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Mike Reslon September 17th 06 06:15 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.



JC September 17th 06 06:20 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 
Mike Reslon wrote:


Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.


Well, thank God in heaven at least the Iraq war is saved
from extinction.



JC September 17th 06 06:38 PM

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JC wrote:
Mike Reslon wrote:


Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.



Well, thank God in heaven at least the Iraq war is saved
from extinction.



Wowza! Check out the Republican owned Rasmussen Reports
poll that shows Bush's 3-point bounce since his September
11th tear-jerking has dissipated. He's back to 57%
disapproval.

John Slade September 17th 06 06:47 PM

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"Mike Reslon" wrote in message
...
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.



I can't find the story where it says they declared bankruptcy. Where
did you hear it?

John



Mike Reslon September 17th 06 07:05 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

"JC" whined & cried in message
t...
JC wrote //////flushed//////


oh How the liberal loons cry & whine!!!!!!!!





Mike Reslon September 17th 06 07:06 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

"John Slade" wrote in message
...

"Mike Reslon" wrote in message
...
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.



I can't find the story where it says they declared bankruptcy. Where
did you hear it?

John



On Omega One Radio





Mike Reslon September 17th 06 07:10 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 
Democrats talk about 9-11 one day out of the year, on
September 11th. The rest of the year they pretend it
never happened..




Mike Reslon September 17th 06 07:13 PM

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The Democrats accuse Bush of politicizing 9-11. How
soon they forget their shameful actions at the late Senator
Paul Wellstone's funeral. And lets not forget Rosa Park's
funeral. How soon the Democreeps forget! Classic left
wing Democrap hypocrisy!





John Slade September 17th 06 07:29 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

"Mike Reslon" wrote in message
...
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.



I just read the last of this tirade. Who the hell told you the
Democratic party has no ideas? I suggest you watch C-Span and listen to a
debate. Maybe go a few web sites of Democratic lawmakers and read what
legislation they're proposing. Sorry but only the uninformed or untruthful
actually believe that Democratic politicians don't have ideas and aren't
introducing legislation. I have a challenge for you, name one issue the
Democrats have no ideas for.

John



Mike Reslon September 17th 06 07:39 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

"John Slade" wrote in message
...

"Mike Reslon" wrote in message
...
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.



I just read the last of this tirade.

////psycho-babble flushed/////



Your challenge is to complete your G.E.D.



[email protected] September 17th 06 09:17 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

Mike Reslon wrote:
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.


Unintelligent people telling lies? I wouldn't have given it even odds
of success.


an old friend September 17th 06 09:19 PM

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John Slade wrote:
"Mike Reslon" wrote in message



I just read the last of this tirade. Who the hell told you the
Democratic party has no ideas?

listening to them the best of them have no ideas thew rost have BAD
ideas


Retina September 17th 06 10:21 PM

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wrote in message
ups.com...

Mike Reslon wrote:
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.


Unintelligent people telling lies? I wouldn't have given it even odds
of success.
...
Air America, like George Soros, was morally bankrupt from the day it began.



[email protected] September 17th 06 10:24 PM

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Retina wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Mike Reslon wrote:
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.


Unintelligent people telling lies? I wouldn't have given it even odds
of success.
..
Air America, like George Soros, was morally bankrupt from the day it began.


But not financially bankrupt.

Funny thing I heard on NPR about a year ago. They were doing one of
their many fundraisers, complaining that Air America was getting the
donations that should be coming to them.

Hi!!! I got the biggest laugh out of that.

And dems say that Air NPR isn't biased... What a bunch of goofs.


Bhairitu September 18th 06 02:14 AM

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Mike Reslon wrote:
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.


It was a false rumor or a hoax which probably started on a right wing
blog and left egg all over the much deserved faces of O'Reilly,
Limbaugh, and the rest of the losing right babblers.

Dr. Steven Antichrist, PHD September 18th 06 02:50 AM

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Bhairitu wrote:
Mike Reslon wrote:
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.


It was a false rumor or a hoax which probably started on a right wing
blog and left egg all over the much deserved faces of O'Reilly,
Limbaugh, and the rest of the losing right babblers.


I remember when there were supposed to be spider eggs in Bubble Yum.
Apparently (that word again) they graduated to politics, those 13 year
old rumormongers.


peterh5322 September 18th 06 06:36 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 
On 2006-09-17 10:15:21 -0700, "Mike Reslon" said:

Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.


And your statement, Mike, isn't psycho-babble from the right?



JC September 18th 06 07:37 PM

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peterh5322 wrote:
On 2006-09-17 10:15:21 -0700, "Mike Reslon" said:

Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.



And your statement, Mike, isn't psycho-babble from the right?



Relax. He has Bill Clinton's Iraq war to gloat over,
lucky fella. You don't think Clinton has enough on
his mind with his levee failures in New Orleans last
year or with his Kadima bud in Israel wasting
Lebanon again? See what happens when you wait
until the last few months in office to try to
negotiate a Middle East peace? You get a can-do
guy like George Bush who really knows how to
shake things up and get some ackshun. (Watch
out we don't bring dummockrissy to your part
of the world!) No sir. George Bush is a man
who doesn't waste his time reading newspapers
every day.

And it's a good thing al-Qaeda didn't try to take over
Bill Clinton's El Salvador the way they took over
Afghanistan. Otherwise, George Bush, the
most competent president since Herbert Hoover, would
have to order the invasion of Mexico with Bill Clinton's
military and land on the Abraham Lincoln on 5 de mayo
with banners proclaming "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED."
That Bush!

Buncha sore loser Democrats sniffle that Bush
gets all the credit for straightening out Bill
Clinton's mess. Well he deserves all the
credit and on November 7, you can vote to
strengthen his hand.

(Ohmigod. George Bush is down another
point in the Rasmussen Reports poll, and
that's the Republican version! He needs
your help. Make sure he gets it on November
7.)



David Kaye September 18th 06 07:43 PM

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JC wrote:

Relax. He has Bill Clinton's Iraq war to gloat over,
lucky fella. You don't think Clinton has enough on
his mind with his levee failures in New Orleans


George W has been in office for 6 years and has cut way back on
domestic federal spending for infrastructure. You don't think he's to
blame?


JC September 18th 06 07:51 PM

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David Kaye wrote:
JC wrote:


Relax. He has Bill Clinton's Iraq war to gloat over,
lucky fella. You don't think Clinton has enough on
his mind with his levee failures in New Orleans



George W has been in office for 6 years and has cut way back on
domestic federal spending for infrastructure. You don't think he's to
blame?


I have to explain that post? Bush isn't just a bad
president. (Carter, whom I supported, was no success
either.) Bush's cockamamie administration comes
from the deepest pit of hell.

David Kaye September 18th 06 08:28 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 
JC wrote:

I have to explain that post?


Yes. You blamed the New Orleans levee failures on Bill Clinton, yet
these failures happened 5 years into Bush's administration and after a
severe cutback in federal infrastructure funding. I normally don't
respond to your posts because it appears you come from another planet.
But I wasn't going to let this one slip by.


[email protected] September 18th 06 10:37 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

David Kaye wrote:
JC wrote:

I have to explain that post?


Yes. You blamed the New Orleans levee failures on Bill Clinton, yet
these failures happened 5 years into Bush's administration and after a
severe cutback in federal infrastructure funding. I normally don't
respond to your posts because it appears you come from another planet.
But I wasn't going to let this one slip by.


Could it possibly be the cronies Shrub put in charge of FEMA? You have
to wonder how many other posts are filled with the likes of Heckuvajob
Brownie.

This E coli fiasco is a prime example of government that doesn't work.
However, that is the goal of Republicans. They say government doesn't
work, so they do their best not to make it work. It is a self
fulfilling prophecy.


Dr. Steven Antichrist, PHD September 18th 06 11:20 PM

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peterh5322 wrote:
On 2006-09-17 10:15:21 -0700, "Mike Reslon" said:

Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.


And your statement, Mike, isn't psycho-babble from the right?


If so, his quad blew the other three channels.


Dr. Steven Antichrist, PHD September 18th 06 11:22 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

JC wrote:
peterh5322 wrote:
On 2006-09-17 10:15:21 -0700, "Mike Reslon" said:

Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.



And your statement, Mike, isn't psycho-babble from the right?



Relax. He has Bill Clinton's Iraq war to gloat over,
lucky fella. You don't think Clinton has enough on
his mind with his levee failures in New Orleans last
year or with his Kadima bud in Israel wasting
Lebanon again?


What's a Kadima bud? Israel grows weed?


Dr. Steven Antichrist, PHD September 18th 06 11:24 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

David Kaye wrote:
JC wrote:

Relax. He has Bill Clinton's Iraq war to gloat over,
lucky fella. You don't think Clinton has enough on
his mind with his levee failures in New Orleans


George W has been in office for 6 years and has cut way back on
domestic federal spending for infrastructure. You don't think he's to
blame?


For the levees? Theodore Roosevelt may be responsible for all I know.
They were there before any of us here.


Dr. Steven Antichrist, PHD September 18th 06 11:26 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

David Kaye wrote:
JC wrote:

I have to explain that post?


Yes. You blamed the New Orleans levee failures on Bill Clinton, yet
these failures happened 5 years into Bush's administration and after a
severe cutback in federal infrastructure funding. I normally don't
respond to your posts because it appears you come from another planet.
But I wasn't going to let this one slip by.


Here I thought it was a damned old hurricane made them fail. Bush got
out of the limo and personally dynamited them. Who'd have thunk it?


Dr. Steven Antichrist, PHD September 18th 06 11:32 PM

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wrote:
David Kaye wrote:
JC wrote:

I have to explain that post?


Yes. You blamed the New Orleans levee failures on Bill Clinton, yet
these failures happened 5 years into Bush's administration and after a
severe cutback in federal infrastructure funding. I normally don't
respond to your posts because it appears you come from another planet.
But I wasn't going to let this one slip by.


Could it possibly be the cronies Shrub put in charge of FEMA? You have
to wonder how many other posts are filled with the likes of Heckuvajob
Brownie.

This E coli fiasco is a prime example of government that doesn't work.
However, that is the goal of Republicans. They say government doesn't
work, so they do their best not to make it work. It is a self
fulfilling prophecy.


Now he's responsible for bacteria. Damn! I don't like the guy much, but
that's evil or something. Shut up and let the research scientists
conclude what happened, and early clues point to poor, pssibly criminal
farming practices and maybe waste water comtamination. Still they
pulled the products ASAP regardless, just like they pulled ALL THE
AIRPLANES FROM THE SKY September 11, 2001.

That part they get right.


David Kaye September 19th 06 12:37 AM

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wrote:

This E coli fiasco is a prime example of government that doesn't work.


How so? Farms take the cheap way out by providing only the barest of
essentials to their farmworkers. Many farms do not even have
conveniently located outhouses and places to wash the hands. It's
likely that the e coli outbreak came from a farmworker who didn't wash
his hands after defecating. The other likely cause is using human or
animal waste as fertilizer, though it's unlikely because this is
frowned upon by agricultural inspectors.

Interesting that the company that grew the spinach is called "Natural
Selection Farms". Sounds like natural selection at play, definitely.

It would have been nice if the news media would have focused in on this
situation by finding out a little about farming. I watched some videos
of stories from KRON, KPIX, and CNN, and didn't see anything talking
about the *source* of the problem.

Also, our local news media (this is a local or somewhat local story,
having taken place in the Salinas Valley), hasn't told people that
*all* they need to do is cook the spinach! Cook the spinach at at
least 150 degrees (160 to be safe) for 5 minutes, and that's all there
is to it. Or if people are still squeamish about it, bring the water
to a boil for a few minutes (212 degrees).

Why couldn't the local media cover this? It's not rocket science.
Hell, the local news media are better at covering rocket science...


Slow Code September 19th 06 12:50 AM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 
"Mike Reslon" wrote in
:


"John Slade" wrote in message
...

"Mike Reslon" wrote in message
...
Only George Soros's dollars have kept the lights on at
Air America. The wackos from the far looney left have been
unable to sell their lies and trash to the American public.
Air American announced total bankruptcy last week.
Maybe they could hire Dan Rather, Michael Moore, or
Rosie O'Donnell to save them. The Democrat party is
totally devoid of any ideas, save for their extremist leftist
psycho-babble.



I can't find the story where it says they declared bankruptcy.
Where
did you hear it?

John



On Omega One Radio



LOL

SC

Slow Code September 19th 06 12:50 AM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 
JC wrote in
:

David Kaye wrote:
JC wrote:


Relax. He has Bill Clinton's Iraq war to gloat over,
lucky fella. You don't think Clinton has enough on
his mind with his levee failures in New Orleans



George W has been in office for 6 years and has cut way back on
domestic federal spending for infrastructure. You don't think he's to
blame?


I have to explain that post? Bush isn't just a bad
president. (Carter, whom I supported, was no success
either.) Bush's cockamamie administration comes
from the deepest pit of hell.



If Bush is in the deepest pit of hell, it's because he went in to try to
lead you Liberals out of it. President Bush works for all American's, even
stupid liberals like you.

Oops, I shouldn't have said "Stupid liberal", That's redundant.

SC

John Slade September 19th 06 01:16 AM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

"David Kaye" wrote in message
ups.com...
JC wrote:

I have to explain that post?


Yes. You blamed the New Orleans levee failures on Bill Clinton, yet
these failures happened 5 years into Bush's administration and after a
severe cutback in federal infrastructure funding. I normally don't
respond to your posts because it appears you come from another planet.
But I wasn't going to let this one slip by.


He was being sarcastic with that post.

John



JC September 19th 06 01:50 AM

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Slow Code wrote:


If Bush is in the deepest pit of hell, it's because he went in to try to
lead you Liberals out of it. President Bush works for all American's,
even stupid liberals like you.




....works for all American-apostrophe-s!

Maybe there was an implied thing possessed, like "an American's
right not to be embarrassed by his dyslexic president."
Or "played All-American's football in a Texas high school."

ObBook: Truss, _Eats, Shoots & Leaves_



JC September 19th 06 01:52 AM

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David Kaye wrote:
JC wrote:


I have to explain that post?



Yes. You blamed the New Orleans levee failures on Bill Clinton,


(sigh) Actually, I did the very opposite.






Dr. Steven Antichrist, PHD September 19th 06 04:48 AM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 
David Kaye wrote:
wrote:

This E coli fiasco is a prime example of government that doesn't work.


How so? Farms take the cheap way out by providing only the barest of
essentials to their farmworkers. Many farms do not even have
conveniently located outhouses and places to wash the hands. It's
likely that the e coli outbreak came from a farmworker who didn't wash
his hands after defecating. The other likely cause is using human or
animal waste as fertilizer, though it's unlikely because this is
frowned upon by agricultural inspectors.

Interesting that the company that grew the spinach is called "Natural
Selection Farms". Sounds like natural selection at play, definitely.

It would have been nice if the news media would have focused in on this
situation by finding out a little about farming. I watched some videos
of stories from KRON, KPIX, and CNN, and didn't see anything talking
about the *source* of the problem.

Also, our local news media (this is a local or somewhat local story,
having taken place in the Salinas Valley), hasn't told people that
*all* they need to do is cook the spinach! Cook the spinach at at
least 150 degrees (160 to be safe) for 5 minutes, and that's all there
is to it. Or if people are still squeamish about it, bring the water
to a boil for a few minutes (212 degrees).

Why couldn't the local media cover this? It's not rocket science.
Hell, the local news media are better at covering rocket science...


Yeah, RS costs money, RS is dangerous. We know.

How come we don't see 50,000 dead after not holding the lettuce at
Burger King?


Dr. Steven Antichrist, PHD September 19th 06 04:50 AM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

JC wrote:
Slow Code wrote:


If Bush is in the deepest pit of hell, it's because he went in to try to
lead you Liberals out of it. President Bush works for all American's,
even stupid liberals like you.




...works for all American-apostrophe-s!

Maybe there was an implied thing possessed, like "an American's
right not to be embarrassed by his dyslexic president."
Or "played All-American's football in a Texas high school."

ObBook: Truss, _Eats, Shoots & Leaves_


Everybody's a mango-eatin' pussy! Give up already.


Phil Keller September 19th 06 06:00 AM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

Still they
pulled the products ASAP regardless, just like they pulled ALL THE
AIRPLANES FROM THE SKY September 11, 2001.

Not ALL the flights. The Saudis and the Bin Laudin family still got to
fly out of the USA on chartered planes.
phil

[email protected] September 19th 06 11:30 AM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

David Kaye wrote:
wrote:

This E coli fiasco is a prime example of government that doesn't work.


How so? Farms take the cheap way out by providing only the barest of
essentials to their farmworkers. Many farms do not even have
conveniently located outhouses and places to wash the hands. It's
likely that the e coli outbreak came from a farmworker who didn't wash
his hands after defecating.


Perhaps. But look at the number of folks who walk out of a public
restroom without washing their hands... and the water and soap are
right there!

The other likely cause is using human or
animal waste as fertilizer, though it's unlikely because this is
frowned upon by agricultural inspectors.


Sludge. Its use is common enough.

Interesting that the company that grew the spinach is called "Natural
Selection Farms". Sounds like natural selection at play, definitely.

It would have been nice if the news media would have focused in on this
situation by finding out a little about farming. I watched some videos
of stories from KRON, KPIX, and CNN, and didn't see anything talking
about the *source* of the problem.


That would imply guilt...

And saying that spinach comes from farms is called "profiling."

Also, our local news media (this is a local or somewhat local story,
having taken place in the Salinas Valley), hasn't told people that
*all* they need to do is cook the spinach! Cook the spinach at at
least 150 degrees (160 to be safe) for 5 minutes, and that's all there
is to it. Or if people are still squeamish about it, bring the water
to a boil for a few minutes (212 degrees).


Buy canned spinach

Why couldn't the local media cover this? It's not rocket science.
Hell, the local news media are better at covering rocket science...


Because rocket science problems can always be blamed on government.
Spinach problems have to be blamed on farmers, farm workers, or food
workers, though some will make it a government problem. Government is
always bad...


[email protected] September 19th 06 12:45 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

wrote:
David Kaye wrote:
JC wrote:

I have to explain that post?


Yes. You blamed the New Orleans levee failures on Bill Clinton, yet
these failures happened 5 years into Bush's administration and after a
severe cutback in federal infrastructure funding. I normally don't
respond to your posts because it appears you come from another planet.
But I wasn't going to let this one slip by.


Could it possibly be the cronies Shrub put in charge of FEMA? You have
to wonder how many other posts are filled with the likes of Heckuvajob
Brownie.

This E coli fiasco is a prime example of government that doesn't work.
However, that is the goal of Republicans. They say government doesn't
work, so they do their best not to make it work. It is a self
fulfilling prophecy.


http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate...s/15552424.htm

Posted on Tue, Sep. 19, 2006
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Spinach growers were told to improve safety
Current E. coli outbreak not the first linked to California growers
By ANDREW BRIDGES
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON - Federal health officials told California farmers to
improve produce safety in a pointed warning letter last November -
nearly a year before the multistate E. coli outbreak linked to spinach.

In fact, the current food-poisoning episode is the 20th since 1995
linked to spinach or lettuce, the Food and Drug Administration says.

Though state and federal officials have traced the current outbreak to
a California company's fresh spinach, they haven't pinpointed the
source of the bacteria that have killed one person and sickened more
than 100 others.

The FDA is still warning consumers not to eat fresh spinach.

There is no evidence of tampering in the outbreak, FDA spokeswoman
Susan Bro said Monday. That leaves a broad range of other possible
sources, including contaminated irrigation water that's been a
problem in California's Salinas Valley. The area on California's
central coast produces much of the U.S. spinach crop.

There have been 19 other food-poisoning outbreaks since 1995 linked to
lettuce and spinach, according to the FDA. At least eight were traced
to produce grown in the Salinas Valley. The outbreaks involved more
than 400 cases of sickness and two deaths.

In 2004 and again in 2005, the FDA's top food safety official warned
California farmers they needed to do more to increase the safety of the
fresh leafy greens they grow.

"In light of continuing outbreaks, it is clear that more needs to be
done," the FDA's Robert Brackett wrote in a Nov. 4, 2005, letter.

Suggested actions included discarding any produce that comes into
contact with floodwaters. Rivers and creeks in the Salinas watershed
are known to be periodically contaminated with E. coli, Brackett said.

Meanwhile, the FBI is monitoring the situation, said spokesman Rich
Kolko. He called it a routine and precautionary measure, not an
indication of suspicious activity.

The FDA's Bro dismissed a claim by Natural Selection Foods, the
company linked to the outbreak, that its organic spinach products had
been cleared of suspicion.

"The FDA has not cleared any products from the list and continues to
recommend consumers avoid eating fresh spinach products," she said.

Natural Selection has recalled 34 brands of fresh spinach products,
distributed throughout the United States as well as to Canada and
Mexico. The company said the manufacturing codes turned over to health
officials from packages of spinach that had infected patients all were
from non-organic spinach. The company packages both organic and
conventionally grown spinach in separate areas at its San Juan
Bautista, Calif. plant.

The FDA and California Department of Health Services were reviewing
irrigation methods, harvest conditions and other practices at farms
possibly involved.

The spinach could have been contaminated in the field or during
processing. About 74 percent of the fresh-market spinach grown in he
U.S. comes from California, according to the California Farm Bureau
Federation.

E. coli cases linked to the tainted spinach have been reported in 20
states, with Wisconsin reporting the most cases, including the death of
a 77-year-old woman.

The Illinois Department of Public Health said Monday an elderly woman
hospitalized with kidney failure is the state's first confirmed case
in the spinach-linked outbreak. Other states reporting cases were
California, Connecticut, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Michigan,
Minnesota, New Mexico, Nevada, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania,
Utah, Virginia, Washington and Wyoming, according to the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention.


Dr. Steven Antichrist, PHD September 19th 06 12:47 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 

wrote:
David Kaye wrote:
wrote:

This E coli fiasco is a prime example of government that doesn't work.


How so? Farms take the cheap way out by providing only the barest of
essentials to their farmworkers. Many farms do not even have
conveniently located outhouses and places to wash the hands. It's
likely that the e coli outbreak came from a farmworker who didn't wash
his hands after defecating.


Perhaps. But look at the number of folks who walk out of a public
restroom without washing their hands... and the water and soap are
right there!

The other likely cause is using human or
animal waste as fertilizer, though it's unlikely because this is
frowned upon by agricultural inspectors.


Sludge. Its use is common enough.

Interesting that the company that grew the spinach is called "Natural
Selection Farms". Sounds like natural selection at play, definitely.

It would have been nice if the news media would have focused in on this
situation by finding out a little about farming. I watched some videos
of stories from KRON, KPIX, and CNN, and didn't see anything talking
about the *source* of the problem.


That would imply guilt...

And saying that spinach comes from farms is called "profiling."


It didn't come from the maternity ward...don't make a bunch of stupid
allegories!

Government is NOT always bad. They saved your ass just as they've done
millions of times in all the years of your misinformed life, and you
should give them some credit.


JC September 19th 06 03:05 PM

Air America Goes Bankrupt
 
John Slade wrote:
"David Kaye" wrote in message
ups.com...

JC wrote:


I have to explain that post?


Yes. You blamed the New Orleans levee failures on Bill Clinton, yet
these failures happened 5 years into Bush's administration and after a
severe cutback in federal infrastructure funding. I normally don't
respond to your posts because it appears you come from another planet.
But I wasn't going to let this one slip by.



He was being sarcastic with that post.


Heh. The previous poster has the same predilection for going
tut-tut that caused me to add poor Higdon to the kill-file,
although as far as I know, Higdon doesn't imply that he
comes from a different planet. Higdon's thing is, "I do
it too." But it's the censuriousness that becomes
intolerable, and not the fact that he's a copy cat
or comes from Neptune. Common equity demands I add Mr. Kaye.
So, kerplonkity. Watch out, Wattenburg. You're next.










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