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My statement is correct. N2EY has never been other than civilized with
you.


Which "civilization" are you talking about? :-)


I didn't write "civilization", Leonard. I wrote "civilized."

Some Amazon River backwoods tribe using curare darts?


Is that where you learned your social skills?


His demeanor is in direct contrast with yours, especially when you
reply to him.


Cranky has a psychological problem involving pedantry
and religious transgendering. His problem, not mine.



No, Len, he doesn't. You've insulted him as if he does. That is one of
your several problems.

Your problem is much deeper. However, it MIGHT be
alleviated by your taking some Anger Management
counseling.


I'm not angry at all, Len. Are you angry?


My statement is correct. The overwhelming majority of posters to this
newsgroup are licensed radio amateurs.


Should I be "overwhelmed?" :-) I'm not.


Of course you aren't.

In here I'm not in the presence of gods, only some
cranky "superior" wannabes trying to push others
around.


You're being wishy-washy again. Are they gods or are they not gods?

There's no one here crankier than you, Len.


"Precious" can be applied to a pair of cute 4-year-olds
who each got an amateur radio license in 1998.


The word "precious" may be applied to numerous things.


So, you still believe that pre-kindergarten 4-year-olds
have sufficient English comprehension to take and pass
written test elements for an amateur radio license? :-)


Are you getting nervous?

Good luck on that one, now.


A newsgroup is NOT amateur radio.


That's correct. This particular newsgroup deals with amateur radio.


So do several other newsgroups.


However, NONE of them
seem to be concerned with getting anyone licensed in the
amateur radio service of the United States. That was
the point of "John Smith I" first posting in this thread.


"John" made his point. Feel free to appoint your self advocate for
something or other and to start the process for the creation of such a
newsgroup if you feel that it is needed.

So far, all that seems to be "dealt" is a bunch of middle-
school-minded macho adolescents busy tossing filth and
sexual innuendo around...


Nobody supports the Roger Wisemans of the world even if he somehow
obtained an amateur radio license. He's mentally ill.

...or some olde-tyme "superiority"
fossils busy berating others and/or trying to push others
around.


Either you really have an inferiority complex or you are truly inferior.

On the whole, this newsgroup doesn't seem to be dealing
at all well with amateur radio.


You're a big part of the sludge, Len.

You have NO AUTHORITY to demand all in here be licensed
for anything.


I've never made a demand that you obtain an amateur radio license.


That's obviously INCORRECT.


It is completely correct. I have never made such a demand.

YOU have wasted much memory
space with constant sniping, back-biting, arrogant
posturing (mostly on your alleged "superiority"), and
constant fabrication of others' "faults" which were no
faults, only differences of opinion.


Excuse me, Leonard. Where are the demands. You specifically wrote
"demands."

Your faults really are faults.

In fact, I much prefer that you didn't.


You seem to desire that in ALL your newsgroup opponents.


Don't lump yourself with ALL newsgroup opponents, Len. I wrote about
you and I meant you.

Is that the very model of modern morseman amateur? To
restrict the PUBLIC airways of anyone but your own cozy
little clique of hive-mind hammatures?


I wrote about you, Len, not anyone but my own cozy little clique.
The fact is, I'd really prefer that you not be licensed--just you.

Yes, it does
appear to be so! :-)


You make a great many factual errors.


You aren't a new amateur radio
op and you aren't likely to become one.


I haven't been a "new" radio operator since 1953.


Precisely. You have yet to become a radio amateur. When and if you
ever obtain such a license, you'll be a new amateur radio op.


You are CONSTANTLY dwelling on "new ops" as if that were
some kind of pejorative.


Someone beginning something is new at it. That seems to trouble you.

Why?


It is fact that can't be denied.

Is it because the FCC
will no longer have morse code testing as a necessity to
become a licensed radio amateur?


That has nothing to do with it. All Morse Code tested amateur radio
licensees were new when they first obtained a license. All non-Morse
Code tested ops will be new when they are first licensed.

Or are those your own
personal issues which might be alleviated by Anger
Management counseling?


I'm not angry, Len. I've stated a fact. Every radio amateur was new at
some point.

Maybe it is some kind of EGO thing, one of your imagining
you are always "superior" to those YOU consider "inferior?"


I'm superior to some in certain areas. I'm inferior to others.
Why is it that I can write such a thing but that you seem to have a
problem with the idea. It really seems to bother you that you could be
green at something.

Oh, my, it seems like you have MANY personal issues!


....and I'm being told so by a guy with an inferiority complex.

I was granted a COMMERCIAL radio operator license 50 years
ago...it is still on record although the FCC modified all
three Radiotelephone Operator classes into on General class
about 1985. Look it up in the FCC ULS if you must.


I don't care about it, Len. It isn't an amateur radio license.
In amateur radio, it qualifies you for nothing.


INCORRECT. MISTAKE. FAULTY. A commercial radio operator
license enables any grantee to operate a transmitter on
MORE of the EM spectrum, using MORE modes than are allocated
to radio amateurs. That involves radio technologies which
have yet to be adapted by the "amateur community."


Do you keep forgetting that we're discussing your commercial ticket in
an amateur radio newsgroup? It doesn't count for squat in obtaining an
amateur radio license. It doesn't give you any amateur radio privileges.

By human-made LAW at the federal level, licensed amateurs
are restricted to LAW-specified frequency bands and only
certain, specified modes of operation and modulation.


Right. You aren't authorized to operate an amateur radio station in
those places.

Radio amateurs cannot broadcast, cannot get monetary
compensation for their radio activies (some rare exceptions
such as in Part 97.113 (d)), cannot permit anyone but a
licensed control operator to operate their (or other
amateur) station transmitters.


Other than Todd O'What's-his-face and the former holder of the K1MAN
callsign, what radio amateur is spending his time thinking that he's a
broadcaster? What are you going on about?

Note the use of "human-
made" as a descriptor. The LAW came into being as a
political thing, not some divine edict in which (licensed)
radio amateurs are somehow "superior" to all others. What
was made by humans can be deleted by humans. FCC 06-178
is as lawful as any other US amateur radio service
regulation and it has deleted your cherished code test.


That doesn't change anything for you, Len. You're still on the outside,
looking in. When it comes to amateur radio, all licensed ops are your
superiors.

I could go on and on about my technical-operational back-
ground...


And you *have*--often.

...but you would simply dismiss it in your usual
arrogant "superior" manner as if it were "nothing."


It isn't anything to me. It isn't anything to the FCC. They still
expect you to pass all the exams required for a particular class of
license if you are to be issued one. That's the only way open to you.

You
just did that above.


Sure, I did. The commercial license you keep bringing up doesn't do
anything toward getting you an amateur radio license.

This only demonstrates your spiteful
selfish desire to be some kind of "superior" over others,
amply demonstrated in here for years.


Like I said, Len, I don't care if you ever obtain an amateur ticket.
You can sulk and pout to the end of your days. I really don't care.

Now how do you think that looks to those who are really
new to radio, any kind of radio?


Let me make it clear to anyone who is a potential new ham right now:

Do it now. Take the test now. If you want to become a radio amateur,
don't wait, don't waste precious years waffling. Learn the material and
get that license. The sooner you take and pass the exam, the sooner you
can enjoy all that amateur radio has to offer. You don't need some
self-appointed advocate. You don't need to read this newsgroup. Just
order the study material and get to work on them.

There, Len, that should clear things up for the potential licensees you
might happen upon r.r.a.p. Don't misunderstand. I didn't mean the
above for you. You may spend the balance of your days on the sideline.

Do you think they will
worship you at your feet AS IF you were some god of radio?


What is this radio god fetish you have?

Do you think it makes them proud just to be in the same
newsgroup with you?


I don't spend my days wondering or worrying if some potential new ham is
going to be proud of me.

If you do, then you've got a really
bad case of Superiority Complex all mixed up with an even
larger Inferiority Complex. A complex confusion.


Well, I don't, so the rest of your rant is sort of pointless.

You cannot foretell the future. No human has proven to be
prescient.


I predict that you will never obtain an amateur radio license during
your lifetime. Now let's sit back and see if I've accurately predicted
the future.


It's irrelevant as to whatever I do.


It's relevant. You said that I couldn't foretell the future. We'll
wait for a bit and we'll find out. Maybe I'm a seer.

If you keep on treating
me as something worse than dirt, then others will think that
you will treat them as dirt, or worse.


No, Len, you aren't worse than dirt. You're just a fellow who can't
seem to behave himself.

They will get the
(demonstratably correct) idea that ALL olde-tyme morsemen
are elite snobs looking down on "lesser beings." NOT a
good attitude.


There's one of your mistakes. They might get the idea that I don't care
for you. Besides, I've addressed them above.

Your constant prodding, poking, sneering, and general un-
wholesome behavior about "newbies" and "neophytes" makes it
clear that YOUR motivation is merely to make fun of, to
ridicule and demean all your newsgroup opponents.


There's just you, Len. You aren't yet a newbie or neophyte in amateur
radio. If I can foresee the future, you won't ever be a newbie or
neophyte in amateur radio.

You are
trying to "set up" some kind of future commentary.


According to you, as soon as the Morse Test is gone, you're history.

That's
so predictable that you might as well make graphics lighted
by neon. For example, in my case, three possible courses
of your future action:

1. I take no action towards getting an amateur radio license:
No change in your attitude, the same manufactured "faults"
you've been expressing all along, a constant barrage of snide
snarly remarks about "long interest" and "no action."


Let's see...you take no action, you make good on your statement that
you'll be leaving this newsgroup and I'll have to be reminded that I can
foresee the future.

2. I try testing and fail any element: Accusations of
"stupdity," "inability to be as good as four-year-olds,"
and general cat-calling of a most uncivil nature. A general
set of uncomplimentary remarks including charges of an "age"
nature.


It would have nothing to do with age or with stupidity. There are
plenty of fellows who have failed an element. They retake it until they
pass.

3. I try and succeed: Modified accusations, now along the
lines of snide, snarly, berating comments about "why didn't
I do that 'sooner?'" That would be followed by a "lecture"
of how I was "supposed to have gotten an amateur license
'first'!"


As I've said, Len, given the way you act, I prefer if you don't obtain
an amateur radio license. I can do nothing for or against your taking
and passing an exam. I'd probably think more of you if you took and
passed an exam for any class amateur radio exam. The "sooner" doesn't
matter. The time you wasted typing your fingers to the bone here in
r.r.a.p. is your time. You wasted it.

For any of the three possible scenarios I would proceed
on my own, for me, NOT on any remarks from a suspected
insane individual such as yourself.


The first scenario doesn't have you proceeding at all, but have it your
way, Len. Get an amateur radio license or don't get an amateur radio
license. Either way, my life doesn't change.

You're the biggest control freak of all, Len. You want to control
regulations in something in which you play no part.


My advocacy of eliminating the code test was about GETTING
INTO amateur radio.


Yep. You've taken longer to get into amateur radio than any individual
I've heard of.

The FCC did eliminate that code test
effect 23 Feb 07. Thousands commented to the FCC about
eliminating that code test, including myself. There is
NO LAW WHATSOEVER that restricted such commentary to ONLY
licensed persons in a particular civil radio service.


You commented. Now what?

Do YOU spend all your time GETTING INTO amateur radio
through taking morse code tests? I don't think so.


Don't you think I could pass, Len?

YOU spend an inordinate amount of time trying to accuse
others of pushing YOU around!


I've spent no time accusing others of pushing me around. That's what
you do. You write of someone who DEMANDS something of you when no demand
has been made.

Oh, my, who could EVER
DARE push Heil around?!?


I have a better scenario, Len. Who is capable of pushing me around?
Am I going to be searching for my teeth? Is someone going to lay a
2 x 4 against my head?

Why you would just fabricate
some "faults" of theirs and try to get others to believe
that!


No one needs fabricate faults of yours, Len. There are plenty of 'em
just lying about.



The only "sow" encountered in the last decade have been
some transgendered porcine types who thought they were
gods of radio and attempted pushing many of us NCTA
around.


You've told us about the "sow" you've eaten in recent months.
You've thus eaten the gods of radio. How very, very peculiar.



INCORRECT. The FDA does not require labeling of ham
as to the gender of the animal butchered and packed.

A definition of ham: "The butchered meat of swine."


So you *may* have eaten the gods of radio. Tsk, tsk. Poor baby.


You're still at the starting line, Len.


IMPOSSIBLE. The only "starting line" in radio happened in
either Switzerland of 1895 or Italy of 1896, both done by
Guglielmo Marconi. That is historical fact. The only
dispute there is Marconi's experiments (few records were
kept) in Switzerland in 1895. Popov in Russia demonstrated
radio as a communications medium in 1896.


[balance of windy pontification snipped]

You're no closer to an amateur radio license than you were decades back.
You're no closer than you were over ten years ago when you began posting
to r.r.a.p. A standstill is always a standstill.

Dave K8MN
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From: Dave Heil on Wed, 07 Feb 2007 05:35:35 GMT

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From: Dave Heil on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:38:16 GMT
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From: Dave Heil on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:16:22 GMT
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I didn't write "civilization", Leonard. I wrote "civilized."


You pedant in your pants again... :-)


No, Len, he doesn't. You've insulted him as if he does. That is one of
your several problems.


Who doesn't? Who was "insulted?" What problems?


You're being wishy-washy again.


I shower regularly. Isn't that the usual result? :-)


Are you getting nervous?


Do you want a Don Knotts impersonation? You will have to
pay a minimum of scale rate. Guild rules...


Nobody supports the Roger Wisemans of the world even if he somehow
obtained an amateur radio license. He's mentally ill.


Am I supposed to discuss this "Roger Wisemans?" How
did this person enter your Dali-esque fantasy world?

Please publish your Regulations on newsgroup behavior
so that Paul Schleck can take it up with the moderators.
That's a good little Kommandant. Seig Heil!


You're a big part of the sludge, Len.


What "sludge?" Your waste matter?!?


Don't lump yourself with ALL newsgroup opponents, Len. I wrote about
you and I meant you.


You seem confused. A few sentences ago you were talking
about some "Roger Wisemans." Try to stay focussed.


I wrote about you, Len, not anyone but my own cozy little clique.


Ah! So you ADMIT to being in a cozy little clique!


The fact is, I'd really prefer that you not be licensed--just you.


Tsk. You should write the FCC and inform them of your
ORDER, Herr Kommandant.


Someone beginning something is new at it.


You are still new at being a human being in groups outside
of your cozy little clique.

That has nothing to do with it. All Morse Code tested amateur radio
licensees were new when they first obtained a license. All non-Morse
Code tested ops will be new when they are first licensed.


You say "all morse code tested amateur radio licensees..."
then say "all non-morse code tested ops." Why do you say
that non-morse code tested licensees are NOT licensed?


I'm superior to some in certain areas.


That seems to be ALL areas. :-)

I'm inferior to others.


Impossible! The Grate Heil is great at ALL things amateur!


It really seems to bother you that you could be green at something.


Tsk, I'm not green at operating a radio. :-)


...and I'm being told so by a guy with an inferiority complex.


Who is that? Are you back to talking about this "Roger
Wisemans?" Most confusing you are said Yoda


Right. You aren't authorized to operate an amateur radio station in
those places.


Which "places?" I am forbidden to operate a radio on
a test bench with a dummy load? :-)

And for some dummy of an amateur extra who doesn't know
how to set up a bench test? :-)


Other than Todd O'What's-his-face and the former holder of the K1MAN
callsign, what radio amateur is spending his time thinking that he's a
broadcaster? What are you going on about?


Do about what? You keep reminding me I am "not licensed."
Do you expect ME to do your dirty work for you, Herr
Kommandant?

You're still on the outside, looking in.


Incorrect. I am inside and looking at a computer screen.


It isn't anything to the FCC. They still
expect you to pass all the exams required for a particular class of
license if you are to be issued one.


The FCC "expects me to pass some exams?" They haven't
informed me about that. Maybe you should remind Kevin
at your regular business lunch there in DC?


Like I said, Len, I don't care if you ever obtain an amateur ticket.


You "don't care?!?" After ALL those words berating
me? Tsk, tsk. You must CARE very deeply when you
go on and on and on and on and on about it...


Do it now. Take the test now.


All four elements that includes the code test? :-)

Hmmm...its about 10:45 PM local here...I don't know of any
24/7 VEC exam places that are open in southern California
now.


If you want to become a radio amateur,
don't wait, don't waste precious years waffling.


I wasn't really planning a third career as an IHOP cook...

You don't need to read this newsgroup.


You keep saying that... :-)


I don't spend my days wondering or worrying if some potential new ham is
going to be proud of me.


You expect all to immediately recognize you innate grandness,
a sort of "divine right of kings" or something. Yes, that
is perfectly clear.


It's relevant. You said that I couldn't foretell the future. We'll
wait for a bit and we'll find out. Maybe I'm a seer.


You have a sneer. Tsk, tsk.


They might get the idea that I don't care for you.


Yas, yas, you state the obvious. :-)

Besides, I've addressed them above.


"Addressed?" To whom? "Roger Wisemans?"

Tsk, make a clear point. You ramble so.


According to you, as soon as the Morse Test is gone, you're history.


I am "history?" In which book of history am I?

Am I on a film or TV documentary?

Tsk, you keep saying I "make mistakes." Now you want me
gone and say I speak the "truth" about "going?" Which
is it? You contradict yourself.


As I've said, Len, given the way you act, I prefer if you don't obtain
an amateur radio license.


Awwww...that wouldn't have anything to do with my not
heaping gratuitous praise on your mighty diplomatic
mission in Guinea-Bisseau, would it?

How about not appreciating your "synchonizing your tele-
printers using CW?" [teleprinters have always been
designed to self-synchronize]

How about my not praising you to the skies for "receiving
'combat pay'" in Vietnam when you've never been in
combat?


I'd probably think more of you if you took and
passed an exam for any class amateur radio exam. The "sooner" doesn't
matter.


Now, now, you contradict yourself again. You just said
your couldn't care less if I didn't become a licensed
radio amateur. Try to keep your sneering arrogant
commentary on-track, OK?

The time you wasted typing your fingers to the bone here in
r.r.a.p. is your time.


Tsk, I've never "typed fingers to the bone." Skin has
always been intact. 22 years and many millions of
characters later, my fingers are still intact.


You wasted it.


I eliminate waste regularly. Remember, move your vowels
every day or you will get consonated...


You've taken longer to get into amateur radio than any individual
I've heard of.


You, of course, have "heard of all." :-) [all gods of
radio are that way...]

My advocacy in here has always been to eliminate the code
test in any amateur radio license test. Yet, you are
still confused about that. Doesn't that give you some
inclination that something is wrong with YOU?


Don't you think I could pass, Len?


Not as a human being...

As an Otto Preminger impersonator, yes, if you lost some
weight. "Stalag 17" was a stage play before it was a
movie. Keep hoping for a production near you on that and
go to the audition. I'm sure you could impress the
producers into giving that part to you.


I've spent no time accusing others of pushing me around.


True. You simply push others around. QED.


Who is capable of pushing me around?


The FCC?

Am I going to be searching for my teeth?


I don't know. Did you lose them AGAIN?



No one needs fabricate faults of yours, Len.


San Andreas kept denying HIS fault and look what happened...


You're no closer to an amateur radio license than you were decades back.


Tsk, you keep saying I was after an amateur radio license.

I kept stating what my advocacy was. You keep on with
your fabrication of "my desires." :-)

You see nothing wrong with your actions? Oh, my, you ARE
confused on what is happening.

You're no closer than you were over ten years ago when you began posting
to r.r.a.p.


INCORRECT. FAULTY. MISTAKE.

Hello, didn't you read FCC 06-178? It will order the removal
of morse code testing from amateur radio license testing
effective 23 February 2007.

Sunnuvagun! SUCCESS!!! :-)


Poor baby. Don't cry...



[end-of-message identification removed because of some who
cannot belong to my professional association and get all
snippy and snotty about it...]


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From: Dave Heil on Wed, 07 Feb 2007 05:35:35 GMT

wrote:
From: Dave Heil on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:38:16 GMT
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From: Dave Heil on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 01:16:22 GMT
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I didn't write "civilization", Leonard. I wrote "civilized."


You pedant in your pants again... :-)


Really, Len. I wrote "civilized". I see your new game. You'd like to
snip most of my words and those things to which I responded. I'll play
along.


Who doesn't?


Who doesn't what?

Who was "insulted?"

On which occasion?

What problems?

How can you formulate a solution if you don't recognize the problems?


You're being wishy-washy again.


Isn't that the usual result? :-)


Precisely.


Do you want a Don Knotts impersonation?


What's with your Don Knotts fetish?

You will have to
pay a minimum of scale rate. Guild rules...


It's all about money with you.


That's a good little Kommandant. Seig Heil!


Just how did you get that AFTRA card, Len?


Your waste matter?!?


It matters to me, Len.


I wrote about you, Len, not anyone but my own cozy little clique.


Ah!


I knew you'd understand.


That has nothing to do with it. All Morse Code tested amateur radio
licensees were new when they first obtained a license. All non-Morse
Code tested ops will be new when they are first licensed.


You say "all morse code tested amateur radio licensees..."
then say "all non-morse code tested ops." Why do you say
that non-morse code tested licensees are NOT licensed?


I said nothing of the kind. You are trying to make it appear that I did.


I'm superior to some in certain areas.


That seems to be ALL areas. :-)


Thanks for the compliment, but I didn't say it.

I'm inferior to others.


Impossible! The Grate Heil is great at ALL things amateur!


Again, thanks for the compliment.

Tsk, I'm not green at operating a radio. :-)


Tsk, tsk. You need to be more sensitive to the environment. :-)


Who is that?


It might have been Sean Penn. Maybe you can get his autograph.

I am forbidden to operate a radio on
a test bench with a dummy load? :-)


Do what you think will work for you, Len. :-)


I am inside and looking at a computer screen.


Can you see the fellow doing the typing on the outside of the screen?



The FCC "expects me to pass some exams?"


I don't think anyone at the Commission is making book on whether you'll
succeed. :-)


You "don't care?!?" After ALL those words berating
me? Tsk, tsk. You must CARE very deeply when you
go on and on and on and on and on about it...


You write like a fellow lobbying for a valentine. :-)


Hmmm...its about 10:45 PM local here...I don't know of any
24/7 VEC exam places that are open in southern California
now.


Rest easy. You've already put it off for seven years.

I wasn't really planning a third career as an IHOP cook...


If you need the money, you need the money... :-)


You keep saying that... :-)


Really, Len. Quit thinking about my pants. :-)


Yes, that is perfectly clear.


Are you back on the inside of the computer screen? :-)


You have a sneer. Tsk, tsk.


I have an Orion. Poor baby.

Yas, yas, you state the obvious. :-)


....and you still don't get it. :-)

"Addressed?" To whom?


The folks at Gettysburg! :-)

I am "history?" In which book of history am I?


"Famous Horse's Patoot's I Have Known". There's a whole chapter devoted
to you.

Am I on a film or TV documentary?


Apparently you're on the inside of a computer monitor.

Tsk, you keep saying I "make mistakes." Now you want me
gone and say I speak the "truth" about "going?" Which
is it? You contradict yourself.


You said you'd be gone, Len. It might be one of those things like your
"Extra right out of the box" though.


Awwww...that wouldn't have anything to do with my not
heaping gratuitous praise on your mighty diplomatic
mission in Guinea-Bisseau, would it?


You received the crate of cashews?



I'd probably think more of you if you took and
passed an exam for any class amateur radio exam. The "sooner" doesn't
matter.


Now, now, you contradict yourself again. You just said
your couldn't care less if I didn't become a licensed
radio amateur.


I don't believe that I said "couldn't care less", Len. I could care
less. I'd probably think a little better of you if you actually took
and passed a license exam. Don't get all choked up though. I said "a
little more".

Try to keep your sneering arrogant
commentary on-track, OK?


It wasn't sneering, Len. It was offered as my heart-felt thoughts on
the three scenarios you presented--the ones you snipped.

The time you wasted typing your fingers to the bone here in
r.r.a.p. is your time.


Tsk, I've never "typed fingers to the bone." Skin has
always been intact. 22 years and many millions of
characters later, my fingers are still intact.


Pedant? Pants?

I eliminate waste regularly.


Your own?

You've taken longer to get into amateur radio than any individual
I've heard of.


You, of course, have "heard of all." :-)


Over the past 43 years, I *have* heard it all. You take the cake.

[all gods of radio are that way...]


Who are the gods of radio, Len?

My advocacy in here has always been to eliminate the code
test in any amateur radio license test.


Yet, for the past decade your unpleasant and pontificating style has
gotten in the way of that self-appointed advocacy.


Yet, you are
still confused about that.


No, Len, I'm not confuse about what you say are your reasons. You've
told us oodles of times. Based upon your posts to this newsgroup, I
simply don't believe you.

Doesn't that give you some
inclination that something is wrong with YOU?


On the contrary, it gives me confidence that you are unable to realize
just how you have behaved here.




True.


Don't tense up, Len. The question was multiple choice.


Who is capable of pushing me around?


The FCC?


Nope, I'd have to violate one of the regs of my licensing. I don't do
that. Any other guesses?

Am I going to be searching for my teeth?


I don't know. Did you lose them AGAIN?


If you don't know, who would? You issued a threat and then included a
little smiley.

No one needs fabricate faults of yours, Len.


San Andreas kept denying HIS fault and look what happened...


Take heed!


You're no closer to an amateur radio license than you were decades back.


Tsk, you keep saying I was after an amateur radio license.


Naw, Len, you're waaaayyyyy before an amateur radio license.

I kept stating what my advocacy was.


....and we all know that your "advocacy" was much, much more.

You keep on with
your fabrication of "my desires." :-)


You've stated interest. You've stated desire. You've stated, "Extra
right out of the box". Then you've vacillated.

INCORRECT. FAULTY. MISTAKE.


Yes, you've been guilty of numerous factual errors. Don't be too hard
on yourself.

Dave K8MN
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