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Cost of internal keyer * nothing to do with cost!
"Fabian Kurz" wrote in message ... Cecil Moore wrote: Instead of a chip, wouldn't it make more sense just to use a small subroutine in the CPU? That's what most radios do these days. Some with less-than-perfect priorities: The internal keyer of one particular YAECOMWOD flagship transceiver I recently had the pleasure to operate generated broken CW if the processor had other tasks, like starting the internal fan, to do... About the topic in general: The cost of adding a keyer is negligible, and no serious manufacturer will even consider to omit it from their radios. It *is* a selling point, no matter if people use it or not... 73, -- Fabian Kurz, DJ1YFK * Dresden, Germany * http://fkurz.net/ I recently bought a high end HF rig and would not have considered it if it had been the same rig with no keyer built in. My code skills have been lost from years of not using them, but now that I don't have to gain a certain word speed to "upgrade" I have a paddle and will be starting CW again. Ashame that a hobby that is suppose to promote experimentation and communication had blocked of so many frequencies for "elitist" use. ****************** Oh by the way straight from the current ARRL QST April issue Page 12 "This Just In" "U.S. hams who wish to operate with full privileges in European countries covered by the European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations (CEPT) must now hold an Extra class licensee."****************** I was studying for my Extra, but if all it is to be, is another elitist" use of rules and reg's to validate the "high standing" of VEC's and 'higher ups' then maybe I should skip the Extra Class. I have heard OT's and many in the Extra portions of the bands using as poor practices / illegal power / rude and foul language as in any other portions of the bands. If someone new or at a lower class licensee want so misbehave, restricting them to operate outside Extra band plans will not create good manors and legal behavior. Didn't anyone learn a thing from prohibition nearly a century ago. Same philosophy. 73 Have a Nice Day |
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"Mr Fed UP" wrote
****************** Oh by the way straight from the current ARRL QST April issue Page 12 "This Just In" "U.S. hams who wish to operate with full privileges in European countries covered by the European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations (CEPT) must now hold an Extra class licensee."****************** Your concern misses the whole point. It is a *privilege* to hold an extra class licensee... especially if she's cute! Howard N7SO |
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Cost of internal keyer * nothing to do with cost!
On Mar 25, 2:28�pm, "Mr Fed UP" wrote:
My code skills have been lost from years of not using them, but now that I don't have to gain a certain word speed to "upgrade" I have a paddle and will be starting CW again. � I don't see the connection. btw, all US amateur licenses that required code tests were available for just a 5 wpm code test and a doctor's note since 1990 (18 years) and for just a 5 wpm code test since 2000 (8 years). Ashame that a hobby that is suppose to promote experimentation and communication had blocked of so many frequencies for "elitist" use. What frequencies were those? The only CW/data spectrum reserved for Extras is the bottom 25 kHz of 80, 40, 20 and 15 meters. Oh by the way straight from the current ARRL QST April issue Page 12 "This Just In" �"U.S. hams who wish to operate with full privileges in European countries covered by the European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations (CEPT) must now hold an Extra �class licensee" Extra or Advanced. I was studying for my Extra, but if all it is to be, is another elitist" use of rules and reg's to validate the "high standing" of VEC's and 'higher ups' then maybe I should skip the Extra Class. The change has nothing to do with the VECs. It is the result of CEPT's Radio Regulatory Working Group re-evaluating the equivalence between CEPT country license requirements and US license requirements. IOW, the CEPT folks decided that having a General or Technician class license does not qualify the licensee to have full operating privileges in CEPT countries. Since Techs and Generals don't have full US operating privileges, why should they have full privs in CEPT countries? �I have heard OT's and many in the Extra portions of the bands using as poor practices / illegal power / rude and foul language as in any other portions of the bands. Have you heard those goings-on from hams using non-voice modes? 73 de Jim, N2EY� |
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Michael Coslo wrote:
I would not at all object to new license classes that were just based on knowledge, and didn't confer any particular privileges. That was essentially the case in 1954 when the Extra Class license didn't confer any particular frequency privileges. With a lowly mail-order Conditional Class license obtained by a lowly high school junior, I earned access to all amateur radio frequencies. ex-WN5DXP -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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Michael Coslo writes:
wrote: I've heard a little - not much. But by and large, most people who use non-voice modes such as PSK31 and OOK Morse are going to be less likely to engage in shenanigans because the very nature of the modes slows things down a little, and the Op is more likely to give a little more thought about what they type or key. Heard on the 9X0R listening frequency on 40m last night, in excellent CW: CQ DX CQ DX CQ DX de QRM QRM On top of all the malicious tuning and jamming. 73 LA4RT Jon, Trondheim, Norway |
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Cost of internal keyer * nothing to do with cost!
Thanks contributors.... even when all dont agree it is nice to have some
reasonable idears to ponder, Cheers 73 |
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