

In my experience, it works better than using a Phillips driver on a
Pozidriv screw. But it still doesn't fit really well.

Roy Lewallen

ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Roy Lewallen wrote:

Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a
Pozidriv screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this
combination. Any decent toolbox should include some Pozidriv drivers
or bits.



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The flutes on a Phillips bit are tapered; on a Pozidrive they are
parallel. In many cases you can use either bit on the other, but if
available, use the correct one.

A Phillips bit can "lever" itself out due to the taper, where a
Pozidrive will not.

Bill, W6WRT
ex Tektronix employee

In article , Roy Lewallen
wrote:

I'd consider looking for some other tool dealers to do business with.
Pozidriv (a registered trademark of Phillips Screw Co.) screws and
drivers are very common, sold by just about every tool company from
Snap-on through Stanley to Sears.


OK Guys! I've done some more checking, and still can't find a store that
sells Posidrive or Pozidrive. I have one lead to a specialty tool store
across the state, but the local Ace, Sears and Lowes don't carry either
the screws or the drivers.

I can see where the Posidrive may be used in some electronic equipment,
but all of the screws in the hinges in my house, as well as the screws
holding the locks on the doors, are definitely Phillips. Are Posidrive
screws used for those applications in other countries?

I can see now that my original list should have stopped without the
additional items. The purpose was to define a really BASIC set of tools
for use around the home!

Fred

In article ,
Fred McKenzie wrote:

OK Guys! I've done some more checking, and still can't find a store that
sells Posidrive or Pozidrive. I have one lead to a specialty tool store
across the state, but the local Ace, Sears and Lowes don't carry either
the screws or the drivers.

I haven't seen complete Pozidrive drivers anywhere around here, but
Orchard Supply (local hardware outlet) has Pozidrive bits in several
sizes, which will go into the usual magnetic-hex-socket driver
handles. In fact, just yesterday I glanced over their $2.99 "17 bits
in a small carrying case" assortment by the cash register, and found
that it contains 3 Phillips and 3 similarly-sized Pozidrive bits.

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I can see where the Posidrive may be used in some electronic equipment,
but all of the screws in the hinges in my house, as well as the screws
holding the locks on the doors, are definitely Phillips. Are Posidrive
screws used for those applications in other countries?
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Most wood screws in (at least)western Europe are now posidrive ,because
the grip is so much better ,which is necessary due to the frequent use
of electric screwdrivers.

A tool company Draper are selling chromium-vanadium steel screwdrivers
in sets with coloured plastic grips (in the UK)
A set comprises 3x3 ,total of 9 screwdrivers
Flat blade : Red grip
Phillips : Blue grip (or is it Philips?)
Posidrive : Green grip

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH