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Why don't Real Hams you face the facts?
too bad spelling hasn't
-- -------- All outgoing mail and files scanned by Nortons. www.w1cny.com/w1cny-1 "citizensband" wrote in message ... All the garbage about how you should even be allowed to operate a CB, unless you are able to build your own equipment. Real Hams will never be able to build a rig that even comes close to what's available off the shelf these days. Most people can't even be bothered, have no interest or don't have the time to build rigs anymore. Boatanchors should be used for exactly that, anchoring boats! Time to stop whinging, and face the facts...Real Technology has overtaken you all! tox |
"Bob Rinaldi" wrote in message et... too bad spelling hasn't -- -------- Or in your case, top-posting! HTH tox |
In uk.radio.amateur, warren weber said:
What's wrong with top posting? This way you don't need to read the garbage. Buy a wheel mouse. |
Even with a wheel mouse, you don't need to read the garbage.
However, a wheel mouse would seem to be the answer for those who make the silly fuss - the arrogant bottom-posters - would it not? Whinging Courier wrote in message ... In uk.radio.amateur, warren weber said: What's wrong with top posting? This way you don't need to read the garbage. Buy a wheel mouse. |
"Airy R Bean" SPAM@trap wrote in message
... Even with a wheel mouse, you don't need to read the garbage. However, a wheel mouse would seem to be the answer for those who make the silly fuss - the arrogant bottom-posters - would it not? http://tinyurl.com/h2yf |
"Airy R Bean" SPAM@trap wrote in message ... Even with a wheel mouse, you don't need to read the garbage. However, a wheel mouse would seem to be the answer for those who make the silly fuss - the arrogant bottom-posters - would it not? The vast majority of Real Hams, stick to the protocol of bottom posting. There are those, of course, who are incapable...such as yourself! If you require some assistance on how to post correctly, do let me know. HTH tox |
Why don't you go back to yelling
"aaaaaaaauuuuuuuudddddddddiiiiiiiooooooo" into your power mic on channel 19. citizensband wrote: "Airy R Bean" SPAM@trap wrote in message ... Even with a wheel mouse, you don't need to read the garbage. However, a wheel mouse would seem to be the answer for those who make the silly fuss - the arrogant bottom-posters - would it not? The vast majority of Real Hams, stick to the protocol of bottom posting. There are those, of course, who are incapable...such as yourself! If you require some assistance on how to post correctly, do let me know. HTH tox |
"JJ" wrote in message
... Why don't you go back to yelling "aaaaaaaauuuuuuuudddddddddiiiiiiiooooooo" into your power mic on channel 19. Hardeehar!! Hey, we used to have a 10M sched every night, and we used to hear one of the local Extra class hams doing just that on 10M!!! Kim W5TIT |
Kim W5TIT wrote:
hear one of the local Extra class hams doing just that on 10M!!! Kim W5TIT Sacrilege!! ;) -- GO# 40 Yeah. I didn't post this as a joke, either. This guy really used to do it. And, one of the reasons I can't stand HF operation (other than the biggest reason being the hiss) is that when we Tech+'s used to get on and do all the "is this freq in use", etc....all the good operating practices we'd been told were going to be *absolutes* on ham radio--nearly every time there'd be some General or higher licensee who'd get on over us and start calling CQ...or would go just off our freq and begin. Yep, there were good ones...just as there are good Novices, Techs, and Tech+'s. But, the bad ones ruin it for everyone. Kim W5TIT Well, I don't want to bash 10m as a band but it does seem to attract some abberant behaviour, and a bit more worldwide than the same that occurs on 75m and a few selected spots on 20. Much of the bad behaviour is by CBers faking callsigns - or recent CB'ers that have become Extras whilst still trying to kick the habit of being obnoxious. A shame really, but you are correct in your observations that the bad ones ruin it for everyone, and if not ruined, it gives everyone else something to whine about resulting in the appearance that everything is ruined. The streets are full of people who **** themselves and fart liberally. They don't magically disappear when you tune the amateur bands. Thats what all those tuning knobs are for. -Bill |
--Bill-- wrote:
Kim W5TIT wrote: hear one of the local Extra class hams doing just that on 10M!!! Kim W5TIT Sacrilege!! ;) -- GO# 40 Yeah. I didn't post this as a joke, either. This guy really used to do it. And, one of the reasons I can't stand HF operation (other than the biggest reason being the hiss) is that when we Tech+'s used to get on and do all the "is this freq in use", etc....all the good operating practices we'd been told were going to be *absolutes* on ham radio--nearly every time there'd be some General or higher licensee who'd get on over us and start calling CQ...or would go just off our freq and begin. Yep, there were good ones...just as there are good Novices, Techs, and Tech+'s. But, the bad ones ruin it for everyone. Kim W5TIT Well, I don't want to bash 10m as a band but it does seem to attract some abberant behaviour, and a bit more worldwide than the same that occurs on 75m and a few selected spots on 20. Much of the bad behaviour is by CBers faking callsigns - or recent CB'ers that have become Extras whilst still trying to kick the habit of being obnoxious. I'm sure you have some sort of data to back that claim, or no? -- GO# 40 |
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... --Bill-- wrote: Kim W5TIT wrote: hear one of the local Extra class hams doing just that on 10M!!! Kim W5TIT Sacrilege!! ;) -- GO# 40 Yeah. I didn't post this as a joke, either. This guy really used to do it. And, one of the reasons I can't stand HF operation (other than the biggest reason being the hiss) is that when we Tech+'s used to get on and do all the "is this freq in use", etc....all the good operating practices we'd been told were going to be *absolutes* on ham radio--nearly every time there'd be some General or higher licensee who'd get on over us and start calling CQ...or would go just off our freq and begin. Yep, there were good ones...just as there are good Novices, Techs, and Tech+'s. But, the bad ones ruin it for everyone. Kim W5TIT Well, I don't want to bash 10m as a band but it does seem to attract some abberant behaviour, and a bit more worldwide than the same that occurs on 75m and a few selected spots on 20. Much of the bad behaviour is by CBers faking callsigns - or recent CB'ers that have become Extras whilst still trying to kick the habit of being obnoxious. I'm sure you have some sort of data to back that claim, or no? -- GO# 40 All one need to is turn on the HF radio and listen around. There are crappy CBers too, Morph. Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
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... "Kim W5TIT" wrote: wrote in message ... --Bill-- wrote: Kim W5TIT wrote: hear one of the local Extra class hams doing just that on 10M!!! Kim W5TIT Sacrilege!! ;) -- GO# 40 Yeah. I didn't post this as a joke, either. This guy really used to do it. And, one of the reasons I can't stand HF operation (other than the biggest reason being the hiss) is that when we Tech+'s used to get on and do all the "is this freq in use", etc....all the good operating practices we'd been told were going to be *absolutes* on ham radio--nearly every time there'd be some General or higher licensee who'd get on over us and start calling CQ...or would go just off our freq and begin. Yep, there were good ones...just as there are good Novices, Techs, and Tech+'s. But, the bad ones ruin it for everyone. Kim W5TIT Well, I don't want to bash 10m as a band but it does seem to attract some abberant behaviour, and a bit more worldwide than the same that occurs on 75m and a few selected spots on 20. Much of the bad behaviour is by CBers faking callsigns - or recent CB'ers that have become Extras whilst still trying to kick the habit of being obnoxious. I'm sure you have some sort of data to back that claim, or no? -- GO# 40 All one need to is turn on the HF radio and listen around. There are crappy CBers too, Morph. Kim W5TIT Oh I agree Kim, what I don't agree with is "most" of the bad behavior is caused by CBer's on HF. -- GO# 40 Gotcha! Well, you know broad paintbrushes are the tools of choice today. The current Administration has made it very popular.... ;) Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
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--Bill-- wrote: wrote: --Bill-- wrote: Well, I don't want to bash 10m as a band but it does seem to attract some abberant behaviour, and a bit more worldwide than the same that occurs on 75m and a few selected spots on 20. Much of the bad behaviour is by CBers faking callsigns - or recent CB'ers that have become Extras whilst still trying to kick the habit of being obnoxious. I'm sure you have some sort of data to back that claim, or no? No, it would be a stoopid effort to collect such data just to defend the basic argument against morons. -Bill It takes a moron to make such stupid claims.. Have you ever bootlegged on 10 meters before, "Moparholic"? |
In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes: Gotcha! Well, you know broad paintbrushes are the tools of choice today. The current Administration has made it very popular.... ;) Kim: What kind of "broad paintbrushes" is the Bush Administration using? Are they anything like Hillary's "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? 73 de Larry, K3LT |
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
... In article , "Kim W5TIT" writes: Gotcha! Well, you know broad paintbrushes are the tools of choice today. The current Administration has made it very popular.... ;) Kim: What kind of "broad paintbrushes" is the Bush Administration using? Are they anything like Hillary's "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? 73 de Larry, K3LT Don't know, Larry. I don't pay much attention or give much credibility to the Clintons. Why don't you tell us about it? Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
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... (valmont) wrote: wrote in message ... --Bill-- wrote: wrote: --Bill-- wrote: Well, I don't want to bash 10m as a band but it does seem to attract some abberant behaviour, and a bit more worldwide than the same that occurs on 75m and a few selected spots on 20. Much of the bad behaviour is by CBers faking callsigns - or recent CB'ers that have become Extras whilst still trying to kick the habit of being obnoxious. I'm sure you have some sort of data to back that claim, or no? No, it would be a stoopid effort to collect such data just to defend the basic argument against morons. -Bill It takes a moron to make such stupid claims.. Have you ever bootlegged on 10 meters before, "Moparholic"? No I haven't, moron. -- GO# 40 Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. Well, along with the fact that now I realize what an idiot I was being. Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message ... Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. Well, along with the fact that now I realize what an idiot I was being. Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to Why did I suspect this about Kim? Attitude perhaps? Dan/W4NTI |
Kim W5TIT wrote:
Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) Such seems in character for you, Kim. I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. So, not because it was illegal, only so you don't lose your license. Dave K8MN |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
... Kim W5TIT wrote: Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) Such seems in character for you, Kim. I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. So, not because it was illegal, only so you don't lose your license. Dave K8MN Absolutely! The only reason I don't kill someone is because I don't believe in killing; not because it's illegal. Do you only refrain from doing things because they are illegal? You really should get out of that book! Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
Kim W5TIT wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) Such seems in character for you, Kim. I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. So, not because it was illegal, only so you don't lose your license. Absolutely! The only reason I don't kill someone is because I don't believe in killing; not because it's illegal. Do you only refrain from doing things because they are illegal? You really should get out of that book! So you don't believe in killing someone (which is illegal) but you didn't mind bootlegging on the radio (which is illegal). You believe in one but not the other. You'd have us believe that it is a simple matter of personal choice. If you believed in killing someone (which is illegal), the legality wouldn't matter to you by your logic. Society's rules are the ones which count, Kim. Dave K8MN |
Bert Craig wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) Such seems in character for you, Kim. I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. So, not because it was illegal, only so you don't lose your license. Dave K8MN Hi Dave, You kinda conveniently left out "Well, along with the fact that now I realize what an idiot I was being." I believe that pretty much answers your last query. I don't think it does as evidenced by her reply to my comments. We ALL make foolish errors in our youth and most of us eventually grow up, hopefully, wiser for the wear. It's got sump'n to do with casting the first stone or some such saying. ;-) Kim didn't write that this was stuff she'd done in her youth. I was never a bootlegger in my youth or in my adulthood. Were you? :-) Dave K8MN 73 de Bert WA2SI |
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 08:28:32 -0500, "Kim W5TIT"
wrote: Don't know, Larry. I don't pay much attention or give much credibility to the Clintons. Why don't you tell us about it? Don't need Larry for that, just look it up on the Internet. Some good keywords to try include draft-dodger, womanizer, and liar. 73 DE John, KC2HMZ Charter Member, Monica Lewinsky Fan Club (Tonawanda, NY Chapter) |
Kim W5TIT wrote:
"Bert Craig" wrote in message om... Dave Heil wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) Such seems in character for you, Kim. I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. So, not because it was illegal, only so you don't lose your license. Dave K8MN Hi Dave, You kinda conveniently left out "Well, along with the fact that now I realize what an idiot I was being." I believe that pretty much answers your last query. We ALL make foolish errors in our youth and most of us eventually grow up, hopefully, wiser for the wear. It's got sump'n to do with casting the first stone or some such saying. ;-) 73 de Bert WA2SI Thanks, Bert. I would have expected nothing else from Dave. Maybe you should have kept mum on your bootleg radio operations, Kim. Dave K8MN |
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Radio Amateur KC2HMZ wrote in message . ..
The conservative response (common in Texas, where I believe Kim lives): BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! (Sound of magazine being ejected and a fresh one rammed into place, followed by the sound of the slide racking another round into the chamber) Mr. Singh: "Did he move or was I seeing things?" Mr. Singh's 16-year old son: "He moved, dad, I saw him!" Mrs. Singh: "I think our son is right." BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! Mr. Singh's 9-year old daughter: "Nice group, daddy!" Now THAT is what I call crime abatement! (At least for the NEXT twerp to try it!) ROTMFFLMMFAO! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
... Bert Craig wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) Such seems in character for you, Kim. I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. So, not because it was illegal, only so you don't lose your license. Dave K8MN Hi Dave, You kinda conveniently left out "Well, along with the fact that now I realize what an idiot I was being." I believe that pretty much answers your last query. I don't think it does as evidenced by her reply to my comments. I do. We ALL make foolish errors in our youth and most of us eventually grow up, hopefully, wiser for the wear. It's got sump'n to do with casting the first stone or some such saying. ;-) Kim didn't write that this was stuff she'd done in her youth. I was never a bootlegger in my youth or in my adulthood. Were you? :-) That's very commendable, Dave. When I said we ALL make "mistakes," I certainly did not mean to limit it to just radio related violations. Yes, I have violated FCC rules in my youth and I'm mature enough to admit my past mistakes and grateful that I suffered no severe consequences as a result. I personally know not a single soul who has made NO mistakes in their youth, moral, legal, or both. If you fall in this category, then you've broken that streak and, once again, are to be commended. The important thing (To me, at least.) is that I AM wiser for the wear and am in a position to help someone else avoid those mistakes entirely based upon my experiences. BTW, one does not necessarily have to agree with a law/rule while obeying it. For ex. - I would never bootleg or run excessive power because it is wrong and causes harm. - I would never work DX on the legal 40 CB frequencies with 12 Watts P.E.P. because it's not worth risking my ticket over. (But I think it'd be a great recruitment tool.) It's a good thing we really don't go blind for doing some of the "wrong" things of our youth. With the amount of DX I worked on ch. 38 LSB on my Royce rig in '78/79, I'd be typing this post on a Braille keyboard. Take care now, OM. ;-) Dave K8MN 73 de Bert WA2SI -- 73 de Bert WA2SI |
Bert Craig wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ... Bert Craig wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: Kim didn't write that this was stuff she'd done in her youth. I was never a bootlegger in my youth or in my adulthood. Were you? :-) That's very commendable, Dave. When I said we ALL make "mistakes," I certainly did not mean to limit it to just radio related violations. Yes, I have violated FCC rules in my youth and I'm mature enough to admit my past mistakes and grateful that I suffered no severe consequences as a result. I personally know not a single soul who has made NO mistakes in their youth, moral, legal, or both. If you fall in this category, then you've broken that streak and, once again, are to be commended. Again, Kim did not indicate that her actions were something done in her youth. I wrote about radio violations because that was what was under discussion. If I wanted to generalize, I'd take it up in rec.soc.scofflaw. The important thing (To me, at least.) is that I AM wiser for the wear and am in a position to help someone else avoid those mistakes entirely based upon my experiences. BTW, one does not necessarily have to agree with a law/rule while obeying it. For ex. - I would never bootleg or run excessive power because it is wrong and causes harm. - I would never work DX on the legal 40 CB frequencies with 12 Watts P.E.P. because it's not worth risking my ticket over. (But I think it'd be a great recruitment tool.) I've never put forth the idea that one should obey a law because one agrees with it. Kim knew she was breaking the law and decided that she'd do it anyway. It's a good thing we really don't go blind for doing some of the "wrong" things of our youth. With the amount of DX I worked on ch. 38 LSB on my Royce rig in '78/79, I'd be typing this post on a Braille keyboard. Take care now, OM. ;-) So you knew you were breaking the law but decided it was okay? Was that all in your youth? Dave K8MN |
Regarding the title -- We real Hams are the facts
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"Dave Heil" wrote in message
... Bert Craig wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) Such seems in character for you, Kim. I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. So, not because it was illegal, only so you don't lose your license. Dave K8MN Hi Dave, You kinda conveniently left out "Well, along with the fact that now I realize what an idiot I was being." I believe that pretty much answers your last query. I don't think it does as evidenced by her reply to my comments. We ALL make foolish errors in our youth and most of us eventually grow up, hopefully, wiser for the wear. It's got sump'n to do with casting the first stone or some such saying. ;-) Kim didn't write that this was stuff she'd done in her youth. I was never a bootlegger in my youth or in my adulthood. Were you? :-) Dave K8MN 73 de Bert WA2SI Have you ever broken the law, in any way, Dave? Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
... In article , "Kim W5TIT" writes: Absolutely! The only reason I don't kill someone is because I don't believe in killing; not because it's illegal. Do you only refrain from doing things because they are illegal? You really should get out of that book! Kim W5TIT Kim: If an armed robber walks into a Seven Eleven and points his gun at Mr. Singh behind the counter, does Mr. Singh have the right to pull *his* gun and kill the robber? Remember two things -- 1. You don't believe in killing. 2. It is impossible to pick up a gun, point it at a human being, and pull the trigger without the rational expectation that you will kill the person you're aiming at. Now, please answer the Q. 73 de Larry, K3LT *I* don't believe in killing, Larry. What part of that don't you understand? What part of *I* don't you understand? Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message
om... Radio Amateur KC2HMZ wrote in message . .. The conservative response (common in Texas, where I believe Kim lives): BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! (Sound of magazine being ejected and a fresh one rammed into place, followed by the sound of the slide racking another round into the chamber) Mr. Singh: "Did he move or was I seeing things?" Mr. Singh's 16-year old son: "He moved, dad, I saw him!" Mrs. Singh: "I think our son is right." BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! Mr. Singh's 9-year old daughter: "Nice group, daddy!" Now THAT is what I call crime abatement! (At least for the NEXT twerp to try it!) ROTMFFLMMFAO! 73 Steve, K4YZ On the WHAT floor, laughing WHAT body part off?! 73/88, Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
... In article , Radio Amateur KC2HMZ writes: The conservative response (common in Texas, where I believe Kim lives): BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! (Sound of magazine being ejected and a fresh one rammed into place, followed by the sound of the slide racking another round into the chamber) Mr. Singh: "Did he move or was I seeing things?" Mr. Singh's 16-year old son: "He moved, dad, I saw him!" Mrs. Singh: "I think our son is right." BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! Mr. Singh's 9-year old daughter: "Nice group, daddy!" 73 DE John, KC2HMZ John: ROFLMFAOAPMGO! Really, (well, except for the PMGO, bit!). As far as I'm concerned, Texas is one of the few states that truly has it "right" where gun laws and a citizen's right to defend himself is concerned. And unlike here in Delaware, I'm sure all the Mr. Singh's and Mr. Said's running the conveneince stores generally don't worry about what's going to happen the next time a lone customer walks through the door at 11 PM. That's because all the Texas "perps" know that if they do try to knock the place over for a few bucks to buy some cocaine, they'll have to wade through a quagmire of 115 gr. 9mm GDHP's flying at them at 1400 fps to get at their intended target! That's bull. I don't know what statistics would say, but the local TV and radio news too often reports the deaths of store, gas station, and restaurant folks around the Dallas area. BTW, If I were the owner of a convenience store, I'd have a special door chime that played a .WAV of a 12-ga. pump-action shotgun being racked every time someone came in after sundown. And, you'd probably be local news. 73 de Larry, K3LT Member, NRA My Presidnet is Kayne Robinson Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
... Bert Craig wrote: "Dave Heil" wrote in message ... Bert Craig wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: Kim didn't write that this was stuff she'd done in her youth. I was never a bootlegger in my youth or in my adulthood. Were you? :-) That's very commendable, Dave. When I said we ALL make "mistakes," I certainly did not mean to limit it to just radio related violations. Yes, I have violated FCC rules in my youth and I'm mature enough to admit my past mistakes and grateful that I suffered no severe consequences as a result. I personally know not a single soul who has made NO mistakes in their youth, moral, legal, or both. If you fall in this category, then you've broken that streak and, once again, are to be commended. Again, Kim did not indicate that her actions were something done in her youth. I wrote about radio violations because that was what was under discussion. If I wanted to generalize, I'd take it up in rec.soc.scofflaw. Oh, I forgot about that excuse for Dave's "never breaking the law," the question of which I am sure he will either never answer, or use something like the above. The important thing (To me, at least.) is that I AM wiser for the wear and am in a position to help someone else avoid those mistakes entirely based upon my experiences. BTW, one does not necessarily have to agree with a law/rule while obeying it. For ex. - I would never bootleg or run excessive power because it is wrong and causes harm. - I would never work DX on the legal 40 CB frequencies with 12 Watts P.E.P. because it's not worth risking my ticket over. (But I think it'd be a great recruitment tool.) I've never put forth the idea that one should obey a law because one agrees with it. Kim knew she was breaking the law and decided that she'd do it anyway. It's a good thing we really don't go blind for doing some of the "wrong" things of our youth. With the amount of DX I worked on ch. 38 LSB on my Royce rig in '78/79, I'd be typing this post on a Braille keyboard. Take care now, OM. ;-) So you knew you were breaking the law but decided it was okay? Was that all in your youth? Dave K8MN So, Dave. About the speeding, yes? No? Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
Kim W5TIT wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: "Dave Heil" wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) Such seems in character for you, Kim. I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. So, not because it was illegal, only so you don't lose your license. Absolutely! The only reason I don't kill someone is because I don't believe in killing; not because it's illegal. Do you only refrain from doing things because they are illegal? You really should get out of that book! So you don't believe in killing someone (which is illegal) but you didn't mind bootlegging on the radio (which is illegal). You believe in one but not the other. You'd have us believe that it is a simple matter of personal choice. If you believed in killing someone (which is illegal), the legality wouldn't matter to you by your logic. Society's rules are the ones which count, Kim. Only to the people who think society matters, Dave. Those are the individuals who make civilization work. Right, then. We'll put you down for anarchy. So, you've never, ever broken the speed limit, eh? Not deliberately, Kim. In my three years back in the U.S., I've logged over 100,000 miles on the highways. I've not even been stopped for a warning. On the interstate highways I set my cruise control for the speed limit and let those who are in a hurry blow by. But all of this is just a diversionary attempt on your part. How about addressing the point of whether you believe that you can pick and choose which laws to obey? Dave K8MN |
Kim W5TIT wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message ... Bert Craig wrote: Dave Heil wrote in message ... Kim W5TIT wrote: Whenever I used to bootleg--and I did before I was licensed, I always made extra sure to stay out of ham radio frequencies--most hams know too much about R&R and DFing. ;) Such seems in character for you, Kim. I won't do it now but only because I don't want to compromise my license. So, not because it was illegal, only so you don't lose your license. Dave K8MN Hi Dave, You kinda conveniently left out "Well, along with the fact that now I realize what an idiot I was being." I believe that pretty much answers your last query. I don't think it does as evidenced by her reply to my comments. We ALL make foolish errors in our youth and most of us eventually grow up, hopefully, wiser for the wear. It's got sump'n to do with casting the first stone or some such saying. ;-) Kim didn't write that this was stuff she'd done in her youth. I was never a bootlegger in my youth or in my adulthood. Were you? :-) Dave K8MN 73 de Bert WA2SI Have you ever broken the law, in any way, Dave? Not deliberately, Kim. I'm not a scofflaw. How about it, Kim: Were your bootlegging days part of youthful transgressions or were you a supposedly mature adult? Dave K8MN |
In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes: Kim: If an armed robber walks into a Seven Eleven and points his gun at Mr. Singh behind the counter, does Mr. Singh have the right to pull *his* gun and kill the robber? Remember two things -- 1. You don't believe in killing. 2. It is impossible to pick up a gun, point it at a human being, and pull the trigger without the rational expectation that you will kill the person you're aiming at. Now, please answer the Q. 73 de Larry, K3LT *I* don't believe in killing, Larry. What part of that don't you understand? What part of *I* don't you understand? Kim W5TIT Kim: Sooo, you don't believe in killing to defend your own life, or the life of a third party? You don't believe people have the right to defend their own lives with deadly force? If some terrorist wacko started shooting innocent people in a subway station, you wouldn't want a police officer to shoot him to protect innocent lives? I don't believe in killing either, Kim. Killing is not something that any decent, law-abiding, morally conscious person would want to do. However, if faced with a life-or-death situation, I would not hesitate to respond with deadly force in order to protect my own life or the lives of others. That is a very important distinction. If you honestly believe that nobody has a legitimate right to defend life with deadly force, should the need arise, then you are obviously not looking at this subject from a rational point of view. I hope that you are never personally faced with that situation. 73 de Larry, K3LT |
"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message ...
On the WHAT floor, laughing WHAT body part off?! If I HAVE to tell ya...!!! =) 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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