US talk radio
Very long feature just finished on "Broadcasting House" on Radio 4 this
morning , about right wing and left wing stations in the US and the up and coming liberal station. Played air checks of various broadcasters. Are these what used to be called shock jocks? They are more shocking than ours in the UK! Rush Limbaugh seems to be in a sad state, his catchphrase is "Talent on loan from God"! G Gordon Liddy seems very opinionated. I quote from the programme "radio is to the right". I wonder if the new station, Air America, will be welcomed to widen the dialogue. Will advertisers aim to the liberal market? Mike |
Mike Terry wrote:
Very long feature just finished on "Broadcasting House" on Radio 4 this morning , about right wing and left wing stations in the US and the up and coming liberal station. Played air checks of various broadcasters. Are these what used to be called shock jocks? They are more shocking than ours in the UK! Rush Limbaugh seems to be in a sad state, his catchphrase is "Talent on loan from God"! G Gordon Liddy seems very opinionated. I quote from the programme "radio is to the right". I wonder if the new station, Air America, will be welcomed to widen the dialogue. Will advertisers aim to the liberal market? What is not widely publicized about this new network is that it's on a bunch of technically-weak stations. None of them are competitive, from a signal standpoint, with the stations that air the right-of-center programs. No, "shock jocks" refer to attempts to shock with sexual innuendo. "Shock" announcers generally don't have any particular political agenda. IMHO advertisers will buy any program that people who buy their products listen to. -- Doug Smith W9WI Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66 http://www.w9wi.com |
Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
[...] new liberal talk show network What is not widely publicized about this new network is that it's on a bunch of technically-weak stations. None of them are competitive, from a signal standpoint, with the stations that air the right-of-center programs. The LA station on 1580 is a 50kw, that dumps most of its power over the Pacific Ocean (to protect stations in Mexico....) |
Mike Terry wrote:
Very long feature just finished on "Broadcasting House" on Radio 4 this morning , about right wing and left wing stations in the US and the up and coming liberal station. Played air checks of various broadcasters. Who did they play (besides Rush and Liddy?) Are these what used to be called shock jocks? They are more shocking than ours in the UK! I don't know....I heard some downright bizarre stuff on "TalkSport" one night in London! Rush Limbaugh seems to be in a sad state, his catchphrase is "Talent on loan from God"! He's been saying that for years... G Gordon Liddy seems very opinionated. I quote from the programme "radio is to the right". I wonder if the new station, Air America, will be welcomed to widen the dialogue. I don't know. They've selected four stations (LA, NY, Chicago and I think San Francisco). None of the stations has particularly good coverage.... |
Charles Hobbs wrote in message ...
Mike Terry wrote: Very long feature just finished on "Broadcasting House" on Radio 4 this morning , about right wing and left wing stations in the US and the up and coming liberal station. Played air checks of various broadcasters. Who did they play (besides Rush and Liddy?) Are these what used to be called shock jocks? They are more shocking than ours in the UK! I don't know....I heard some downright bizarre stuff on "TalkSport" one night in London! Rush Limbaugh seems to be in a sad state, his catchphrase is "Talent on loan from God"! He's been saying that for years... G Gordon Liddy seems very opinionated. I quote from the programme "radio is to the right". I wonder if the new station, Air America, will be welcomed to widen the dialogue. I don't know. They've selected four stations (LA, NY, Chicago and I think San Francisco). None of the stations has particularly good coverage.... What are the other stations? I would imagine that it's rather difficult to find available outlets in the major markets for an unproved product, when the big stations already run the rightwing stuff. |
"Mike Terry" wrote in message ...
Very long feature just finished on "Broadcasting House" on Radio 4 this morning , about right wing and left wing stations in the US and the up and coming liberal station. Played air checks of various broadcasters. Are these what used to be called shock jocks? They are more shocking than ours in the UK! Rush Limbaugh seems to be in a sad state, his catchphrase is "Talent on loan from God"! He is in a bad state. He is a drug offender and could face prison time. He should, given what he has said about drug offenders in the past. I have to wonder why he needed all those painkillers when he has such a cushy job in radio. G Gordon Liddy seems very opinionated. He always was (so is Rush). Liddy's also a convicted felon; one of the "Watergate" conspirators. I quote from the programme "radio is to the right". The people with money are generally conservative, so that's where they target the ads. I wonder if the new station, Air America, will be welcomed to widen the dialogue. Will advertisers aim to the liberal market? Probably not. Mike |
"Charles Hobbs" wrote in message ... Mike Terry wrote: Very long feature just finished on "Broadcasting House" on Radio 4 this morning , about right wing and left wing stations in the US and the up and coming liberal station. Played air checks of various broadcasters. Who did they play (besides Rush and Liddy?) yes I think so, Mike. |
Charles Hobbs wrote in message ...
Doug Smith W9WI wrote: [...] new liberal talk show network What is not widely publicized about this new network is that it's on a bunch of technically-weak stations. None of them are competitive, from a signal standpoint, with the stations that air the right-of-center programs. The LA station on 1580 is a 50kw, that dumps most of its power over the Pacific Ocean (to protect stations in Mexico....) If you're referring to the former KDAY in Santa Monica, it has a decent signal to the North but does have to protect the Mexican (used to be XEDM, I believe) on the same frequency. |
On 28 Mar 2004 16:02:05 GMT, "Mike Terry"
wrote: Are these what used to be called shock jocks? They are more shocking than ours in the UK! Rush Limbaugh seems to be in a sad state, his catchphrase is "Talent on loan from God"! I'm afraid the BBC is stuck in the last century. Rush Limbaugh has been using that slogan almost since day one well over a decade ago. It's a little like saying WINS is in a sad state because they've used "Give us 22 minutes and we'll give you the world." Sometimes a slogan stands up to the test of time. Advertising agencies have orgasmic incedents when they discover one of their slogans enters popular culture. G Gordon Liddy seems very opinionated. Duh! I quote from the programme "radio is to the right". Duh! I wonder if the new station, Air America, will be welcomed to widen the dialogue. First, a very small percentage of the population will have access to Air America programming compared with its conservative competition. It'll take many years to develop the coverage enjoyed by Limbaugh (600+ for Limbaugh. Fewer than 20 marginal signals for Air America). The conservatives already have the best signals on well branded stations. New York will be very difficult because their outlet is solidly branded as a Black station, both Black talk and Dominican music. The WLIB heritage (sadly) will have to be destroyed before a new one can be created. That'll require a call letter change and very expensive promotion. Their competition will be WABC. WABC does a lot of transit promotion and television during important rating surveys. WABC and KFI, Los Angeles compete for the title of the most listened-to Talk station in the nation. I have the feeling that Al Franken, in partifcular, will make it an "us vs. them" atmosphere. If he does, it'll be a wonderful promotional medium for conservative stations. The more he mentions O'Reilly and Limbaugh the more Air America should charge Premiere and Westwood One for advertising time. I say that sadly because I really like Al Franken and Randi Rhodes. Will advertisers aim to the liberal market? By and large advertisers avoid any kind of controversy. That's why Laura Schlessinger lost 30 million in billing over her slam at the gay community and Michael Savage threatened to sue everyone on earth for complaining to his advertisers for something similar (excuse: "I didn't know the mic was on"). Large network advertisers avoid controversy like the plague. It doesn't matter if the controversy is on the right or the left. I can't believe the BBC is just noticing that Talk Radio in the US is right wing. Rich |
Richard Cranium wrote:
Charles Hobbs wrote in message ... Doug Smith W9WI wrote: [...] new liberal talk show network What is not widely publicized about this new network is that it's on a bunch of technically-weak stations. None of them are competitive, from a signal standpoint, with the stations that air the right-of-center programs. The LA station on 1580 is a 50kw, that dumps most of its power over the Pacific Ocean (to protect stations in Mexico....) If you're referring to the former KDAY in Santa Monica, it has a decent signal to the North but does have to protect the Mexican (used to be XEDM, I believe) on the same frequency. How far north? It doesn't seem to put much of a signal into the San Fernando Valley during the day (at night, all bets are off).... |
Rich,
Generally in the UK we have a relaxed and permissive attitude and on air presenters do not try to make fools of those who 'phone in. Mike. |
"Richard Cranium" wrote in message ... He is in a bad state. He is a drug offender and could face prison time. He should, given what he has said about drug offenders in the past. I have to wonder why he needed all those painkillers when he has such a cushy job in radio. A cushy job in radio prevents pain? |
"Richard Cranium" wrote in message ... Charles Hobbs wrote in message ... Doug Smith W9WI wrote: [...] new liberal talk show network What is not widely publicized about this new network is that it's on a bunch of technically-weak stations. None of them are competitive, from a signal standpoint, with the stations that air the right-of-center programs. The LA station on 1580 is a 50kw, that dumps most of its power over the Pacific Ocean (to protect stations in Mexico....) If you're referring to the former KDAY in Santa Monica, it has a decent signal to the North but does have to protect the Mexican (used to be XEDM, I believe) on the same frequency. It is only moderately listenable in the San Fernando Valley in the daytime, and virtually useless there at night. That is to the North. 1580 in the US protects, if I am not mistaken, the B assignments in both the US and Canada. And XEDM in Hermosillo, a non-directional 50 kw station, virtually wipes it out in the fringe areas at night. |
"Richard Cranium" wrote in message ... I wonder if the new station, Air America, will be welcomed to widen the dialogue. Will advertisers aim to the liberal market? Probably not. Advertisers aim at large audiences. They seldom care about political opinions. |
On 30 Mar 2004 05:18:53 GMT, "Mike Terry"
wrote: Generally in the UK we have a relaxed and permissive attitude and on air presenters do not try to make fools of those who 'phone in. Unfortunately, making fools of callers is what drives most US Talk Radio. We get a reprieve on the weekends when the "lifestyle" shows predominate. It's hard for a pet show to make mean-spiriited fun of someone who chooses a pig as a pet. You can criticize our President, but keep your opinions to yourself when it comes to our pets. In this case, the pig is smarter. Rich |
"Mike Terry" wrote in news:c46stt$giu$1
@xuxa.iecc.com: I wonder if the new station, Air America, will be welcomed to widen the dialogue. Will advertisers aim to the liberal market? So far today, the only advertising has been PSAs, promos for other programs, and an XM trade. And Franken pushing his books, of course. G. Gordon Liddy calling in from his show to congratulate Franken on HIS show is a nice touch. FWIW, Air America is streaming at: http://play.rbn.com/?url=airam/airam/live/live.rm off of http://airamericaradio.com. -- |I always wanted to be someone,| Tom Betz, Generalist | |but now I think I should have | Want to send me email? | |been a wee bit more specific. | http://tinyurl.com/ps2u | |
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