From: Dave Heil on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:16:22 GMT

wrote:

As of 5 Feb 07 the above is unfortunately true in here.

With a couple of exceptions (Dee and Hans Brakob of
the past), and some mentions by a few "non-regulars,"
all the "regulars" have degenerated into their old
habits of putting themselves on their self-built
pedestals and sneering at others "not as good as
They."

...except that your pronouncement isn't true.

Incorrect, faulty, mistaken. Your whole reply is a
REAFFIRMATION of what I wrote. :-)

There are precious few
potential radio amateurs appearing here.

Incorrect, faulty, mistaken...except for "precious."

The standout in here was Val Germann of Missouri,
making "precious" noises about morse code. Germann
has yet to upgrade from Tech.

"Precious" can be applied to a pair of cute 4-year-olds
who each got an amateur radio license in 1998.

You have haunted this
newsgroup for over a decade without bothering to take an amateur radio
licensing exam, much less to pass one.

A newsgroup is NOT amateur radio. No "license" is needed
to either read or post in a newsgroup.

You have NO AUTHORITY to demand all in here be licensed
for anything.

You aren't a new amateur radio
op and you aren't likely to become one.

I haven't been a "new" radio operator since 1953.

I was granted a COMMERCIAL radio operator license 50 years
ago...it is still on record although the FCC modified all
three Radiotelephone Operator classes into on General class
about 1985. Look it up in the FCC ULS if you must.

You cannot foretell the future. No human has proven to be
prescient. What you blurt out is nothing but a rude and
insulting remark.

Your posting style is full of insults and rudeness.

Incorrect. I am direct, sometimes terse, and do not
back down from rude, insulting control-freaks who
love not radio but just to shove others around.

As you have found, you reap what you sow.

The only thing I've sown is some grass seed. That came up
nicely. The California Pocket Gophers in this neighbor-
hood attempted to eat it from below. They were gassed.

The only "sow" encountered in the last decade have been
some transgendered porcine types who thought they were
gods of radio and attempted pushing many of us NCTA
around.

That's the self-serving selfishness John
speaks of.

You aren't a licensed radio amateur.

Quite true. I am a LICENSED COMMERCIAL (professional)
radio operator. The FCC said I was.

Everyone who does not have an amateur radio license
is not licensed in the amateur radio service. Of
course. Obvious. You are being very redundant.
As well as rotund. Going in circles, nowhere.

Your posts are certainly self-serving.

No. My computer(s) have no AI capability. They won't
serve me anything. All they do is act like computers.

I've never heard of self-serving selfishness.

That was a FIGURE OF SPEECH, Herr Pedant. Everytime I
use a figure of speech, you pedant in your pants.

The best they can do is mouth old, trite phrases used in the 1930s.

...while you use the same, tired Stephen Wright jokes over and over.

I do not know of this "Stephen Wright." For what it is
worth, I am also a paid joke writer selling only ORIGINAL
material. Would you like to see my AFTRA card?


Your boast of getting that "Extra right out of the box" is itself seven
years old. Your first post to this newsgroup took place over ten years
ago.

Irrelevant. I did not "boast" anything. That is your
FABRICATION.

My first post in any computer-modem venue took place in
the first week of December, 1984. That was 22 years ago
(and a fraction).

In the period of 7 years, one can conceive a child, teach
it all about morse code and English language comprehension
sufficient to score correct written answers on an amateur
radio test, get their picture published by the ARRL, then
enter kindergarten. Have you done this? Has Miccolis
done this?

Have you EVER treated a human being in a friendly manner
without ordering them around? There is "precious" little
evidence of that in here...other than with a few like-
minded morse-inflated ego types.


You failed to mention your behavior here--the behavior which allows you
to heap abuse on others without expecting it in return.

Incorrect, Mistaken, False. You do not understand true
debate and the exchange of opinions. You don't because
you've never attempted to do that. What you EXPECT is
gratuitous "congratulations" and the mistaken notion of
innate "respect" you think is owed you...just because you
once passed the highest-rate morse code exam and some
extra questions.

I am quite used to your type of personality, one of the
self-inflated ego-driven variety. I've been immersed
in social interaction with your kind all of my adult life.
I've survived none the worse for wear...yet you are the
bitter fabricator, the sore loser personified over a
very recent federal agency decision and ruling.

In regard to your failure to achieve an amateur radio license, you
declared an interest in amateur radio spanning decades.

Incorrect, Mistaken, Faulty. YOU fabricated some specialized
"interest" out of my (several) statements expressing an
interest in radio-electronics.

I've explained of how my interest in radio came about
as an adult: A fortuitous assignment to a large HF
communications station while in the US Army. None of
that involved "amateur radio."

You've posted
to an amateur radio interest newsgroup for better than a decade.

I've written and edited in an amateur radio magazine
over a decade before that. I've written letters on
the advocacy of eliminating the morse code test. My
advocacy in this newsgroup has been to eliminate the
code test for an amateur radio license. That was
stated out in the open in here during that whole
decade. I have several friends who have been licensed
radio amateurs for much longer than a decade, much
longer than several decades.

You've
boasted that you would obtain the highest class U.S. amateur radio
license "right out of the box" in a statement made seven years ago.

I have not "BOASTED." That is your fabrication. I
made a statement that I "could" based on the amateur
radio written tests of that time.

If all you have to attempt discrediting me is some
FABRICATIONS, then

Have you acted on obtaining that or any amateur radio license?

I am not an actor and don't play one on TV. I've
only done voice-overs. Would you like to see my
AFTRA card? :-)

[my Commercial First 'Phone granted in 1956 is somehow
cast aside in their personal vendettas and vitriol]
Hey, no sweat, I've heard all of that acidity long
before. Doesn't faze me.

Your commercial First Phone ticket is not an amateur radio license.

I've never said it was anything but a "First Class
Radiotelephone (Commercial) Radio Operator License"
to quote the FCC on my first certificate of that, or
the colloquial "First 'Phone."

This is not a commercial radio newsgroup.

Yet all can see the usual subliminal ads for the ARRL in
the Believers' evangelical parroting of their words and
phrases. [St. Hiram be praised]

A commercial license is "cast
aside" by the FCC with regard to the obtaining of an amateur radio
license.

The FCC has NEVER "cast aside" my First 'Phone nor
subsequent GROL. It is still in the FCC URL records
and still current.

The requirements for an amateur radio license are all
explained in Title 47 C.F.R. Part 97.501 and following.
The requirements for commercial radio operator
licenses are given in regulations of Title 47 C.F.R.
Part 13. Do you understand these instructions as they
have been explained to you? If not, the court will
appoint an attorney to assist you.

You would have to meet the same amateur radio licensing
requirements as anyone else before you'd be issued an amateur license.

I've not said anything to the contrary. The LAW is
quite clear enough on the issue of civil US radio.
You seem confused as to the differences of LAW and
your imaginings.

YOU are NOT any law official. You are merely officious.


I'll try to make this as uncomplicated as I can, Len:
You would be able to operate an amateur radio station in the amateur bands.

I am quite able to "operate an amateur radio station."
With or without a license. You failed (once more) to
make your point that it would be ILLEGAL to operate
AS IF one were a licensed radio amateur if no US amateur
radio license had been granted to that operator.

Any radio operator license does NOT automatically
ENABLE anyone to "operate an amateur radio station."
ABILITY of anyone to "operate an amateur radio station"
has nothing at all to do with licensing. The license
is merely an AUTHORIZATION by the US federal government
to operate. Do you understand the definition as it has
been explained to you? If not, the court will appoint
a dictionary to assist you.

As they said in the TV control booth, "Take Black."
In this case "Black's Law Dictionary." :-)


As interesting as I find your statement, one who expresses interest in
amateur radio, haunts an amateur radio newsgroup and boast that he is
going to get the top license immediately must have found a reason to
obtain an amateur radio license.

No "BOAST" was ever made. I do not "HAUNT." I may
PLAY at being a ghost on Halloween...and have. Boooo!

I "express an interest" in ALL radio. So much so
that I made electronics and radio a life career early-
on, despite having an aptitude for (called "talent")
and experience IN commercial illustration ("art" where
the artist draws/paints/inks things as they really are).

Why do YOU attempt constant "haunting" of anyone who
does not agree with your mighty claims and boasts of
"radio operation" to/from faraway lands?

Why not tell us what you perceived your need to be?

Why indeed? Have you understood my previous explanations
as I've explained them to you? If not, the court will
appoint a psychiatrist to assist you.


You could live in a gated community with country club privileges.

I live (in the southern house) back-yard to back-yard
with a gated community called "Montelena." 44 homes
built on 15 acres of what was undeveloped wilderness.
That community has NO "country club" there.

You
could wear Gucci loafers and sip Campari in an ultra-expensive night
spot.

? Is that one of your "requirements" for amateur radio?

Strange. Strange.

You cold live in an area which fights tooth and nail to prevent
zoning changes which would change the neighborhood or you could belong
to that very exclusive group of newsgroup crackpots which plagues groups
in which it does not participate.

Are you suffering from a plague? See medical assistance as
soon as possible!

Are you suffering from plaque? Seek dental assistance as
soon as possible.

"Fighting tooth and nail?" No nails were used in the attempt
to change a local zoning board ruling, just the democratic
processes of the neighborhood getting together (also meeting
at the local church), petitioning, then speaking before the
zoning commission in public. Neither were "teeth" involved.
See your dentist regularly for better oral hygience. That
will help keep your dentures in place when you snarl and
grimace so much. Especially when you boil over and shout.

That SINGLE LOCAL zoning incident resulted in a change from
residential single-family homes to residential multiple
family (apartments, condos, etc) homes. The gated community
you and Miccolis refer to is the "Montelena" I mentioned
above...which has only single-family homes now. Nothing
whatsoever in that alleged "tooth and nail" debate involved
any "radio" subjects, not even TV cable or satellite down-
link, certainly not amateur radio antenna installations.

Now, if your parroting Miccolis MANUFACTURED moral-ethical
"fault" would stop we might all learn to get along. That was
NOT a "radio" issue of any kind. It had absolutely NOTHING
to do with "radio," either amateur or commercial. Do you
understand those explanations as they have been given you?
If not the court will appoint a two-by-four to lay across
your head at no cost to you.


Then you might have misdirected your haunting of newsgroups.

Tsk. You don't have a ghost of a chance of understanding
anything but "professional amateurism," do you? :-)


It isn't up to you to worry over someone who uses his amateur radio
callsign, Len.

NO "worrying" was done. :-) A high degree of persistence
in advocacy of eliminating the morse code test from
license testing done over a period greater than two
decades was done. That was just a POLITICAL matter that
was finally settled by FCC 06-178 released on 15 Dec 06.
Do you understand those explanations as they've been
explained to you? If not the court will appoint someone
of sound mind to attempt making you understand.

You aren't involved.

Yes, I was quite involved. FCC 06-178 resulted on the
part of thousands who "involved" themselves in making
their lawful comments to the US federal government.
The code test for any class amateur radio license in the
USA will be GONE very soon. Do you understand FCC
Reports and Orders as they've been explained to you?
If not, the court will appoint a federal attorney to
explain the Consitution of the US and basic civics to
you.

Your plaintive cries over pretend
significance and enlarged egos are those of an outsider shouting, "but
look at what I've done!"

I've never worked Frenchmen out of band. I've never had
to "synchronize teleprinters" by means of on-off keying
morse code in the 1980s. I've never served in the State
Department and bragged about BEING "DX."

Your continuing PRETENSE at being a near-equivalent god of
radio through amateurism has been duly noted. By all
readers of this newsgroup.


You are able to have all of the fun you are capable of having by
tinkering with electronics.

"Tinkering?" :-) A working career that included duties
of responsible project engineer is just "tinkering?!?" :-)

That isn't amateur radio, but why let that
bother you?

"Amateur" is a regulatory definition of one who engages
in an activity WITHOUT monetary compensation. That is
ALSO the definition of a HOBBY. HOBBY.

LICENSED amateur radio is what you should have written.
LICENSED, AUTHORIZED by the only civil radio regulatory
agency of the United States government. Have you under-
stood the definitions as they were explained to you?
If not, the court may appoint a bailiff to place you
under arrest until medical science has come up with an
explanation for your serious mental confusion.

Lots of folks who aren't radio amateurs enjoy electronics.

...and you think ALL of them are monetarily compensated if
they do not have federal authorization to transmit RF on
certain bands with certain modulation modes according to
federal regulations? Not so.

See? That is your extreme CONFUSION. You mistakenly
label "radio amateurs" as ONLY the "licensed." Your EGO
has given way to logic and reason...but, then, everyone
has already seen that...



Is that sig of yours a misuse of honors or a copycatting of pretend
significance?

My end-of-message IDENTIFICATION is merely an E-MAIL
FORWARDING ALIAS. See the header "From" line. My
professional association (IEEE, 34 years) provides
that forwarding alias free of charge to all IEEE
Members. That one-way forwarding alias includes some
"spam" filtering as an extra "filter" to remove
unwanted advertising e-mail. Such a forwarding
alias in little different than that used by the ARRL
for amateur radio members, conveying no more
significance than any other forwarding alias.

Do you understand this e-mail forwarding definition as
it has been explained to you? If not, the court will
appoint yet another dead horse for you to beat upon.

[...and the beat goes on...]

LA