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Dave Heil wrote:
...

I don't think anyone cares if an old bunch of grouchy guys have a hobby
of tapping dit-dahs to each other ...

But, when they attempt to force their hobby on others who don't enjoy
it, THERE ARE REAL PROBLEMS WITH THAT!

JS

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Stefan Wolfe wrote:

You missed my point. Psk31 is an example of a computer mode that connects
directly to a PC sound card, like "computer" CW. I did not need to go into
more sophisticated modes to trump your example of electronic CW as being new
millenium high technology. It was a very poor example.

Psk31 is just one a newer mode that is simpler than computer CW and better.

BTW, it is not obsolete. Check 14.070 MHz when the band is open (or not)
when you get a chance.

Anyway, I do not understand your query; are you saying that mp3 is an
"encryption" method? I thought it was an audio codec (like ogg vorbis). Yes,
I am aware that ogg vorbis is open source. Do you wish to change the thread
to discuss audio codecs?

If you intended to discuss encryption as a separate topic, you had better
not be planning on sending "encypted" communications over the bands unless
you are controlling satellite telemetry from your earth station.

Or are you saying that sending audio codecs over the bands is your best
example of new millenium high technology? That is being done right now and
you can buy it pre-packaged in the latest Kenwood rice box if you wish.



You still miss the point. To chat with the OT CW'ers you need to key a
xmitter from either a port on the sound card, usb, serial, or parallel
port on the computer. You also need software to read the code from the
rig through the line in on the computer--AND, (and here is the important
point) this is how you play with the OT's and CW!!!

I mean, it is good for a laugh :)

If you think I use morse for anything but personal amusement, you are
gravely mistaken!

JS

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wrote:
One person's *knowledge* may be less than another's,
depending on what was on the tests at the time.

My 100% score on the Extra exam was an effect of
my knowledge, not the cause of my knowledge.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

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Cecil Moore wrote in news:DLsoh.3912$ji1.2859
@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:

Mike Coslo wrote:
3. The third harmonic of 350 c.p.s. is:

a. 117 c.p.s.
b. 250 c.p.s.
c. 700 c.p.s.
d. 1050 c.p.s.

What's the second overtone? :-)

So what really happened? My guess is that they only *seemed* harder
to those who took them - at the time they took them.

I thought the Conditional exam seemed difficult in 1952
(except for the easy 13 wpm code) and flunked the Conditional
written once when I was 14. 48 years later I aced the Extra
with a grade of 100%. The extra written exam seemed very easy
after a EE degree and 40 years of engineering experience. :-)
But in 2000, 20 wpm seemed difficult. Go figure.

Cecil, DId you get that license at an really early age? You were
licensed as a Conditional 2 years before I was born! I've seen the
picture of you on your bike, and you don't look that old..

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in
:

John Kasupski wrote in
:

On 7 Jan 2007 12:45:29 -0800, wrote:

Why should anyone think that riding a Harley is better - or that much
different -
than driving a Honda?

The guy down the street from me has a 1957 Panhead. I don't know
anybody who has a 1957 Honda. That's because as I type this, I'm
drinking my Pepsi out of the '57 Honda.

John Kasupski, KC2HMZ



I just read a review of a 1957 Riuko that is still on the road.
Granted, that's a copy of a Harley, but it was made in Japan. I didn't
think Honda had entered the US market by 1957, but I'm sure there are
still some '60s Honda motorcycles out there somewhere.

Myself, I owned a Suzuki, a Kawasaki and a couple of Yamahas, but no
Hondas, Harleys or even Riukos.


1957 was a banner year for Honda. That was when they produced their
first 2 cylinder motor under the Dream moniker.

I've owned a Honda 90, Suzuki 100 dualrange, a Honda SL 350, two
Yamaha XS 350's, a Montesa VR 250, and one really exotic - a Rickman
Zundapp.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -

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Mike Coslo wrote:
Cecil, DId you get that license at an really early age? You were
licensed as a Conditional 2 years before I was born! I've seen the
picture of you on your bike, and you don't look that old..

You're too kind, Mike. I became a member of the
Old Old Timer's Club 15 years ago. I've been a
ham for 55 years.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

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Cecil Moore wrote:

You're too kind, Mike. I became a member of the
Old Old Timer's Club 15 years ago. I've been a
ham for 55 years.

Cecil:

Enough!

Quit rubbing it in!

joints creaking!
JS

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Cecil Moore wrote:

Stefan Wolfe wrote:
I personally ignore computer CW...

I personally ignore any electronically assisted CW.
I don't see much difference between an electronic
keyer and a PC.

Ignoring someone because of how their CW is generated is just as prejudiced as
ignoring someone because they didn't have to pass a code test...

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Cecil Moore wrote:
Stefan Wolfe wrote:
I personally ignore computer CW...

I personally ignore any electronically assisted CW.
I don't see much difference between an electronic
keyer and a PC. Some hams had the audacity to use
electronic keys on straight key night.

Personally, I have a problem breaking over ~80+ WPM CW ...

.... that is as fast as I can type :(

But, brightside to this is, I can copy faster, right up 'till the di's
overrun the dahs!

Regards,
JS