FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE

League Asks FCC to Postpone, Modify Part of 75-Meter Band Change

NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 11, 2006 -- In separate petitions today, the ARRL
asked the FCC to postpone the change in allocation for 3600 to 3635 kHz
while it considers a request to maintain the status quo in the segment.
The so-called "omnibus" Report and Order (R&O) in WT Docket 04-140,
which included moving the lower edge of the Amateur Extra 75-meter
phone band to 3600 kHz, is set to go into effect Friday, December 15.
The League wants the Commission to rectify the "unintended consequence"
of the expansion by moving the dividing line between the narrowband and
wideband segments of 80/75 meters to 3635 kHz. This would keep 3600 to
3635 kHz available to General and higher licensees for RTTY, data and
CW and open to Novice and Tech Plus licensees for CW. The requested
change also would maintain access to the automatically controlled
digital subband, 3620 to 3635 kHz. In a Petition for Reconsideration,
the League emphasized that it was not seeking reconsideration of the
entire 75-meter phone band expansion.

"Rather, we ask only that the Commission restore the privileges
unintentionally withdrawn from those who operate and who utilize
automatically controlled narrowband digital stations between 3620 and
3635 kHz," the League said. The ARRL pointed out that while the R&O
left unchanged rules permitting automatically controlled narrowband
digital in that segment, it eliminated RTTY and data as permitted
emissions above 3600 kHz. The ARRL also filed a Petition for Partial
Stay of Effective Date of Rule pending final action on its
reconsideration petition.

To justify its far greater-than-requested expansion, the League
asserted, the FCC relied on the flawed logic of a handful of commenters
who specifically asked for a 3600 to 4000 kHz phone band. Some
commenters had made the case during the proceeding that the "CW
subband" is vastly underutilized while space for SSB is at a premium.

"It affects considerably more than just those two operating modes," the
ARRL said of the expansion. "Narrowband RTTY and data modes are
increasingly used at 80 meters as well, and substantial numbers of RTTY
and data users stand to be displaced, as well as precluded entirely, by
the extent of the telephony subband expansion there."

The League contends the FCC contradicted itself by saying the rule
revisions wouldn't result in any licensee losing spectrum privileges.
"But operating privileges have been lost by the extent of the expansion
at 80 meters," the reconsideration petition states. The expansion also
significantly burdens and adversely impacts CW nets above 3600 kHz --
including emergency and public service nets -- most, if not all, of
which will have to cease operating or change frequency, the League
added.

Most important, however, is the loss of spectrum for automatically
controlled digital modes. The ARRL petition cites the comments of
several League members decrying the loss of spectrum for PACTOR, CW and
RTTY. "The Winlink 2000 system was cited as a best practice by several
post-Hurricane Katrina reviews, including the Congressional 'Failure of
Initiative' report," remarked ARRL South Texas Section Emergency
Coordinator Jerry Reimer, KK5CA.

The ARRL says shifting the band edge slightly upward would provide a
"simple and equitable fix" to the obvious error in the R&O.

"This is neither a minor matter nor an academic exercise in future band
planning," the ARRL concluded. "It is an urgent problem which, unless
corrected, affects a substantial number of existing Amateur Radio fixed
facilities and an even more substantial number of mobile facilities."

UNQUOTE

This IS a minor matter and it IS an "...academic exercise in future
band planning..."

The ARRL USUALLY goes out of it's way to get the FCC to allow
"Gentleman's Agreements" and other "good Amateur practice" to establish
how Amateurs divy up the spectrum.

Now it wants the FCC to micomanage spectrum allocations.

The whole re-farming episode has been in the mill for three years
now, and there's no reason to gunk-up the works at H-Hour.

73

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE

League Asks FCC to Postpone, Modify Part of 75-Meter Band Change

NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 11, 2006 -- In separate petitions today, the ARRL
asked the FCC to postpone the change in allocation for 3600 to 3635 kHz

UNQUOTE

This IS a minor matter and it IS an "...academic exercise in future
band planning..."


The whole re-farming episode has been in the mill for three years
now, and there's no reason to gunk-up the works at H-Hour.

as point of fact there is a reason bto delay the FCC geting around to
ending Code testing which the FCC says it will deal after this matter
is done

now the FCC will likely ignore it as they should

73

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE
...
73

Steve, K4YZ


As a "political action committee"/"lobbyist group" the arrl has long
outlived it usefulness ...

JS

wrote:
On 12 Dec 2006 04:30:56 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never
know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's
genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan.
these are the words of the "man calcritizing the arrl

I am "calcritizing" the "arrl"...?!?!

WTF is "calcritizing"...?!?!

I'd sue to get the money back for those three college degrees you
keep lying about if I were you...

And Morkie.....

Why do you always prove me right when it comes to discussions on
RRAP?

Here was a perfectly legit Amateur Radio topic and you, AS USUAL,
bust it into a flamefest.

We'll now sit back and watch you spin this into yet another "I Am
A Victim" rant and try to snivvel out from under the rock you've
dropped on yourself.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:

Morkie, I will conceed that you know two things that I will never
know...What it's like to lick my excrement off of another man's
genitals, and the going welfare rates in Michigan.

if you want to discuss then you need to apologize for your filth

if you want to discuss then you need to apologize for your filth

The filth is yours, fatboy.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote.:
FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE

League Asks FCC to Postpone, Modify Part of 75-Meter Band Change

NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 11, 2006 -- In separate petitions today, the ARRL
asked the FCC to postpone the change in allocation for 3600 to 3635 kHz
while it considers a request to maintain the status quo in the segment.
The so-called "omnibus" Report and Order (R&O) in WT Docket 04-140,
which included moving the lower edge of the Amateur Extra 75-meter
phone band to 3600 kHz, is set to go into effect Friday, December 15.
The League wants the Commission to rectify the "unintended consequence"
of the expansion by moving the dividing line between the narrowband and
wideband segments of 80/75 meters to 3635 kHz. This would keep 3600 to
3635 kHz available to General and higher licensees for RTTY, data and
CW and open to Novice and Tech Plus licensees for CW. The requested
change also would maintain access to the automatically controlled
digital subband, 3620 to 3635 kHz. In a Petition for Reconsideration,
the League emphasized that it was not seeking reconsideration of the
entire 75-meter phone band expansion.

"Rather, we ask only that the Commission restore the privileges
unintentionally withdrawn from those who operate and who utilize
automatically controlled narrowband digital stations between 3620 and
3635 kHz," the League said. The ARRL pointed out that while the R&O
left unchanged rules permitting automatically controlled narrowband
digital in that segment, it eliminated RTTY and data as permitted
emissions above 3600 kHz. The ARRL also filed a Petition for Partial
Stay of Effective Date of Rule pending final action on its
reconsideration petition.

To justify its far greater-than-requested expansion, the League
asserted, the FCC relied on the flawed logic of a handful of commenters
who specifically asked for a 3600 to 4000 kHz phone band. Some
commenters had made the case during the proceeding that the "CW
subband" is vastly underutilized while space for SSB is at a premium.

"It affects considerably more than just those two operating modes," the
ARRL said of the expansion. "Narrowband RTTY and data modes are
increasingly used at 80 meters as well, and substantial numbers of RTTY
and data users stand to be displaced, as well as precluded entirely, by
the extent of the telephony subband expansion there."

The League contends the FCC contradicted itself by saying the rule
revisions wouldn't result in any licensee losing spectrum privileges.
"But operating privileges have been lost by the extent of the expansion
at 80 meters," the reconsideration petition states. The expansion also
significantly burdens and adversely impacts CW nets above 3600 kHz --
including emergency and public service nets -- most, if not all, of
which will have to cease operating or change frequency, the League
added.

Most important, however, is the loss of spectrum for automatically
controlled digital modes. The ARRL petition cites the comments of
several League members decrying the loss of spectrum for PACTOR, CW and
RTTY. "The Winlink 2000 system was cited as a best practice by several
post-Hurricane Katrina reviews, including the Congressional 'Failure of
Initiative' report," remarked ARRL South Texas Section Emergency
Coordinator Jerry Reimer, KK5CA.

The ARRL says shifting the band edge slightly upward would provide a
"simple and equitable fix" to the obvious error in the R&O.

"This is neither a minor matter nor an academic exercise in future band
planning," the ARRL concluded. "It is an urgent problem which, unless
corrected, affects a substantial number of existing Amateur Radio fixed
facilities and an even more substantial number of mobile facilities."

UNQUOTE

This IS a minor matter and it IS an "...academic exercise in future
band planning..."

The ARRL USUALLY goes out of it's way to get the FCC to allow
"Gentleman's Agreements" and other "good Amateur practice" to establish
how Amateurs divy up the spectrum.

Now it wants the FCC to micomanage spectrum allocations.

The whole re-farming episode has been in the mill for three years
now, and there's no reason to gunk-up the works at H-Hour.

73

Steve, K4YZ

nobodys_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE

League Asks FCC to Postpone, Modify Part of 75-Meter Band Change

NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 11, 2006 -- In separate petitions today, the ARRL
asked the FCC to postpone the change in allocation for 3600 to 3635 kHz

UNQUOTE

This IS a minor matter and it IS an "...academic exercise in future
band planning..."


The whole re-farming episode has been in the mill for three years
now, and there's no reason to gunk-up the works at H-Hour.

as point of fact there is a reason bto delay the FCC geting around to
ending Code testing which the FCC says it will deal after this matter
is done

Hey fatface....

There was NOTHING in the comments about code testing.

Pay attention, fatso.

Steve, K4YZ

wrote:

apolgize for this and the rest of your filth and try discussing issues

You're the one not discussing issues, Morkie.

I put a perfectly poignant bit on here about Amateur Policy and you
immediately added your "excrement" subject line.

YOU are the filth, fatboy.

YOU proved it.

Steve, K4YZ

wrote:
On 12 Dec 2006 11:34:46 -0800, "K4YZ" wrote:


wrote:

stop the cyber vandalism

No vandalism.

stop the lies

No lies.

apologize for you lie and filth

Lead the way, fatboy...You'v got as lot more to fess up to thatn I
ever thought about!

Steve, K4YZ