And is it legal for a licensed amateur to violate rules of a sovereign
country (no matter how well-intentioned?

From W5YI amateur news:
RADIO AMATEUR INSTALLS RADIO TRANSMITTER FOR BURMA REBELS - The San Luis
Obispo (Calif.) Tribune carried an interesting story on January 26 about
David Martin, WA6TYJ of Paso Robles, CA. Martin, 60, also holds an amateur
radio license (unofficial prefix 1Z9) issued by the Karen National Union
(KNU.) That's the rebel government in a disputed region in Myanmar, the
Asian country we used to call Burma. (The U.S. does not recognize the
renaming of Burma to Myanmar.) "What he does is install and improve radio
stations for Christian organizations." More than one-third of the KNU are
Christians.

"He entered Myanmar last February without permission from its official
government from neighboring Thailand by crossing a river in a wooden boat
powered by an outboard motor. The part of Myanmar he entered is a disputed
territory known as Karen State. ... It's the longtime home of an ethnic
population of about 3 million known as the Karen people. ...Mr. Martin and
his partner installed an FM radio transmitter and delivered 1,000 little
solar-powered radio receivers that are tuned exclusively to that
transmitter's frequency."

"They also set up an e-mail system that connects to the Internet via
shortwave radio. It operates on solar and battery power. Mr. Martin said it
can be a source of news and photos from Myanmar, where most other reports
are censored by the military government."

The Internet and free international email are generally not accessible in
Burma. The Karen National Liberation Army has waged the longest fight for
independence in the world ...60 years (since 1947).

On Feb 2, 7:20?pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
And is it legal for a licensed amateur to violate rules of a sovereign
country (no matter how well-intentioned?

From W5YI amateur news:
RADIO AMATEUR INSTALLS RADIO TRANSMITTER FOR BURMA REBELS - The San Luis
Obispo (Calif.) Tribune carried an interesting story on January 26 about

Oh, my, a CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC of intense interest (?)
to Norte Americanos?

You best forward this to our resident "expert" on all
foreign matters, K8MN. He has his pulse on the
international scene and KNOWS all about such stuff
as a former employee of the US Department of State!
He will RULE!

LA

wrote:
On Feb 2, 7:20?pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
And is it legal for a licensed amateur to violate rules of a sovereign
country (no matter how well-intentioned?

From W5YI amateur news:
RADIO AMATEUR INSTALLS RADIO TRANSMITTER FOR BURMA REBELS - The San Luis
Obispo (Calif.) Tribune carried an interesting story on January 26 about

Oh, my, a CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC of intense interest (?)
to Norte Americanos?

You best forward this to our resident "expert" on all
foreign matters, K8MN. He has his pulse on the
international scene and KNOWS all about such stuff
as a former employee of the US Department of State!
He will RULE!

Thank you for providing evidence of why you oppose the creation of a
moderated newsgroup, Len.

Dave K8MN

"Stefan Wolfe" wrote in message
...
And is it legal for a licensed amateur to violate rules of a sovereign
country (no matter how well-intentioned?

From W5YI amateur news:
RADIO AMATEUR INSTALLS RADIO TRANSMITTER FOR BURMA REBELS - The San Luis
Obispo (Calif.) Tribune carried an interesting story on January 26 about
David Martin, WA6TYJ of Paso Robles, CA. Martin, 60, also holds an amateur
radio license (unofficial prefix 1Z9) issued by the Karen National Union
(KNU.) That's the rebel government in a disputed region in Myanmar, the
Asian country we used to call Burma. (The U.S. does not recognize the
renaming of Burma to Myanmar.) "What he does is install and improve radio
stations for Christian organizations." More than one-third of the KNU are
Christians.

"He entered Myanmar last February without permission from its official
government from neighboring Thailand by crossing a river in a wooden boat
powered by an outboard motor. The part of Myanmar he entered is a disputed
territory known as Karen State. ... It's the longtime home of an ethnic
population of about 3 million known as the Karen people. ...Mr. Martin and
his partner installed an FM radio transmitter and delivered 1,000 little
solar-powered radio receivers that are tuned exclusively to that
transmitter's frequency."

"They also set up an e-mail system that connects to the Internet via
shortwave radio. It operates on solar and battery power. Mr. Martin said
it can be a source of news and photos from Myanmar, where most other
reports are censored by the military government."

The Internet and free international email are generally not accessible in
Burma. The Karen National Liberation Army has waged the longest fight for
independence in the world ...60 years (since 1947).


indeed they diednt want me to leaave adn no want me to leed men into brattle
as commishunned officre
no they want to do soemthing I have never done before lead men in battle the
war is treching things quuit e abit

I tell em no hell no and no ****ing way



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

On Feb 3, 11:35?am, Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 2, 7:20?pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:

Thank you for providing evidence of why you oppose the creation of a
moderated newsgroup, Len.

What "creation?"

What "opposition?" I'm just not wanting to BE there.
:-)

Have you gotten with Condi and advised her what to do
with those Karen? I'll bet you have.

Tsk, Heil makes all those FACTUAL ERRORS in here!

He won't get an amateur "leadership" position that way!

Meanwhile, back to the "international scene..."

LA

Stefan Wolfe wrote:

And is it legal for a licensed amateur to violate rules of a sovereign
country (no matter how well-intentioned?

Who cares, that government is a bunch of commies... And besides, if the
USA government doesn't recognize them, then that USA law would not see
anything in that part of the world other than a big empty space.

On Feb 2, 8:20 pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
And is it legal for a licensed amateur to violate rules of a sovereign
country

His US license status isn't material to the question.

If he is violating the laws of a sovereign country (including being in
that country 'undocumented'), that is by definition an illegal act in
that country. If XE1ABC sneaks across the Rio Grande, his Mexican
amateur license status isn't material to the question of his legal
status, no matter how fast he can beep.

73, de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 2, 8:20 pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
And is it legal for a licensed amateur to violate rules of a sovereign
country

His US license status isn't material to the question.

If he is violating the laws of a sovereign country (including being in
that country 'undocumented'), that is by definition an illegal act in
that country. If XE1ABC sneaks across the Rio Grande, his Mexican
amateur license status isn't material to the question of his legal
status, no matter how fast he can beep.

However, he violated the laws regulating radio transmissions in a foreign
country. FCC Part 97 requires that licesnsed operators obey the radio
transmission statutes of foreign countries, does it not?

Taken to its extreme, if the FCC permits amateurs to flout Burmese radio
laws, then the FCC should be willing to accept the consequences of Burmese
hams coming to the USA and setting up illegal transmitting stations here.

That's why we have treaties...or so I thought.

On Feb 4, 6:22 pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:


However, he violated the laws regulating radio transmissions in a foreign
country. FCC Part 97 requires that licesnsed operators obey the radio
transmission statutes of foreign countries, does it not?


FCC has jurisdiction only to infractions on US soil (including US
possessions and US-flagged vessels).

Infractions on foreign soil are subject to the laws of the country
where they occur.

73, de Hans, K0HB

"KØHB" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 4, 6:22 pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:


However, he violated the laws regulating radio transmissions in a foreign
country. FCC Part 97 requires that licesnsed operators obey the radio
transmission statutes of foreign countries, does it not?


FCC has jurisdiction only to infractions on US soil (including US
possessions and US-flagged vessels).

Infractions on foreign soil are subject to the laws of the country
where they occur.

The ITU treaty covers infractions over foreign soil.