wrote:
"Dick Carroll;" writes:

Len wrote:

You define "limited interest in CW" to be "limited interest in ARS"
because you define ARS as inherently including CW. Since that's the
topic under discussion, you are begging the question.

NO, that's not the topic under discussion. The topic under discussion was
the REQUIREMENTS for licensing, whatever they might be.


Let's run through this slowly. The question is whether the CW
component of the ARS licensure requirement should be kept. (I say
yes.)

Ahh, there the problem is! At some point in the dark past, I mentioned
that I thought that a person who was interested in the ARS would take
whatever tests thrown at them. I noted at the time that this was a
separate issue from whether the Morse test should be kept or not.

To me it just seemed logical and a little obvious. We have a person or
two here who say they refuse to get a license or advanced license
because of the Morse code test. I have a really hard time concluding
that they have more of an interest in Amateur radio than those who do
take the tests.

note: no one has to become a ham, no one has to become a General or Extra.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo writes:

Ahh, there the problem is! At some point in the dark past, I
mentioned that I thought that a person who was interested in the ARS
would take whatever tests thrown at them. I noted at the time that
this was a separate issue from whether the Morse test should be kept
or not.

Missed that. If so, I concede we have a misunderstanding! And, indeed,
that we agree. (My illustration using a swimming test is of course a
more extreme version of exactly what you say above.)

To me it just seemed logical and a little obvious. We have a person
or two here who say they refuse to get a license or advanced license
because of the Morse code test. I have a really hard time concluding
that they have more of an interest in Amateur radio than those who
do take the tests.

I agree completely.

Regards,
Len.

wrote:
Mike Coslo writes:

Ahh, there the problem is! At some point in the dark past, I
mentioned that I thought that a person who was interested in the ARS
would take whatever tests thrown at them. I noted at the time that
this was a separate issue from whether the Morse test should be kept
or not.


Missed that. If so, I concede we have a misunderstanding! And, indeed,
that we agree. (My illustration using a swimming test is of course a
more extreme version of exactly what you say above.)

To me it just seemed logical and a little obvious. We have a person
or two here who say they refuse to get a license or advanced license
because of the Morse code test. I have a really hard time concluding
that they have more of an interest in Amateur radio than those who
do take the tests.


I agree completely.


Phew! Actually I am glad you gave me that google link, because I went
back and re-read the posts to figure out where this whole thing went
astray. Seems it happened soon after I made my first post.

Seems that some of the more vociferous PCTA'ers agreed with me, and
then the other side felt compelled to check in. From there, the simple
statement got kind of stratified.

Oh well, time for a few Ibuprofen....

73 - Mike KB3EIA -