From: on Tues, Oct 3 2006 3:25 pm

wrote:
From: Nada Tapu on Sat, Sep 30 2006 2:23 pm


But you have never been "IN" amateur radio, Len.

Tsk, that old ploy once again...

Now, now, calm down, Jimmie. You have NEVER been IN
the military yet you have NO reservations about
telling all the military and its veterans what to do,
how they should do it, how "wrong" they were in not
doing it as you said it should be done.

Amateur radio "differs" from other radio services
only in man-made regulations and the fantasies of
its licensees. There is NO DIFFERENCE in the basic
physical laws governing radio or radio waves versus
all other radio services.

Electrons, EM fields and waves follow THEIR rules, not
the imaginations of the ARRL and its members...or the
legislations of human law-makers.

If Miccolis' logic is "correct" in who is able to
talk about, govern, regulate, etc. amateur radio,
then the very first amateur licensee and the very
first radio regulating agency have been ILLEGAL from
the start. Id est, the unlicensed would NOT have
been IN amateur radio, therefore they could not do
anything. You see the fallacy of your argument?
[you wouldn't admit it if it came up and bit your
butt]

Your "IN" argument in reference to amateur radio is
therefore not only incorrect, it is nonsense.

You wish to quibble word definitions in order to
score message points and thereby show your alleged
superiority? Id est, one must be "IN" amateur radio
in order to "do" something about it. Nonsense.

In regulations that is also fallacious. None at the
FCC need be licensed "IN" the amateur radio service
in order to REGULATE it or any US civil radio service.
NONE. Not the Commissioners, not any of the staff.
Tsk, tsk, you do not negatively criticize the FCC yet
they are NOT "IN" US amateur radio. Why is that?

Under the Constitution of the United States, citizens
may freely express their desires to the government of
the United States. [the formal wording is "petition
the government for the redress of their grievances"]
That includes ALL laws, legislation thereof, regulations
and rules imposed by the government.

Yet YOU wish to exclude the nearly 299 million citizens
who are NOT amateur radio licensees (your definition of
being "IN" amateur radio is being granted that license)
from doing anything at all except obeyance of YOUR
desires and ONLY those of other amateur licensees.
That is dictatorial, totalitarianism, and general
bull**** 'territory' thinking that is akin to some
neighborhood street gang.

You do not "own" amateur radio nor do you have ANY
qualifications to "rule" on it. You've NEVER been IN
any government regulating agency, indeed never been
IN government, yet you wish to exclude millions just
on YOUR "definition" of who can say what and to whom.