Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Slow Code wrote:

Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

A useless ham asks a useless question...

(Other r.r.a... groups removed from my reply to reduce spam as
requested by a real ham who doesn't ask useless questions)

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

I'm relatively new to the group, but I can already tell you're the group
troll.

Having been active in the rec.photo groups for sometime, I understand
trolls, but at least you have a beef with something tangible.

Let's face it. You most likely are one of those who got their General at 13
WPM, maybe their Extra at 20 and hate the no coders and those who got their
license by only taking code at 5WPM. Well, who cares. It's time for you to
accept reality and come to the conclusion, you out lived Morse Code. Get on
with life.

Jim Philopena
KB1NXE - Formerly KA1VGP, DA2PJ and WN1VJW

If you have a Call Book with that last one in it, you have definitely out
live Morse Code - time to get back to ashes and dust.


"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

James Philopena wrote:

If you have a Call Book with that last one in it, you have definitely out
live Morse Code - time to get back to ashes and dust.

Welcome. I've always said that a healthy application of the actuarial
tables will take care of most of the grumblers...

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

On 9/26/06 4:15 PM, in article
et, "Slow Code"
wrote:

Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

No, not at all. There is a lot less cussing, spitting, passing of gas into
the mike, usually no electronic sound effects, and rarely a "10-4 good
buddy." I'd say the average ham has an 80 point higher IQ, than the average
Cber.

Don

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?


If the applicable FCC rules and good amateur operating practice are
followed, it's a real QSO.

Why wouldn't it be?

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

What's a "no-code ham"? All FCC-licensed radio amateurs are allowed to
use Morse Code.

If FCC-licensed amateurs observe FCC regulations and follow good
amateur operating practice, they are "real hams" and their QSOs are
"real QSOs".

If you meant "noncodetested hams", the same criteria apply: If they
observe FCC regulations and follow good amateur operating practice,
they are "real hams" and their QSOs are "real QSOs".

Why wouldn't they be real?

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:15:47 GMT, "James Philopena"
wrote:

I'm relatively new to the group, but I can already tell you're the group
troll.

Having been active in the rec.photo groups for sometime, I understand
trolls, but at least you have a beef with something tangible.

Let's face it. You most likely are one of those who got their General at 13
WPM, maybe their Extra at 20 and hate the no coders and those who got their
license by only taking code at 5WPM. Well, who cares. It's time for you to
accept reality and come to the conclusion, you out lived Morse Code. Get on
with life.
while he refuses to give his call he claims to a 20 wpm extra

He claims to be intelligent like you do, too, Markie, Factual evidence
shows that to be contrary.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

You should make a visit to Terrel Owens pharmacist soon.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Talking to a "no code" is like addressing someone given an honorary degree
as "doctor."

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

"Smokey" wrote in message
...
Talking to a "no code" is like addressing someone given an honorary degree
as "doctor."

How? In that nobody does it? Bad simile, OM.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Huh? Ingles, por favor...no comprehende. Can you communicate in English?


"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
news:veISg.166$gM1.148@fed1read12...


How? In that nobody does it? Bad simile, OM.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

wrote:
On 27 Sep 2006 04:39:17 -0700, "Not Cocksucker Lloyd"
wrote:


wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:15:47 GMT, "James Philopena"
wrote:

I'm relatively new to the group, but I can already tell you're the group
troll.

Having been active in the rec.photo groups for sometime, I understand
trolls, but at least you have a beef with something tangible.

Let's face it. You most likely are one of those who got their General at 13
WPM, maybe their Extra at 20 and hate the no coders and those who got their
license by only taking code at 5WPM. Well, who cares. It's time for you to
accept reality and come to the conclusion, you out lived Morse Code. Get on
with life.
while he refuses to give his call he claims to a 20 wpm extra

He claims to be intelligent like you do, too, Markie, Factual evidence
shows that to be contrary.
lying agin Woger he has made no such claim you always lie woger

You just proved you aren't intelligent, once again, Markie.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

In article ,
says...
Huh? Ingles, por favor...no comprehende. Can you communicate in English?


"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
news:veISg.166$gM1.148@fed1read12...


How? In that nobody does it? Bad simile, OM.





swoooop, right over your head!!!!!!!!!

73

Chris

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

wrote:
On 26 Sep 2006 17:37:25 -0700, wrote:


James Philopena wrote:

If you have a Call Book with that last one in it, you have definitely out
live Morse Code - time to get back to ashes and dust.

Welcome. I've always said that a healthy application of the actuarial
tables will take care of most of the grumblers...
SOON PLEASE

You'll be right in there, Spammer!

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.

AC7PN

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Slow Code wrote:

Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.

They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

In article ,
says...
Slow Code wrote:

Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.

They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!


What if they copy you with a computer?

73

Chris

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.

They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!

How do you know? Just because they aren't licensed doesn't mean they can't
copy CW. My officemate has no license at all but thanks to the military can
probably copy better than I can.

I'm not licensed to do LOTS of things that I can do.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.

They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!


Many use "QSO" as a signifier of a "Voice" contact as well, so "why"
couldn't you have a "QSO" with a "NO CODE" Tech? Now, if the question were a
QSO with one on a band he wasn't licensed to use, then the answer "could" be
NO. BUT - if he has a "Control Operator" there with him to allow his use of
that band, then by all means - the answer is still "yes".

Its all in how it is looked at. Too many people split hairs............

Is anal contact with a no-code ham real hammie sex?
 

no,it must be oral

www.usislands.org
 

wrote:
no,it must be oral
www.usislands.org

If two no-code hams contact each other on CB, is that a real QSO?
 

"AC7PN" wrote in
ups.com:


Slow Code wrote:
Or is it like talking to someone on CB?

SC

The answer is "yes it is a real contact" and so far as you were
communicating with some one using a radio it also is "like talking to
someone on CB."

Dude, your arrogance is showing.

AC7PN


What's wrong with that, if it helps motivate people to be better hams.
Unfortunately, most here don't want better hams.


SC

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Dave wrote:
NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.
They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!

So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Cecil Moore wrote:
Dave wrote:
NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.
They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!

So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
the procoders are more interested in their idleogy than lives always
have been it seems

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Cecil Moore wrote:

Dave wrote:

NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.
They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!


So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.

How does one say mayday on CW? My radio only works on the bottom 25 KHz of the
HF bands.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Dave wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.

How does one say mayday on CW? My radio only works on the bottom 25 KHz
of the HF bands.

Telephony has saved magnitudes more lives than CW.
If you are CW only, you are not properly equipped
to even attempt to save lives.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Cecil Moore wrote:

Dave wrote:

NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.
They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!


So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.

How does one say mayday on CW? My radio only works on the bottom 25 KHz
of the HF bands.


Hmmmmmm - my how we belabor a point. MAYDAY IN CW = SOS............ SOS is
usually sent in those cases. SOS for the CW and Mayday for radiotelephone.
MAYDAY is "also" asked about in some RadioTelephone license exams for
"marine" use and is even becoming part of the Fire service. There is a test
specifically for "Mayday" and its uses. Mayday is "generally" used in
"airplane" emergencies.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

wrote:

SNIPPED

then you are a lying in claiming your radio only work on the bottom 25
khz


http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

NOPE!!

3500 - 3525
7000 - 7025
10.1 - 10.15
14.0 - 14.025
18.068 - 18.110
21.000 - 21.025

That is where they run. That's a fact you can't deny. They have capability that
exceeds my requirements, but that is where they run.

And you still crossed posted to more than r.r.a.m. When are you going to learn?

You don't want to invest time and energy in learning code and YOU STILL CAN'T
FIGURE OUT HOW TO POST TO ONE GROUP.

How does your cross posting ignorance contribute to r.r.a.a?
How does your cross posting ignorance contribute to r.r.a.b?
How does your cross posting ignorance contribute to r.r.a.p?
How does your cross posting prejudice contribute to r.r.s?

We know how your prejudice contributes to r.r.a.m

/s/ DD

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Dave wrote:
wrote:

SNIPPED

then you are a lying in claiming your radio only work on the bottom 25
khz


http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

NOPE!!
stop lying

If two no-code hams contact each other on CB, is that a real QSO?
 

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

wrote in :

How does one say mayday on CW? My radio only works on the bottom 25
KHz of the HF bands.
then you are a porrly equiped ham and should turn your license in for
the good of the ars
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/
I am fairly well equipped: IC-756 Pro III, IC-746, AL-80B amplifier,
ANC-4 noise
canceller, MFJ 1025 Signal enhancer, TS-570D, AMP SUPPLY LK-450
Amplifier, G-707
[2 & 440], plus computer ... and these are the things on my operating
table.


IC-706 MKIIg & AH-4 in the mobile. Plus 2 HTs.
then you are a lying in claiming your radio only work on the bottom 25
khz


WOW Mark,

And you're not even a Real ham.

SC

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Slow Code wrote:
wrote in :

How does one say mayday on CW? My radio only works on the bottom 25
KHz of the HF bands.
then you are a porrly equiped ham and should turn your license in for
the good of the ars
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/
I am fairly well equipped: IC-756 Pro III, IC-746, AL-80B amplifier,
ANC-4 noise
canceller, MFJ 1025 Signal enhancer, TS-570D, AMP SUPPLY LK-450
Amplifier, G-707
[2 & 440], plus computer ... and these are the things on my operating
table.


IC-706 MKIIg & AH-4 in the mobile. Plus 2 HTs.
then you are a lying in claiming your radio only work on the bottom 25
khz


WOW Mark,

And you're not even a Real ham.

There is this pithy little thing I found in the ARRL Handbook:

The Amateur's Code
------------------

The Radio Amateur is

CONSIDERATE...never knowingly operates in such a way as to lessen
the pleasure of others.

LOYAL.........offers loyalty, encouragement and support to other amateurs,
local clubs, and the American Radio Relay League, through
which Amateur Radio in the United States is represented
nationally and internationally.

PROGRESSIVE...with knowledge abreast of science, a well-built and
efficient station and operation above reproach.

FRIENDLY......slow and patient operating when requested; friendly advice
and counsel to the beginner; kindly assistance, cooperation
and consideration for the interests of others.
These are the hallmarks of the amateur spirit.

BALANCED......radio is an avocation, never interfering with duties owed
to family, job, school or community.

PATRIOTIC.....station and skill always ready for service to country and community.

--The original Amateur's Code was written by Paul M. Segal, W9EEA, in 1928.

Kind of old, and flavored a lot like the US was during the time, but
never-the-less, it has some important lessons in behavior and compassion
that seem to be lacking in your vision for the hobby.

-Chuck Harris

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:36:42 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 08:05:16 -0400, Dave wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:

Dave wrote:

NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.
They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!


So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.

How does one say mayday on CW? My radio only works on the bottom 25 KHz
of the
HF bands.
then you are a porrly equiped ham and should turn your license in for
the good of the ars
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/
I am fairly well equipped: IC-756 Pro III, IC-746, AL-80B amplifier,
ANC-4 noise
canceller, MFJ 1025 Signal enhancer, TS-570D, AMP SUPPLY LK-450
Amplifier, G-707
[2 & 440], plus computer ... and these are the things on my operating
table.

What do you use the AL-80B for? You are not licensed to use it.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

U-Know-Who wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:36:42 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 08:05:16 -0400, Dave wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:

Dave wrote:

NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.
They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!


So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.

How does one say mayday on CW? My radio only works on the bottom 25 KHz
of the
HF bands.
then you are a porrly equiped ham and should turn your license in for
the good of the ars
http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/
I am fairly well equipped: IC-756 Pro III, IC-746, AL-80B amplifier,
ANC-4 noise
canceller, MFJ 1025 Signal enhancer, TS-570D, AMP SUPPLY LK-450
Amplifier, G-707
[2 & 440], plus computer ... and these are the things on my operating
table.

What do you use the AL-80B for? You are not licensed to use it.

Looks like Markie going to get a letter from the FCC.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

On 9/29/06 6:07 PM, in article
, "Cecil Moore"
wrote:

Dave wrote:
NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.
They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!

So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.

Clever of you to define a special case after the fact, to show what an ass
you are.

Don

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

On 9/29/06 6:09 PM, in article
, "an old freind"
wrote:


Cecil Moore wrote:
Dave wrote:
NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.
They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!

So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
the procoders are more interested in their idleogy than lives always
have been it seems


Ditto for you clever fellow too.

Is a contact with a no-code ham a real QSO?
 

Don Bowey wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote:

Dave wrote:
NO! I can't have a QSO with a no-code ham.
They can't copy CW!!! So, No QSO!

So you wouldn't respond to a Mayday and save a life?
Nice guy.

Clever of you to define a special case after the fact, ...

Refusing to QSO with anyone on SSB doesn't sound like
a special case - sounds like SOP to me.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

If two no-code hams contact each other on CB, is that a real QSO?
 

A question well stated, Slow Code...
No, it is a telephone conversation. Period. And that is what the whole hobby
will turn into if the self-righteous, lazy whiners get their way and code
is, once and for all, abolished. They all have contributed to the hobby's
deterioration so far and don't like the fact that a few of us have got their
number and can assess them for what they are. What do these simple-minded
idiots think will happen if, as they press forward, they get all testing
removed? The simple fact is that this is all a set up so the frequencies can
be auctioned to non ham interests. The morons in Newington whimper about the
reduced ham population. Geez Louise...there are many times more hams today
(including those with the "faux" ham licenses not requiring code) than in
the post WWII ham "boom." Not enough?

No kids...this whole code thing and the watering down of the test is simply
a matter dividing and conquering so "they" can come in and tell us that our
numbers don't justify the spectrum. Then...pfssssst!!!...there goes one band
after another.

If any of the no coders had any balls they'd be asking the fcc for real
testing and redevelop the hobby into what it used to be instead of the inane
weekend contesting and buffoons sitting there are sideband comparing which
rigs have the most features.

Idiots.




What's wrong with that,
eslewhere you denied being arogant mr 2 faced
if it helps motivate people to be better hams.
Unfortunately, most here don't want better hams.
I certainly do which is why I call for you Steve and woger to turn in
your licenses

please help out ham radio and turn yours in SC


If two no-code hams contact each other on CB, is that a real QSO?

SC