is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

Andrew VK3BFA wrote:
And you, sir, have been told, repeatedly, by ex military comms people
(amongst others) thats its just a plain downright, stupid, time
wasting, idiotic, non feasible "idea".

Does it need to be spelt out any clearer than that?

What dont you understand?

Seriously, hams have long been responsible for taking time wasting
idiotic non feasible "ideas" and VERY occasionally turning them into
serious modes of communications.

I agree that in this particular case the original idea has several
enormous flaws. But with some of the modifications suggested here I
think there may be something of some value in some emergency
circumstances.

Certainly the professionals who set up digitally trunked comm systems
have a less than stellar track record at actual success ( do NOT
confuse with "contractual success") and I have a large chip on my
shoulder regarding ALL the billions of dollars that they've wasted at
taxpayer expense. Not to mention the distortions they've caused to
frequency allocations that actually WERE previously useful.

And you would be SERIOUSLY surprised at some of the far stupider flawed
ideas that are being funded by government agencies.

Tim.

is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

On 19 Jun 2006 18:32:38 -0700, wrote:


wrote:

And just where do you get this CD-ROM in a deserted, destroyed building
after the catastrophe?

Clearly you are only skimming my posts rather than reading them.

Starting at the beginning:

1) Squad leader carries a mini-CDROM in his/her pocket. That's the
nucleus
for everything else. With luck, nothing else need be carried into
the field.

2) The CDROM would contain schematics and part numbers of everything
necessary
to forage to create a datalink.

3) SSB CB Radios (funny, my RS always carries the SSB CB radio as the
high end
model) would be one of several pieces of RF equipment
that could be foraged off the street (i.e. Radio Shack stores,
truck stops, etc).

4) Most new laptops carry 12V power input. Older ones don't. There
are plenty
of sources to forage a laptop from: Target, Walmart, and K-mart
come to mind
as well as Radio Shack.

5) The laptop, radio, and car are all at street level. People can
take plain old copper
wire and make a dipole or inverted Vee with it, hanging it from the
roof top. The only actual ground to antenna connnection comes
between the radio and the center of the dipole or inverted Vee.

Caught up now?

The Eternal Squire

You know, then again the idea doesn't want to know.
If they ( the first responders) find a working (unwet and
undamaged) CB radio, battery and antenna they could
just pick up the mic and TALK. That would would be
both cost effective and requires far less effort/training to
implement. It would also conform to the CB norm and other
gasp operators might be part of the assistance. There
may still be people working the REACT system.

For those that remember before CB became littered with
carriers and other flotsum and jetsum CB was considered
a very good tactical radio due to it's channelized character.
Since then portable amatuer HTs, FRS and GMRS radios
became available and reliable and share in that tactical
capability without the need for a 9ft whip.

Allison

is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

I never was behind.

You, however, have no concept of what it is like to have boots in
the dirt.

Your prolly talking to one of those Pencil Pushing pentagon admin types we
had to deal with :D. They
have no concept what its like to be in the field.

is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

Mark Zenier wrote:


snip

Contrary to popular opinion, I think that a packet radio relay made with
a portable computer with a sound card, a CB transceiver, and a patch cable
all made from stuff that you could "liberate" from the local Radio Shack
is possible. Some sort of PTT control (VOX?) would be the hardest part.

It is not a matter of being possible to do by someone who knows what
they are doing.

It is a matter of being practical to do by random, untrained people,
and doing it many times.

snip remaining

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

What the feds want to do is to be able to communicate mil-spec
digital
packets over low power links in the middle of a disaster-hit area
between squads of Guards deployed across a destroyed city.

====================================
Americans are always planning for war. It's an inbuilt disposition.

That's the best way of guaranteeing they will get it sooner or later.

Witness Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Palestine and many other places.

But keep the Chinese, Russians and Indians in mind. No danger from
them. But they are in a position to retaliate in kind.

Why not plan for Peace! It's safer!

is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

In article . com,
wrote:

Clearly you are only skimming my posts rather than reading them.

E.S.-

You are not easily discouraged!

Consider that many who have posted negative comments here, have years of
experience in the military. Others have experience in providing
communications systems for field deployment. Their comments may not have
addressed all the points you posted in order to maintain brevity. I
detect a consensus that your brother's proposal is not practical, even
though it is theoretically possible.

Reading your postings, I can't help but recall two experiences from my youth:

1. A snipe hunt.

2. Trying to catch a bird by putting salt on its tail.

Fred

is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

Wars may be disasters, but disasters are not wars.

Reg Edwards wrote:
What the feds want to do is to be able to communicate mil-spec
digital
packets over low power links in the middle of a disaster-hit area
between squads of Guards deployed across a destroyed city.

====================================
Americans are always planning for war. It's an inbuilt disposition.

That's the best way of guaranteeing they will get it sooner or later.

Witness Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Palestine and many other places.

But keep the Chinese, Russians and Indians in mind. No danger from
them. But they are in a position to retaliate in kind.

Why not plan for Peace! It's safer!

is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

Reg Edwards wrote:

What the feds want to do is to be able to communicate mil-spec
digital
packets over low power links in the middle of a disaster-hit area
between squads of Guards deployed across a destroyed city.

====================================
Americans are always planning for war. It's an inbuilt disposition.

That's the best way of guaranteeing they will get it sooner or later.

Witness Vietnam, Iraq, Afganistan, Palestine and many other places.

But keep the Chinese, Russians and Indians in mind. No danger from
them. But they are in a position to retaliate in kind.

Why not plan for Peace! It's safer!

Sure, do like you and spend your whole life with your head between
your legs as you kiss your life good-bye. What a pathetic loser. If
the rest of england had had your view you would have let Hitler have the
keys to Buckingham Palace as his troops shot the men and raped the
women. How wide is that yellow stripe?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

Its just not good business. Peace works against Fear, Uncertainty and
Doubt, the prime movers of the business world. Why would you suggest
such an irrational thing?

Reg Edwards wrote:


Why not plan for Peace! It's safer!





--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

is an STA needed to transmit data on CB channel 40?
 

Its just not good business. Peace works against Fear, Uncertainty and
Doubt, the prime movers of the business world. Why would you suggest
such an irrational thing?

Reg Edwards wrote:


Why not plan for Peace! It's safer!





--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P