Who the **** are YOU to make such a statement? You snot nosed,
arrogant PRICK! You do NOT know the kind of person that I am!! Wake up
and smell the cappuccino! Code is obsolete! Knowing code does NOTHING
to make somebody an "asset to the service". And, could you explain
what makes a person an "asset to the service"?

Jeez,
Chill out, eh?

What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted
tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat,
spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?


Waxing poetic now?

Yes it's obsolete. Yes, it's fun.

Should it be used to qualify? Let the FCC decide (soon).

If it is eliminated, will that change the "Service"? Maybe.

Will CW disappear? Probably not.
Historically, it defined ham radio, so it has a special place in the
hearts of very many hams. It's natural that they sort of cling to it.

Will CW's elimination be the end of ham radio? Of course not.
Ham radio will cease when all the hams die off. New hams are needed,
with or without code.

My personal hope is that a significant minority of these new hams will
take up CW and learn to enjoy this mode. It truly is a fun mode. I
hope people will WANT to learn it.

Compulsory things are seldom welcome,,,some are necessary. Is CW a good
requirement for ham radio? I guess it has probably outlived its day.

A requirement related to other digital modes would make a good
replacement. True?

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:19:27 -0400, jawod spake
thusly:




Who the **** are YOU to make such a statement? You snot nosed,
arrogant PRICK! You do NOT know the kind of person that I am!! Wake up
and smell the cappuccino! Code is obsolete! Knowing code does NOTHING
to make somebody an "asset to the service". And, could you explain
what makes a person an "asset to the service"?

Jeez,
Chill out, eh?

Sorry, but I get upset with people who make statements that are easily
taken as personal insults.

What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted
tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat,
spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?


Waxing poetic now?

Yes it's obsolete. Yes, it's fun.

I found it to be cold and impersonal.

Should it be used to qualify? Let the FCC decide (soon).

Here in Canada, they already have. I believe the FCC will soon.

If it is eliminated, will that change the "Service"? Maybe.

Probably not.

Will CW disappear? Probably not.
Historically, it defined ham radio, so it has a special place in the
hearts of very many hams. It's natural that they sort of cling to it.

Let them cling, they are free to do so.

Will CW's elimination be the end of ham radio? Of course not.
Ham radio will cease when all the hams die off. New hams are needed,
with or without code.

I totally agree.

My personal hope is that a significant minority of these new hams will
take up CW and learn to enjoy this mode. It truly is a fun mode. I
hope people will WANT to learn it.

I always found it to be boring.

Compulsory things are seldom welcome,,,some are necessary. Is CW a good
requirement for ham radio? I guess it has probably outlived its day.

A requirement related to other digital modes would make a good
replacement. True?

I completely agree. If you want to filter out the less serious, then
use a relevant method. Here in Canada, in order to get a no-code
licence, you must get at least 80% on the technical. And technical
prowess will always be important regardless of the mode of
communication.

Opus- wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:19:27 -0400, jawod spake
thusly:

Who the **** are YOU to make such a statement? You snot nosed,
arrogant PRICK! You do NOT know the kind of person that I am!! Wake up
and smell the cappuccino! Code is obsolete! Knowing code does NOTHING
to make somebody an "asset to the service". And, could you explain
what makes a person an "asset to the service"?

Jeez,
Chill out, eh?

Sorry, but I get upset with people who make statements that are easily
taken as personal insults.

"Stuff happens."

BTW, this "Jawod" signed a message on rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
as "AB8O." I found a blank on that call sign at QRZ.


Yes it's obsolete. Yes, it's fun.

I found it to be cold and impersonal.

I agree. Manual radiotelegraphy has NONE of the body language
or tone of voice or much of anything that is normal in everyday
person-to-person contacts. Using this monotonic form of
very early radio allows any user to be anything they want with
no real references to anything but the ability to send telegraphy.


Should it be used to qualify? Let the FCC decide (soon).

Here in Canada, they already have. I believe the FCC will soon.

If it is eliminated, will that change the "Service"? Maybe.

Probably not.

Heh heh...if the test is eliminated the expressed outrage,
anguish, and horror will be a horrendous wail never to be
silenced until the last code key is pried from cold, dead
fingers! :-)


Will CW disappear? Probably not.
Historically, it defined ham radio, so it has a special place in the
hearts of very many hams. It's natural that they sort of cling to it.

Let them cling, they are free to do so.

I'd say "clog" as in cholesterol clogging those "hearts."

"Jawod" uses "many" AS IF it were quantitative. Not so much
in the USA now. The US Technician class licensees now
number about 49% of all, twice as large a number as the
General class. I doubt they want to hear such facts.


Will CW's elimination be the end of ham radio? Of course not.
Ham radio will cease when all the hams die off. New hams are needed,
with or without code.

I totally agree.

In the USA the number of newcomers is not able to keep pace
with the expirations of licensees. That trend has been evident
for more than a year. [see www.hamdata.com] The majority of
new licensees are Technician class. Novice class, the
supposed traditional "beginner" license has been expiring at a
steady rate for years before the US changes in 2000.


My personal hope is that a significant minority of these new hams will
take up CW and learn to enjoy this mode. It truly is a fun mode. I
hope people will WANT to learn it.

I always found it to be boring.

"Jawod" and other morsemen think that all will "like" what they
like. They really don't understand what other citizens want.


Compulsory things are seldom welcome,,,some are necessary. Is CW a good
requirement for ham radio? I guess it has probably outlived its day.

A requirement related to other digital modes would make a good
replacement. True?

I completely agree. If you want to filter out the less serious, then
use a relevant method. Here in Canada, in order to get a no-code
licence, you must get at least 80% on the technical. And technical
prowess will always be important regardless of the mode of
communication.

That sounds fair. In general I've approved what Industry Canada
does on communications regulations...a bit more than what the
FCC does for US civil radio services.

wrote:
Opus- wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:19:27 -0400, jawod spake
thusly:

Who the #### are YOU to make such a statement? You snot nosed,
arrogant #####! You do NOT know the kind of person that I am!! Wake up
and smell the cappuccino! Code is obsolete! Knowing code does NOTHING
to make somebody an "asset to the service". And, could you explain
what makes a person an "asset to the service"?

Jeez,
Chill out, eh?

Sorry, but I get upset with people who make statements that are easily
taken as personal insults.

"Stuff happens."

BTW, this "Jawod" signed a message on rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
as "AB8O." I found a blank on that call sign at QRZ.

What a coincidence...I used QRZ's database search engine and found
a blank when I entered "Leonard H. Anderson".

Funny, eh...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

Opus- wrote:

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:19:27 -0400, jawod spake
thusly:


Who the #### are YOU to make such a statement? You snot nosed,
arrogant #####! You do NOT know the kind of person that I am!! Wake up
and smell the cappuccino! Code is obsolete! Knowing code does NOTHING
to make somebody an "asset to the service". And, could you explain
what makes a person an "asset to the service"?


Jeez,
Chill out, eh?

Sorry, but I get upset with people who make statements that are easily
taken as personal insults.

"Stuff happens."

BTW, this "Jawod" signed a message on rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
as "AB8O." I found a blank on that call sign at QRZ.


What a coincidence...I used QRZ's database search engine and found
a blank when I entered "Leonard H. Anderson".

Funny, eh...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


I am not "Leonard H. Anderson"

jawod wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
wrote:

BTW, this "Jawod" signed a message on rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
as "AB8O." I found a blank on that call sign at QRZ.

What a coincidence...I used QRZ's database search engine and found
a blank when I entered "Leonard H. Anderson".

Funny, eh...?!?!

I am not "Leonard H. Anderson"

I know you're not.

I was jabbing Lennie in the ribs about supposedly not finding
someone (you?) under a certain call when HE'S not in there either.
Never has been.

Sorry for the confusion.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
jawod wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

wrote:


BTW, this "Jawod" signed a message on rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
as "AB8O." I found a blank on that call sign at QRZ.

What a coincidence...I used QRZ's database search engine and found
a blank when I entered "Leonard H. Anderson".

Funny, eh...?!?!

I am not "Leonard H. Anderson"


I know you're not.

I was jabbing Lennie in the ribs about supposedly not finding
someone (you?) under a certain call when HE'S not in there either.
Never has been.

Sorry for the confusion.

Steve, K4YZ

I'm not in hiding.

No worries.

73,

John
AB8O

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
Opus- wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:19:27 -0400, jawod spake
thusly:

Who the #### are YOU to make such a statement? You snot nosed,
arrogant #####! You do NOT know the kind of person that I am!! Wake up
and smell the cappuccino! Code is obsolete! Knowing code does NOTHING
to make somebody an "asset to the service". And, could you explain
what makes a person an "asset to the service"?

Jeez,
Chill out, eh?

Sorry, but I get upset with people who make statements that are easily
taken as personal insults.

"Stuff happens."

BTW, this "Jawod" signed a message on rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
as "AB8O." I found a blank on that call sign at QRZ.

What a coincidence...I used QRZ's database search engine and found
a blank when I entered "Leonard H. Anderson".

Funny, eh...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

Funny? No.

Stupid? Yes.

I guess the only excercise you ever get is your exercise in futility.
Even Len will tell you that he's not a ham, but you knew that already.

From: on Sat, Sep 23 2006 1:51 pm

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
Opus- wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:19:27 -0400, jawod spake


What a coincidence...I used QRZ's database search engine and found
a blank when I entered "Leonard H. Anderson".

Funny, eh...?!?!

Funny? No.

Stupid? Yes.

I guess the only excercise you ever get is your exercise in futility.
Even Len will tell you that he's not a ham, but you knew that already.

The USMC imposter feels compelled to vent hate against
all who disbelieve him. shrug Never mind that he has
NEVER made available ANY third-party proof of his alleged
18-year USMC career. He feels that everyone "must"
believe his words and never mind any proof.

Back in 1998-1999 on FCC 98-143 ("Reconstruction NPRM)
there DID exist a licensed radio amateur named Leonard
H. Anderson...but his mailing address was in Montana,
not California where I've been since 1956.

When I checked QRZ under AB8O, the bio page was there but
all response data had been deleted. Why I have no idea.
One will have to ask John (AB8O, "Jawod") about that.

Out of curiosity last year ( two years ago?) I did a
Search for my name. It is somewhat common, surname
certainly, given name slightly. Interesting results:

A USMC Major (a real one) with the Navy's Blue Angels
was named Leonard Anderson. :-) Think about that:
USMC, a real commissioned officer, and good enough to
fly as part of the Blue Angels! Kind of beats this
"CAP Captain" posing in a used poopy suit with snot on
his moustache. Poor CAP man is only single-engine
rated yet loved to say he was "pilot in command!" :-)

There was a black actor in an entertainment registry
named Leonard Anderson. Buff, hunky guy maybe 30.
There was a white music teacher named Leonard Anderson,
maybe coming up on 50, not a "hunk" but appreciated by
his school and community.

A quick name search at QRZ this morning turns up three
licensed US radio amateurs named Leonard Anderson, but
none of them have the same middle initial.

Now all that is really irrelevant except to members
of the morseketeers in here, namely Heil. In order not
to offend his apparent sensibilities, one MUST have a
valid amateur radio license in order to talk about
obtaining an amateur radio license! That is to avoid
"telling him what to do!" :-)

NB: NO ONE can tell Heil what to do. He tells all
others what to do. :-)

This is all so hilarious! :-)

wrote:

Now all that is really irrelevant except to members
of the morseketeers in here, namely Heil. In order not
to offend his apparent sensibilities, one MUST have a
valid amateur radio license in order to talk about
obtaining an amateur radio license! That is to avoid
"telling him what to do!" :-)

You don't have an amateur radio license. I have taken no action in
attempting to prevent you from posting here. I have taken no action to
preclude your comments to the FCC. Therefore, your statement is false.
I am not bound to accept your often outrageous statements without
responding. Ridiculing you or laughing at you is not forbidden. Deal
with it.

NB: NO ONE can tell Heil what to do.

You certainly may not tell me what to do. You have no power over me at
all. Deal with it.

He tells all
others what to do. :-)

That, like the balance of your statement above, is an untruth.

This is all so hilarious! :-)

It certainly is, especially when you think that others are laughing
*with* you.