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Dave Heil · February 6th 07, 01:16 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy

wrote:

As of 5 Feb 07 the above is unfortunately true in here.

With a couple of exceptions (Dee and Hans Brakob of
the past), and some mentions by a few "non-regulars,"
all the "regulars" have degenerated into their old
habits of putting themselves on their self-built
pedestals and sneering at others "not as good as
They."

....except that your pronouncement isn't true. There are precious few
potential radio amateurs appearing here. You have haunted this
newsgroup for over a decade without bothering to take an amateur radio
licensing exam, much less to pass one. You aren't a new amateur radio
op and you aren't likely to become one. Your posting style is full of
insults and rudeness. As you have found, you reap what you sow.

That's the self-serving selfishness John
speaks of.

You aren't a licensed radio amateur. Your posts are certainly
self-serving. I've never heard of self-serving selfishness.

The best they can do is mouth old, trite phrases used in the 1930s.

....while you use the same, tired Stephen Wright jokes over and over.

The year 2007 is over seven decades from that.

Your boast of getting that "Extra right out of the box" is itself seven
years old. Your first post to this newsgroup took place over ten years
ago.

Society and technology
has changed remarkably from that old time.

No kidding, Len? Do you think that things that represent societal norms
are better now than they were decades ago?

Most of these "old regulars" love to heap abuse on
me, a person who has been IN "radio" since 1952 but
has "failed" to get an amateur radio license.

You failed to mention your behavior here--the behavior which allows you
to heap abuse on others without expecting it in return.

In regard to your failure to achieve an amateur radio license, you
declared an interest in amateur radio spanning decades. You've posted
to an amateur radio interest newsgroup for better than a decade. You've
boasted that you would obtain the highest class U.S. amateur radio
license "right out of the box" in a statement made seven years ago.
Have you acted on obtaining that or any amateur radio license?

[my Commercial First 'Phone granted in 1956 is somehow
cast aside in their personal vendettas and vitriol]
Hey, no sweat, I've heard all of that acidity long
before. Doesn't faze me.

Your commercial First Phone ticket is not an amateur radio license.
This is not a commercial radio newsgroup. A commercial license is "cast
aside" by the FCC with regard to the obtaining of an amateur radio
license. You would have to meet the same amateur radio licensing
requirements as anyone else before you'd be issued an amateur license.

I'm still undecided on whether or not to take
advantage of the NO-CODE-TEST regulations coming
up. Of what advantage would it be?

I'll try to make this as uncomplicated as I can, Len:
You would be able to operate an amateur radio station in the amateur bands.

For me or anyone not licensed as an amateur?

Your non-sentence aside, the result would be the same for you as for
anyone else.

Our society is
fully engaged in using "radio" in many (and
remarkable) ways, usually without any need for an
amateur license.

As interesting as I find your statement, one who expresses interest in
amateur radio, haunts an amateur radio newsgroup and boast that he is
going to get the top license immediately must have found a reason to
obtain an amateur radio license.

What "need" is it?

Why not tell us what you perceived your need to be?

Belonging to
an "exclusive community?" Dozens of ways to do
that anywhere in this country.

You could live in a gated community with country club privileges. You
could wear Gucci loafers and sip Campari in an ultra-expensive night
spot. You cold live in an area which fights tooth and nail to prevent
zoning changes which would change the neighborhood or you could belong
to that very exclusive group of newsgroup crackpots which plagues groups
in which it does not participate.

To belong to a
"proud heritage" of pioneers? Sorry, but the vast
majority of actual radio pioneering was done by the
professionals, the entrepreneurs, the academics,
the folks in the electronics industry.

Then you might have misdirected your haunting of newsgroups.

Perhaps
to be able to "sign" an amateur station call sign
behind their name? That's a misuse of honors, a
copy-catting of pretend significance, of puffing
out enlarged egos. Passing any amateur radio
test is NOT any sort of academic achievement.

It isn't up to you to worry over someone who uses his amateur radio
callsign, Len. You aren't involved. Your plaintive cries over pretend
significance and enlarged egos are those of an outsider shouting, "but
look at what I've done!"

If you can't get into the electronics industry or
academia, then the Masons, Shriners, Elks or Moose
or similar fraternal orders can satisfy "belonging
to a 'proud tradition of fraternalism'" and they
probably have a nice bar in their local hang-out.

All of those options are open to you, Len. If that is your object, join
one of those organizations. They likely have a nice, warm lodge hall
where you might be accepted as one of the gang. By the way, Shriners
*are* Masons.

If you happen to just LIKE radio-electronics then it
is best NOT ever to mention that; olde-tymers don't
want to hear "fun" expressed unless it is to THEIR
"standards" of having fun.

You are able to have all of the fun you are capable of having by
tinkering with electronics. That isn't amateur radio, but why let that
bother you? Lots of folks who aren't radio amateurs enjoy electronics.
Amateur radio may not be the thing for you.

Is that sig of yours a misuse of honors or a copycatting of pretend
significance?

Dave K8MN