On Feb 10, 7:20�pm, "
wrote:
On 7 Feb 2007 15:29:04 -0800, wrote:

The number of Technician class amateur licenses
has never exceeded the
number of licenses of all other amateur license
classes combined. You
were wrong on that too, some days back.

* *Not quite...

Yes, quite. You were quite wrong, Len. Mistaken,
in error, barking up the wrong tree, inaccurate,
mixed up, saying the thing which was not, etc.

Here's a link to the post:


http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e=source&hl=en

where you wrote:

"Don't you realize that Technician class is now
bigger than ALL other US license classes combined?"

To answer your question, I don't realize it because
it's not true. Anyone with an understanding of the facts
knows it's not true, either.

* *From the daily stats at www.hamdata.com
for 10 Feb 07,*14:19 UTC:

Those stats include licenses that are expired but in
the grace period.

But since you like them, let's see what they say:

* *Technician * * * 311,157
* *Technician Plus * 40,654
* *Novice * * * * * *29,253
* *General * * * * *142,153
* *Advanced * * * * *76,664
* *Extra * * * * * *111,393
* *Club Calls * * * *10,329
* *Total,ALL* * * 721,603

* *Club Calls can be subracted from the Total since they are
* *not those of individuals. *In that case the total number
* *of INDIVIDUAL USA amateur radio licensees is 711,274.

711,274 total individual USA amateur radio licensees
minus 311,157 Technicians
leaves 400,117 individual USA amateur radio licensees
of all other license classes combined.

400,117 is 88,960 more than 311,157. So the claim

"Technician class is now bigger than ALL other
US license classes combined"

is simply not true. Not true at all. Not even close -
and using *your* numbers!

* *Based on 711,274 individuals, the percentage of
licensees
* *by class is, by 10 Feb 07:

* *Technician * * * *43.75%

43.75% is a less than 50%.

* *Technician Plus * *5.72%
* *Novice * * * * * * 4.11%
* *General * * * * * 19.99%
* *Advanced * * * * *10.78%
* *Extra * * * * * * 15.66%

* *Technician and Technician Plus
together = 351,811 or 49.46%

49.46% is a less than 50%.

And you didn't write 'Technician and Technician
Plus together', Len old chap. You wrote:

"Technician class is now bigger
than ALL other US license classes combined"

And it isn't.

Just for grins, suppose we consider the
combined total of Technicians and Technician Pluses.

711,274 total individual USA amateur radio licensees
minus 351,811 Technicians and Tech Pluses
leaves 359,463 individual USA amateur radio licensees
of all other license classes combined.

359,463 is 7,652 more than 351,811. So even if
we consider Techs and Tech pluses as Techs,
they do not outnumber all other license classes.

So the claim

"Technician class is now bigger than ALL other
US license classes combined"

is simply not true. Not true at all. Not even close -
and using *your* numbers!

* *50% of 711,274 is exactly 355,637
or 3,826 more than 351,811.

Which proves that your claim was just plain
wrong, Len.

* *If this sissy-fuss wants to keep rolling his
"factual error" rock up hill all the time, let him.

You made the error, Len. I simply pointed it out.

Yet you act like I'm doing something wrong..

* *On the home page ofwww.hamdata.comis a small block of
* *licensee numbers for the last 12 months:

* *New Licensees: * * 22,006
* *Expired Licenses: *28,618

* *Based on that the LOSS in 12 Months = 6,612

So what?

You still got the facts wrong, Len.

* *There's NO WAY of escaping the NUMERICAL
FACT that USA
* *amateur radio licensee numbers are DECREASING,
and have
* *been decreasing for nearly 4 years.

That's not the point, Len. I know that better than you do,
from posting the ARS license numbers twice a month.

* *The pro-coders' constant argument is "the original
no-code
* *techs grace period is up and they've quit ham radio" or
* *words to that effect. *

Oh, my, but that does NOT make sense
* *when NEW "no-code techs" are INCREASING at an
average rate
* *of THIRTY-TWO per day!

Yet they still do not outnumber all other license classes
combined.

*The is by far the greatest increase
* *per class.

How many of those 32 per day are new licenses, and how
many are Tech Pluses renewed as Technicians?

* *Cranky has many times tried to rationalize that the
* *amateur extra is the "largest increasing class"

Where?

Show us where that was claimed.
If it has been said many times, you should be
able to prove it easily.

But I think you are mistaken - again.

but, again,
* *the numbers never fitted his "explanation." *However,
* *Cranky is an extra, so therefore he is "right." *:-)

Len, you are the crankiest one here. Are you referring
to yourself in the third person?

* *Upgraders are those already licensed who are
just changing
* *their license class...they neither increase nor decrease
* *the total number of licensees.

FCC has been renewing Tech Pluses as Techs since
April 15, 2000. That's one reason the number of Technicians
keeps growing. Yet the number of Techs does not exceed
the number of all other license classes combined, even after
almost 7 years.

* *Based on that Hamdata data of 28,618 EXPIRATIONS
* *in 12 months, that represents a LOSS of 78 per day in
* *the USA! *[28,618 / 365 = 78.405] *If the newcomers
* *weren't coming in via the no-code tech route, the
* *USA ham license totals would have been shrinking much
* *faster.

Maybe.

Or maybe they'd be coming in by another route. US amateur
radio had many periods of growth before there was a license
without a code test.

Soon we will see what the effect of total elimination of the
Morse Code test will be. Perhaps there will be more growth -
or perhaps not. I will post the numbers in either case.

But regardless of all that, Len, the number of Technicians
does not exceed the number of all other license classes
combined - even if Tech Pluses are counted as Technicians.

All your shouting, name calling and attempted diversions
do not change that.

Jim, N2EY