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Nit Picking At It's Worst. Let's Say NO To This ARRL Request
FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE
League Asks FCC to Postpone, Modify Part of 75-Meter Band Change NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 11, 2006 -- In separate petitions today, the ARRL asked the FCC to postpone the change in allocation for 3600 to 3635 kHz while it considers a request to maintain the status quo in the segment. The so-called "omnibus" Report and Order (R&O) in WT Docket 04-140, which included moving the lower edge of the Amateur Extra 75-meter phone band to 3600 kHz, is set to go into effect Friday, December 15. The League wants the Commission to rectify the "unintended consequence" of the expansion by moving the dividing line between the narrowband and wideband segments of 80/75 meters to 3635 kHz. This would keep 3600 to 3635 kHz available to General and higher licensees for RTTY, data and CW and open to Novice and Tech Plus licensees for CW. The requested change also would maintain access to the automatically controlled digital subband, 3620 to 3635 kHz. In a Petition for Reconsideration, the League emphasized that it was not seeking reconsideration of the entire 75-meter phone band expansion. "Rather, we ask only that the Commission restore the privileges unintentionally withdrawn from those who operate and who utilize automatically controlled narrowband digital stations between 3620 and 3635 kHz," the League said. The ARRL pointed out that while the R&O left unchanged rules permitting automatically controlled narrowband digital in that segment, it eliminated RTTY and data as permitted emissions above 3600 kHz. The ARRL also filed a Petition for Partial Stay of Effective Date of Rule pending final action on its reconsideration petition. To justify its far greater-than-requested expansion, the League asserted, the FCC relied on the flawed logic of a handful of commenters who specifically asked for a 3600 to 4000 kHz phone band. Some commenters had made the case during the proceeding that the "CW subband" is vastly underutilized while space for SSB is at a premium. "It affects considerably more than just those two operating modes," the ARRL said of the expansion. "Narrowband RTTY and data modes are increasingly used at 80 meters as well, and substantial numbers of RTTY and data users stand to be displaced, as well as precluded entirely, by the extent of the telephony subband expansion there." The League contends the FCC contradicted itself by saying the rule revisions wouldn't result in any licensee losing spectrum privileges. "But operating privileges have been lost by the extent of the expansion at 80 meters," the reconsideration petition states. The expansion also significantly burdens and adversely impacts CW nets above 3600 kHz -- including emergency and public service nets -- most, if not all, of which will have to cease operating or change frequency, the League added. Most important, however, is the loss of spectrum for automatically controlled digital modes. The ARRL petition cites the comments of several League members decrying the loss of spectrum for PACTOR, CW and RTTY. "The Winlink 2000 system was cited as a best practice by several post-Hurricane Katrina reviews, including the Congressional 'Failure of Initiative' report," remarked ARRL South Texas Section Emergency Coordinator Jerry Reimer, KK5CA. The ARRL says shifting the band edge slightly upward would provide a "simple and equitable fix" to the obvious error in the R&O. "This is neither a minor matter nor an academic exercise in future band planning," the ARRL concluded. "It is an urgent problem which, unless corrected, affects a substantial number of existing Amateur Radio fixed facilities and an even more substantial number of mobile facilities." UNQUOTE This IS a minor matter and it IS an "...academic exercise in future band planning..." The ARRL USUALLY goes out of it's way to get the FCC to allow "Gentleman's Agreements" and other "good Amateur practice" to establish how Amateurs divy up the spectrum. Now it wants the FCC to micomanage spectrum allocations. The whole re-farming episode has been in the mill for three years now, and there's no reason to gunk-up the works at H-Hour. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Let's Say NO To This ARRL Request why steve it is the only code testing will survive anylonger
K4YZ wrote: FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE League Asks FCC to Postpone, Modify Part of 75-Meter Band Change NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 11, 2006 -- In separate petitions today, the ARRL asked the FCC to postpone the change in allocation for 3600 to 3635 kHz UNQUOTE This IS a minor matter and it IS an "...academic exercise in future band planning..." The whole re-farming episode has been in the mill for three years now, and there's no reason to gunk-up the works at H-Hour. as point of fact there is a reason bto delay the FCC geting around to ending Code testing which the FCC says it will deal after this matter is done now the FCC will likely ignore it as they should 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Nit Picking At It's Worst. Let's Say NO To This ARRL Request
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FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE ... 73 Steve, K4YZ As a "political action committee"/"lobbyist group" the arrl has long outlived it usefulness ... JS |
Morkie Proves His Rhetoric About "Talking Radio" Is Just That...Rhetoric....
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Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan.
K4YZ wrote: Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan. if you want to discuss then you need to apologize for your filth |
Morkie Sliming RRAP...Again...
if you want to discuss then you need to apologize for your filth The filth is yours, fatboy. Steve, K4YZ |
Nit Picking At It's Worst. Let's Say NO To This ARRL Request
K4YZ wrote.: FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE League Asks FCC to Postpone, Modify Part of 75-Meter Band Change NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 11, 2006 -- In separate petitions today, the ARRL asked the FCC to postpone the change in allocation for 3600 to 3635 kHz while it considers a request to maintain the status quo in the segment. The so-called "omnibus" Report and Order (R&O) in WT Docket 04-140, which included moving the lower edge of the Amateur Extra 75-meter phone band to 3600 kHz, is set to go into effect Friday, December 15. The League wants the Commission to rectify the "unintended consequence" of the expansion by moving the dividing line between the narrowband and wideband segments of 80/75 meters to 3635 kHz. This would keep 3600 to 3635 kHz available to General and higher licensees for RTTY, data and CW and open to Novice and Tech Plus licensees for CW. The requested change also would maintain access to the automatically controlled digital subband, 3620 to 3635 kHz. In a Petition for Reconsideration, the League emphasized that it was not seeking reconsideration of the entire 75-meter phone band expansion. "Rather, we ask only that the Commission restore the privileges unintentionally withdrawn from those who operate and who utilize automatically controlled narrowband digital stations between 3620 and 3635 kHz," the League said. The ARRL pointed out that while the R&O left unchanged rules permitting automatically controlled narrowband digital in that segment, it eliminated RTTY and data as permitted emissions above 3600 kHz. The ARRL also filed a Petition for Partial Stay of Effective Date of Rule pending final action on its reconsideration petition. To justify its far greater-than-requested expansion, the League asserted, the FCC relied on the flawed logic of a handful of commenters who specifically asked for a 3600 to 4000 kHz phone band. Some commenters had made the case during the proceeding that the "CW subband" is vastly underutilized while space for SSB is at a premium. "It affects considerably more than just those two operating modes," the ARRL said of the expansion. "Narrowband RTTY and data modes are increasingly used at 80 meters as well, and substantial numbers of RTTY and data users stand to be displaced, as well as precluded entirely, by the extent of the telephony subband expansion there." The League contends the FCC contradicted itself by saying the rule revisions wouldn't result in any licensee losing spectrum privileges. "But operating privileges have been lost by the extent of the expansion at 80 meters," the reconsideration petition states. The expansion also significantly burdens and adversely impacts CW nets above 3600 kHz -- including emergency and public service nets -- most, if not all, of which will have to cease operating or change frequency, the League added. Most important, however, is the loss of spectrum for automatically controlled digital modes. The ARRL petition cites the comments of several League members decrying the loss of spectrum for PACTOR, CW and RTTY. "The Winlink 2000 system was cited as a best practice by several post-Hurricane Katrina reviews, including the Congressional 'Failure of Initiative' report," remarked ARRL South Texas Section Emergency Coordinator Jerry Reimer, KK5CA. The ARRL says shifting the band edge slightly upward would provide a "simple and equitable fix" to the obvious error in the R&O. "This is neither a minor matter nor an academic exercise in future band planning," the ARRL concluded. "It is an urgent problem which, unless corrected, affects a substantial number of existing Amateur Radio fixed facilities and an even more substantial number of mobile facilities." UNQUOTE This IS a minor matter and it IS an "...academic exercise in future band planning..." The ARRL USUALLY goes out of it's way to get the FCC to allow "Gentleman's Agreements" and other "good Amateur practice" to establish how Amateurs divy up the spectrum. Now it wants the FCC to micomanage spectrum allocations. The whole re-farming episode has been in the mill for three years now, and there's no reason to gunk-up the works at H-Hour. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Let's Say NO To This ARRL Request
nobodys_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE League Asks FCC to Postpone, Modify Part of 75-Meter Band Change NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 11, 2006 -- In separate petitions today, the ARRL asked the FCC to postpone the change in allocation for 3600 to 3635 kHz UNQUOTE This IS a minor matter and it IS an "...academic exercise in future band planning..." The whole re-farming episode has been in the mill for three years now, and there's no reason to gunk-up the works at H-Hour. as point of fact there is a reason bto delay the FCC geting around to ending Code testing which the FCC says it will deal after this matter is done Hey fatface.... There was NOTHING in the comments about code testing. Pay attention, fatso. Steve, K4YZ |
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wrote: On 12 Dec 2006 11:42:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: stop the cyber vandalism What vandalism? No lies. Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan. that is a lie steve No it's not. Steve, K4YZ |
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an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: wrote: On 12 Dec 2006 11:42:55 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: stop the cyber vandalism What vandalism? No lies. Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan. that is a lie steve No it's not. they you are back to claiming You and I have a sex act together which is a lie You're back to proving that you're incompetent in English comprehension. Steve, K4YZ |
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On 12 Dec 2006 12:00:22 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: wrote: On 12 Dec 2006 11:52:59 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: wrote: they you are back to claiming You and I have a sex act together which is a lie You're back to proving that you're incompetent in English comprehension. "Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan." nope steve you said eat you #### of another mans gentials That's not what I said, fatboy. "Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan." yes it is what you said That is. What YOU said was untruthful. I have never eaten YOUR #### therefore your are lying You've misquoted me AGAIN, fatboy. Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan. exact quote you claim I have eaten YOUR #### Exact proof that you're incompetent in English comprehension. Steve K4YZ |
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The FCC Docket (intentionally or unintentionally?) effectively outlawed modes that previously were legal on 75M, specifically the use of automated data stations. The ARRL petition rightly asks FCC to reconsider and restore this mode to our use on this band. The Man in the Maze QRV from Baboquivari Peak, AZ |
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Nit Picking At It's Worst. Let's Say NO To This ARRL Request Morkie Will Trash A Legitmate Radio Post FOr His Own Sake...Watch...
K4YZ wrote: FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE League Asks FCC to Postpone, Modify Part of 75-Meter Band Change NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 11, 2006 -- In separate petitions today, the ARRL asked the FCC to postpone the change in allocation for 3600 to 3635 kHz while it considers a request to maintain the status quo in the segment. The so-called "omnibus" Report and Order (R&O) in WT Docket 04-140, which included moving the lower edge of the Amateur Extra 75-meter phone band to 3600 kHz, is set to go into effect Friday, December 15. The League wants the Commission to rectify the "unintended consequence" of the expansion by moving the dividing line between the narrowband and wideband segments of 80/75 meters to 3635 kHz. This would keep 3600 to 3635 kHz available to General and higher licensees for RTTY, data and CW and open to Novice and Tech Plus licensees for CW. The requested change also would maintain access to the automatically controlled digital subband, 3620 to 3635 kHz. In a Petition for Reconsideration, the League emphasized that it was not seeking reconsideration of the entire 75-meter phone band expansion. "Rather, we ask only that the Commission restore the privileges unintentionally withdrawn from those who operate and who utilize automatically controlled narrowband digital stations between 3620 and 3635 kHz," the League said. The ARRL pointed out that while the R&O left unchanged rules permitting automatically controlled narrowband digital in that segment, it eliminated RTTY and data as permitted emissions above 3600 kHz. The ARRL also filed a Petition for Partial Stay of Effective Date of Rule pending final action on its reconsideration petition. To justify its far greater-than-requested expansion, the League asserted, the FCC relied on the flawed logic of a handful of commenters who specifically asked for a 3600 to 4000 kHz phone band. Some commenters had made the case during the proceeding that the "CW subband" is vastly underutilized while space for SSB is at a premium. "It affects considerably more than just those two operating modes," the ARRL said of the expansion. "Narrowband RTTY and data modes are increasingly used at 80 meters as well, and substantial numbers of RTTY and data users stand to be displaced, as well as precluded entirely, by the extent of the telephony subband expansion there." The League contends the FCC contradicted itself by saying the rule revisions wouldn't result in any licensee losing spectrum privileges. "But operating privileges have been lost by the extent of the expansion at 80 meters," the reconsideration petition states. The expansion also significantly burdens and adversely impacts CW nets above 3600 kHz -- including emergency and public service nets -- most, if not all, of which will have to cease operating or change frequency, the League added. Most important, however, is the loss of spectrum for automatically controlled digital modes. The ARRL petition cites the comments of several League members decrying the loss of spectrum for PACTOR, CW and RTTY. "The Winlink 2000 system was cited as a best practice by several post-Hurricane Katrina reviews, including the Congressional 'Failure of Initiative' report," remarked ARRL South Texas Section Emergency Coordinator Jerry Reimer, KK5CA. The ARRL says shifting the band edge slightly upward would provide a "simple and equitable fix" to the obvious error in the R&O. "This is neither a minor matter nor an academic exercise in future band planning," the ARRL concluded. "It is an urgent problem which, unless corrected, affects a substantial number of existing Amateur Radio fixed facilities and an even more substantial number of mobile facilities." UNQUOTE This IS a minor matter and it IS an "...academic exercise in future band planning..." The ARRL USUALLY goes out of it's way to get the FCC to allow "Gentleman's Agreements" and other "good Amateur practice" to establish how Amateurs divy up the spectrum. Now it wants the FCC to micomanage spectrum allocations. The whole re-farming episode has been in the mill for three years now, and there's no reason to gunk-up the works at H-Hour. 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Nit Picking At It's Worst. Let's Say NO To This ARRL Request
John Smith wrote: K4YZ wrote: FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE ... 73 Steve, K4YZ As a "political action committee"/"lobbyist group" the arrl has long outlived it usefulness ... JS It's time for the ARRL to butt out. |
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The Man in the Maze QRS from Baboquivari Peak, Arizona |
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