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Old January 31st 07, 10:23 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:35:49 GMT, Dave Heil
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Leo wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:35:02 GMT, Dave Heil
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Leo wrote:
On 29 Jan 2007 23:08:00 -0800, "
wrote:

From: Bob Brock on Mon, Jan 29 2007 11:10 pm

On 29 Jan 2007 16:44:02 -0800, " wrote:
On Jan 29, 3:32?pm, Dave Heil wrote:
KH6HZ wrote:
"Bob Brock" writes:
In response to "Dee Flint" :
snip
Poor Heil doesn't
realize he's been controlled every time he tries to
control others! :-) Gotta love it...! :-)
Right on. Jim and I had a long, long thread going quite some time ago
on this very subject ("Owned or free...", IIRC) whereby I attempted to
point this very fact out to him. And still, many months later, he
continues to correct, proclaim and argue, often in multiple posts
daily. Regardless of how quixiotic this pursuit is, the good fight
must be fought!
You're a selective reader, "Leo". Good old Mr. Wilson, er Len saw my
post about Tandy/Radio Shack gobbling up Allied electronics and had to
attempt to dazzle me with his expertise. A lengthy treatise including
his having been around when Allied came into existence followed.


I'd tend to agree, "Dave", if this was an isolated post that was
hijacked by mean 'ol Len.


Silly ol' Len leapt in with keyboard blazing. Silly ol' Len needed to
exhibit his expertise on matters dealing with Allied Electronics. The
only problem he had is that was short on information.


That was of paramount importance - many future generations of usenet
Googlers will pay homage to you for pointing that out to all with such
elegance and aplomb!

Hear, hear!


By the way, my name is Dave. We don't know that yours is Leo.


"We"? The OCD was a bit obvious - there aren't multiple personalities
in there too, are there? ("Daves"?)

It isn't, though - is it? See a pattern?


Isolated post? It doesn't matter to Len. I have seen a pattern in his
behavior, "Leo".


You certainly have - every time you post a follow up to one of Len's
posts!


I'll bet you don't!

Yessir, Len's a regular puppeteer.


He sure is!


Not.


Whatever you think, "Daves"!


Dave K8MN


73, Leo
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Leo wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:35:49 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

Leo wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:35:02 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

Leo wrote:
On 29 Jan 2007 23:08:00 -0800, "
wrote:

From: Bob Brock on Mon, Jan 29 2007 11:10 pm

On 29 Jan 2007 16:44:02 -0800, " wrote:
On Jan 29, 3:32?pm, Dave Heil wrote:
KH6HZ wrote:
"Bob Brock" writes:
In response to "Dee Flint" :
snip
Poor Heil doesn't
realize he's been controlled every time he tries to
control others! :-) Gotta love it...! :-)
Right on. Jim and I had a long, long thread going quite some time ago
on this very subject ("Owned or free...", IIRC) whereby I attempted to
point this very fact out to him. And still, many months later, he
continues to correct, proclaim and argue, often in multiple posts
daily. Regardless of how quixiotic this pursuit is, the good fight
must be fought!
You're a selective reader, "Leo". Good old Mr. Wilson, er Len saw my
post about Tandy/Radio Shack gobbling up Allied electronics and had to
attempt to dazzle me with his expertise. A lengthy treatise including
his having been around when Allied came into existence followed.
I'd tend to agree, "Dave", if this was an isolated post that was
hijacked by mean 'ol Len.


Silly ol' Len leapt in with keyboard blazing. Silly ol' Len needed to
exhibit his expertise on matters dealing with Allied Electronics. The
only problem he had is that was short on information.


That was of paramount importance - many future generations of usenet
Googlers will pay homage to you for pointing that out to all with such
elegance and aplomb!


It seemed important enough for him to post his usual insulting crap,
"Leo". I'm sure that future generations will learn a great deal about
amateur radio from the misinformation and disinformation put forth by
Leonard H. Anderson.

Hear, hear!


By the way, my name is Dave. We don't know that yours is Leo.


"We"? The OCD was a bit obvious - there aren't multiple personalities
in there too, are there? ("Daves"?)


There are other readers of the newsgroup who don't know you to be Leo,
"Leo". I am Dave and my amateur radio callsign is K8MN. Drop me a line
at and see who responds, "Leo". You're still sniping
anonymously.

It isn't, though - is it? See a pattern?

Isolated post? It doesn't matter to Len. I have seen a pattern in his
behavior, "Leo".


You certainly have - every time you post a follow up to one of Len's
posts!


Did you see the pattern when Len followed up my post with his
misinformation?

I'll bet you don't!

Yessir, Len's a regular puppeteer.
He sure is!

Not.


Whatever you think, "Daves"!


It certainly appears that the puppet master is doing the dancing and
that the supposed puppets are calling the tune, "Leo".

Dave K8MN
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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:37:28 GMT, Dave Heil
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Leo wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:35:49 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

Leo wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:35:02 GMT, Dave Heil
wrote:

Leo wrote:
On 29 Jan 2007 23:08:00 -0800, "
wrote:

From: Bob Brock on Mon, Jan 29 2007 11:10 pm

On 29 Jan 2007 16:44:02 -0800, " wrote:
On Jan 29, 3:32?pm, Dave Heil wrote:
KH6HZ wrote:
"Bob Brock" writes:
In response to "Dee Flint" :
snip
Poor Heil doesn't
realize he's been controlled every time he tries to
control others! :-) Gotta love it...! :-)
Right on. Jim and I had a long, long thread going quite some time ago
on this very subject ("Owned or free...", IIRC) whereby I attempted to
point this very fact out to him. And still, many months later, he
continues to correct, proclaim and argue, often in multiple posts
daily. Regardless of how quixiotic this pursuit is, the good fight
must be fought!
You're a selective reader, "Leo". Good old Mr. Wilson, er Len saw my
post about Tandy/Radio Shack gobbling up Allied electronics and had to
attempt to dazzle me with his expertise. A lengthy treatise including
his having been around when Allied came into existence followed.
I'd tend to agree, "Dave", if this was an isolated post that was
hijacked by mean 'ol Len.


Silly ol' Len leapt in with keyboard blazing. Silly ol' Len needed to
exhibit his expertise on matters dealing with Allied Electronics. The
only problem he had is that was short on information.


That was of paramount importance - many future generations of usenet
Googlers will pay homage to you for pointing that out to all with such
elegance and aplomb!


It seemed important enough for him to post his usual insulting crap,
"Leo". I'm sure that future generations will learn a great deal about
amateur radio from the misinformation and disinformation put forth by
Leonard H. Anderson.

Hear, hear!


By the way, my name is Dave. We don't know that yours is Leo.


"We"? The OCD was a bit obvious - there aren't multiple personalities
in there too, are there? ("Daves"?)


There are other readers of the newsgroup who don't know you to be Leo,
"Leo".


Kind of you to step up and speak for them all, "Daves".

I am Dave and my amateur radio callsign is K8MN. Drop me a line
at and see who responds, "Leo". You're still sniping
anonymously.


Odd that you would consider this interchange "sniping" - if I agreed
with you, would it become a "conversation"? Sure would!

And no, the definition of anonymous is "having no known name " -
mine's Leo! Whether you believe that or not is completely irrelevant
to me.

Should I prefer to communicate with K8MN, I would use the ham bands to
do so (where your callsign, and mine, are both relevant and required
by law). But you're not there - you're here! Usenet ain't radio, OM.


It isn't, though - is it? See a pattern?
Isolated post? It doesn't matter to Len. I have seen a pattern in his
behavior, "Leo".


You certainly have - every time you post a follow up to one of Len's
posts!


Did you see the pattern when Len followed up my post with his
misinformation?


I certainly did - just the right bait to draw you to the lure. Works
on Jim, too, because he cannot resist. Every time - without fail!

Now there's a pattern if I ever saw one.......


I'll bet you don't!

Yessir, Len's a regular puppeteer.
He sure is!
Not.


Whatever you think, "Daves"!


It certainly appears that the puppet master is doing the dancing and
that the supposed puppets are calling the tune, "Leo".


Whatever you say, "Daves" - you're obviously in complete control!


Dave K8MN


73, Leo
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On Feb 1, 5:01�pm, Leo wrote:

Did you see the pattern when Len followed up my post with his
misinformation?


I certainly did - just the right bait to draw you to the lure. *Works
on Jim, too, because he cannot resist. *Every time - without fail!


That's demonstrably untrue, "Leo".

But you will not admit it.


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On 1 Feb 2007 15:40:19 -0800, wrote:

On Feb 1, 5:01?pm, Leo wrote:

Did you see the pattern when Len followed up my post with his
misinformation?


I certainly did - just the right bait to draw you to the lure. orks
on Jim, too, because he cannot resist. very time - without fail!


That's demonstrably untrue, "Leo".

But you will not admit it.


Please demonstrate!

73, Leo



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On Feb 1, 7:42�pm, Leo wrote:
On 1 Feb 2007 15:40:19 -0800, wrote:

On Feb 1, wrote:


Did you see the pattern when Len followed up my post with his
misinformation?


I certainly did - just the right bait to draw you to the lure. *Works
on Jim, too, because he cannot resist. *Every time - without fail!


That's demonstrably untrue, "Leo".


But you will not admit it.


Please demonstrate!

It's already been demonstrated many times, "Leo".

K8MN wrote:

"Did you see the pattern when Len followed up my post with his
misinformation?"

Which is exactly what Len does: posts misinformation (factual errors).

And you ("Leo") replied:

"I certainly did - just the right bait to draw you to the lure."

Which is saying that Len *intentionally* posts misinformation. Some
would call that "lying", btw.

Then you wrote:

"Works on Jim, too, because he cannot resist. Every time - without
fail!"

Note that last sentence:

"Every time - without fail!"

All you have to do is to look up Len's postings here for the past six
months or so. Note how many factual errors he has made in those
postings.

Then note how few of his factual errors I have actually challenged/
corrected here.

Therefore, your claim of

"Every time - without fail!"

has already been demonstrated to be false.

Len gets so upset over those few corrections...imagine if I did
challenge/correct each and every one of his factual errors here.

There's your demonstration.

Len won't be part of a moderated newsgroup, because they won't put up
with his behavior. His predictions of how the moderators will behave
are clearly nothing more than projections of *his* behavior as a BBS
moderator. IOW, if Len couldn't be impartial, nobody else can.

And Len won't be part of rrap much longer either.

So it's really a moot point, "Leo".

73 de Jim, N2EY

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On 3 Feb 2007 14:51:23 -0800, wrote:

On Feb 1, 7:42?pm, Leo wrote:
On 1 Feb 2007 15:40:19 -0800, wrote:

On Feb 1, wrote:


Did you see the pattern when Len followed up my post with his
misinformation?


I certainly did - just the right bait to draw you to the lure. orks
on Jim, too, because he cannot resist. very time - without fail!


That's demonstrably untrue, "Leo".


But you will not admit it.


Please demonstrate!

It's already been demonstrated many times, "Leo".

K8MN wrote:

"Did you see the pattern when Len followed up my post with his
misinformation?"

Which is exactly what Len does: posts misinformation (factual errors).

And you ("Leo") replied:

"I certainly did - just the right bait to draw you to the lure."

Which is saying that Len *intentionally* posts misinformation. Some
would call that "lying", btw.


Some might call that "the lure"....


Then you wrote:

"Works on Jim, too, because he cannot resist. Every time - without
fail!"

Note that last sentence:

"Every time - without fail!"

All you have to do is to look up Len's postings here for the past six
months or so. Note how many factual errors he has made in those
postings.


Factual errors according to whom? With reference to what source?

In other words, who judges what is fact and what is fiction?

You wouldn't happen to have a total handy, would you? It would save a
lot of time looking them all up again!


Then note how few of his factual errors I have actually challenged/
corrected here.


....if you would be so kind as to provide a total of these too, it
would be appreciated! Specifics would be nice, too.


Therefore, your claim of

"Every time - without fail!"

has already been demonstrated to be false.


Not yet - unless you have a specific example in mind - your statement
is simply conjecture.


Len gets so upset over those few corrections...imagine if I did
challenge/correct each and every one of his factual errors here.


I'll bet he'd be crushed!


There's your demonstration.


Where's my demonstration? Other than vague references to posts over
the past six months, you have presented nothing here to substantiate
your claim.


Len won't be part of a moderated newsgroup, because they won't put up
with his behavior. His predictions of how the moderators will behave
are clearly nothing more than projections of *his* behavior as a BBS
moderator. IOW, if Len couldn't be impartial, nobody else can.


Moderated newsgroups are no fun, Jim. Just a form of censorship
imposed on others by those who like censorship. A moderated group
would not suit your purpose either! Where else could you go but here
to fulfil that pathological need of yours to publicly 'right all
wrongs'?

Didn't one of the 'regulars' on this group announce with great fanfare
that they were leaving RRAP to join a private BBS where they would not
have to be subjected to the indignities of daily life here? And
encourage everyone to join them?

Guess it wasn't much fun all alone over there - they came back!

You never left to join them in that digital Nirvana, though - ever
wonder why?


And Len won't be part of rrap much longer either.


Didn't you just finish regaling us all how all Len does is
intentionally post misinformation?

Did the statement that Len will shortly be leaving the newsgroup not
come from Len himself?

How did you come to the conclusion that this was fact and not
misinformation? That's magical!


So it's really a moot point, "Leo".


Perhaps....

73 de Jim, N2EY


73, Leo
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