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Old April 17th 06, 10:32 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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Based on my own experience, the BASIC TOOL BOX should include:

A plastic or metal box such as the 13˛ plastic box from Walmart or the 14˛
plastic box from Lowes. The box should have a secure latch that wonąt
come open when picked up.

#1 Philips screwdriver

#2 Philips screwdriver

1/8˛ Flat blade screwdriver

1/4˛ Flat blade screwdriver

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What about Posidrive screwdrivers ? These are similar to Philips type of
screwdrivers but have additional 'notches' (if that is the correct word)
for better grip . The relevant screw heads are accordingly.

Frank , GM0CSZ / KN6WH

PS Most screws used in the UK are now of the Posidrive type.
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Old April 18th 06, 04:18 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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In article , Highland Ham
wrote:

What about Posidrive screwdrivers ? These are similar to Philips type of
screwdrivers but have additional 'notches' (if that is the correct word)
for better grip . The relevant screw heads are accordingly.


Frank-

I've heard of Posidrive. I think they are used in an old Hewlett Packard
counter I have. However, the tool dealers I asked had never heard of
them. I ended up using a common Phillips driver for my counter.

Certainly Posidrive would be a better choice where they are more commonly used.

Fred
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Old April 18th 06, 06:12 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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Fred McKenzie wrote:
I've heard of Posidrive. I think they are used in an old Hewlett Packard
counter I have. However, the tool dealers I asked had never heard of
them. I ended up using a common Phillips driver for my counter.

Certainly Posidrive would be a better choice where they are more commonly used.


I'd consider looking for some other tool dealers to do business with.
Pozidriv (a registered trademark of Phillips Screw Co.) screws and
drivers are very common, sold by just about every tool company from
Snap-on through Stanley to Sears.

Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a
Pozidriv screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this
combination. Any decent toolbox should include some Pozidriv drivers or
bits.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL
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Old April 18th 06, 04:50 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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Roy,

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
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Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a Pozidriv
screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this combination.


How well does it work the other way around -- using Pozidriv screwdrivers on
"regular old" Phillips-head screws?


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Old April 18th 06, 07:53 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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Joel Kolstad wrote:
Roy,

"Roy Lewallen" wrote in message
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Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a Pozidriv
screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this combination.


How well does it work the other way around -- using Pozidriv screwdrivers on
"regular old" Phillips-head screws?


In my experience, it works better than using a Phillips driver on a
Pozidriv screw. But it still doesn't fit really well.

Roy Lewallen


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Old April 18th 06, 07:16 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Roy Lewallen wrote:

Tektronix used Pozidriv screws exclusively for many years, until they
converted over to Torx. A standard Phillips bit fits poorly in a
Pozidriv screw, making it really easy to chew up the screw with this
combination. Any decent toolbox should include some Pozidriv drivers
or bits.




*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

The flutes on a Phillips bit are tapered; on a Pozidrive they are
parallel. In many cases you can use either bit on the other, but if
available, use the correct one.

A Phillips bit can "lever" itself out due to the taper, where a
Pozidrive will not.

Bill, W6WRT
ex Tektronix employee
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Old April 19th 06, 03:30 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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In article , Roy Lewallen
wrote:

I'd consider looking for some other tool dealers to do business with.
Pozidriv (a registered trademark of Phillips Screw Co.) screws and
drivers are very common, sold by just about every tool company from
Snap-on through Stanley to Sears.



OK Guys! I've done some more checking, and still can't find a store that
sells Posidrive or Pozidrive. I have one lead to a specialty tool store
across the state, but the local Ace, Sears and Lowes don't carry either
the screws or the drivers.

I can see where the Posidrive may be used in some electronic equipment,
but all of the screws in the hinges in my house, as well as the screws
holding the locks on the doors, are definitely Phillips. Are Posidrive
screws used for those applications in other countries?

I can see now that my original list should have stopped without the
additional items. The purpose was to define a really BASIC set of tools
for use around the home!

Fred
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Old April 19th 06, 05:07 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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In article ,
Fred McKenzie wrote:

OK Guys! I've done some more checking, and still can't find a store that
sells Posidrive or Pozidrive. I have one lead to a specialty tool store
across the state, but the local Ace, Sears and Lowes don't carry either
the screws or the drivers.


I haven't seen complete Pozidrive drivers anywhere around here, but
Orchard Supply (local hardware outlet) has Pozidrive bits in several
sizes, which will go into the usual magnetic-hex-socket driver
handles. In fact, just yesterday I glanced over their $2.99 "17 bits
in a small carrying case" assortment by the cash register, and found
that it contains 3 Phillips and 3 similarly-sized Pozidrive bits.

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Old April 19th 06, 10:38 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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I can see where the Posidrive may be used in some electronic equipment,
but all of the screws in the hinges in my house, as well as the screws
holding the locks on the doors, are definitely Phillips. Are Posidrive
screws used for those applications in other countries?

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Most wood screws in (at least)western Europe are now posidrive ,because
the grip is so much better ,which is necessary due to the frequent use
of electric screwdrivers.

A tool company Draper are selling chromium-vanadium steel screwdrivers
in sets with coloured plastic grips (in the UK)
A set comprises 3x3 ,total of 9 screwdrivers
Flat blade : Red grip
Phillips : Blue grip (or is it Philips?)
Posidrive : Green grip

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH



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Old April 25th 06, 06:32 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.repair
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I've never seen anything with a posidrive screw in it.. They aren't used
very much in the USA or at least in Florida... I have yet to need a
posidrive screwdriver and I've taken all kinds of things apart in my life..
I consider a good set of torx and allen wrenches a necessity along with a
set of sockets and wrenches and of course a small set of jewlers
screwdrivers and mini torx bits, hammers, saws, etc...

The funny thing is I never knew what that weird looking phillips bit I had
was called until today.

- Mike

"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
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In article , Roy Lewallen
wrote:

I'd consider looking for some other tool dealers to do business with.
Pozidriv (a registered trademark of Phillips Screw Co.) screws and
drivers are very common, sold by just about every tool company from
Snap-on through Stanley to Sears.



OK Guys! I've done some more checking, and still can't find a store that
sells Posidrive or Pozidrive. I have one lead to a specialty tool store
across the state, but the local Ace, Sears and Lowes don't carry either
the screws or the drivers.

I can see where the Posidrive may be used in some electronic equipment,
but all of the screws in the hinges in my house, as well as the screws
holding the locks on the doors, are definitely Phillips. Are Posidrive
screws used for those applications in other countries?

I can see now that my original list should have stopped without the
additional items. The purpose was to define a really BASIC set of tools
for use around the home!

Fred





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