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Ham Radio Rescue in California Press
Nothing like a bit of truth to unravel rants:
FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE: Ham radio key in California hiker's rescue (Jul 24, 2003) -- The San Diego Union Tribune's SignOnSanDiego.com Web news service reports that a hiker in the El Capitan open space preserve suffering apparent heat exhaustion was rescued July 19 after his hiking companion used ham radio to relay a message to authorities. ARRL member Rod Dinkins, AC6V, of Oceanside picked up the distress call from Tim Slaby, KG6QPL, of Spring Valley and alerted the San Diego County Sheriff's Department's Santee station. (my emphasis added:) Slaby resorted to his handheld transceiver after discovering that his cellphone wouldn't work in the wilderness. (RESUME) KG6QPL was able to raise the Palomar Amateur Radio Club repeater some 40 miles away, however. Slaby, who also carried a GPS unit, was able to provide the pair's precise location. A sheriff's helicopter crew rescued the exhausted hiker--identified as Thomas Sayer--and airlifted him to an ambulance, which transported him to a hospital, authorities said. He was treated for dehydration and released about four hours. "For hikers in need of help, Amateur Radio worked where their cell phone didn't," said ARRL Vice President (and former Southwestern Division Director) Fried Heyn, WA6WZO. UNQUOTE Nice job, Rod and Tim! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
"Steve Robeson, K4CAP" wrote in message
om... Nothing like a bit of truth to unravel rants: FROM THE ARRL WEBSITE: Ham radio key in California hiker's rescue (Jul 24, 2003) -- The San Diego Union Tribune's SignOnSanDiego.com Web news service reports that a hiker in the El Capitan open space preserve suffering apparent heat exhaustion was rescued July 19 after his hiking companion used ham radio to relay a message to authorities. ARRL member Rod Dinkins, AC6V, of Oceanside picked up the distress call from Tim Slaby, KG6QPL, of Spring Valley and alerted the San Diego County Sheriff's Department's Santee station. (my emphasis added:) Slaby resorted to his handheld transceiver after discovering that his cellphone wouldn't work in the wilderness. (RESUME) KG6QPL was able to raise the Palomar Amateur Radio Club repeater some 40 miles away, however. Slaby, who also carried a GPS unit, was able to provide the pair's precise location. A sheriff's helicopter crew rescued the exhausted hiker--identified as Thomas Sayer--and airlifted him to an ambulance, which transported him to a hospital, authorities said. He was treated for dehydration and released about four hours. "For hikers in need of help, Amateur Radio worked where their cell phone didn't," said ARRL Vice President (and former Southwestern Division Director) Fried Heyn, WA6WZO. UNQUOTE Nice job, Rod and Tim! 73 Steve, K4YZ Yeah, and note that it was a phone transmission that did the job. That's not a slam at CW, it's a slam at the CW zealots. Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
Yeah, and note that it was a phone transmission that did the job. That's not a slam at CW, it's a slam at the CW zealots. Kim W5TIT And what EXACTLY does that have to do with the story? The focus of the story was ham radio used in a rescue. It's good PR for ham radio, no matter if the transmission was phone, cw, psk-31, sstv, rtty, etc, etc, etc. David K5DEL |
"David Lafferty" wrote in message
... Yeah, and note that it was a phone transmission that did the job. That's not a slam at CW, it's a slam at the CW zealots. Kim W5TIT And what EXACTLY does that have to do with the story? The focus of the story was ham radio used in a rescue. It's good PR for ham radio, no matter if the transmission was phone, cw, psk-31, sstv, rtty, etc, etc, etc. David K5DEL And, you're exactly right. It is good PR for ham radio. We will all do what we will the basis of the story. Are you dictating how I should act? Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
And, you're exactly right. It is good PR for ham radio. We will all do what we will the basis of the story. Are you dictating how I should act? Kim W5TIT While tempting, I do support everyone's right to express their thoughts. Even when they have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. I see you still did not answer my question as to what mode was used had to do with the events of the rescue. It appears to be an attempt to start another CW VS Anti-CW discussion. Gee, we sure don't have enough of those. At the store this morning, I saw prices for oranges were cheaper than the apples. This statement has about as much to do with the story as your's did. David K5DEL |
"David Lafferty" wrote in message ... And, you're exactly right. It is good PR for ham radio. We will all do what we will the basis of the story. Are you dictating how I should act? Kim W5TIT While tempting, I do support everyone's right to express their thoughts. Even when they have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. I see you still did not answer my question as to what mode was used had to do with the events of the rescue. It appears to be an attempt to start another CW VS Anti-CW discussion. Gee, we sure don't have enough of those. At the store this morning, I saw prices for oranges were cheaper than the apples. This statement has about as much to do with the story as your's did. David K5DEL When she applied for her vanity call she actually requested; W5TWIT. She was told it was to long... Dan/W4NTI |
When she applied for her vanity call she actually requested;
W5TWIT. She was told it was to long... Dan/W4NTI Best smile I've had today Dan... |
When she applied for her vanity call she actually requested;
W5TWIT. She was told it was to long... Dan/W4NTI Her 2nd choice wa W5**** |
"WA8ULX" wrote in message
... When she applied for her vanity call she actually requested; W5TWIT. She was told it was to long... Dan/W4NTI Her 2nd choice wa W5**** I guess you folks don't know the format of callsigns. One cannot get a 1X4. You sure do behave like the very "CBer" type folks that you vilify! Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
"David Lafferty" wrote in message
... And, you're exactly right. It is good PR for ham radio. We will all do what we will the basis of the story. Are you dictating how I should act? Kim W5TIT While tempting, I do support everyone's right to express their thoughts. Even when they have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. I see you still did not answer my question as to what mode was used had to do with the events of the rescue. It appears to be an attempt to start another CW VS Anti-CW discussion. Gee, we sure don't have enough of those. At the store this morning, I saw prices for oranges were cheaper than the apples. This statement has about as much to do with the story as your's did. David K5DEL David, you have your way of interpreting and commenting on stories, and I will too. Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
I guess you folks don't know the format of callsigns. One cannot get a 1X4.
You sure do behave like the very "CBer" type folks that you vilify! Kim W5TIT Well isnt that what Ham radio is anymore? |
shouldn't that be a clue
to you as to who it is that may be ruining ham radio? Kim W5TIT Well TIT i figure you CBplussers have done a pretty good job so far, so I might as well help you the finish the process. |
You just couldn't some up with something both valid and cutsey, could you. Kim W5TIT I never got into the previous discussions on your callsign, but some, including me, find it in poor taste instead of "valid and cutsey". David K5DEL |
In article , "David Lafferty"
writes: Yeah, and note that it was a phone transmission that did the job. That's not a slam at CW, it's a slam at the CW zealots. Kim W5TIT And what EXACTLY does that have to do with the story? The focus of the story was ham radio used in a rescue. It's good PR for ham radio, no matter if the transmission was phone, cw, psk-31, sstv, rtty, etc, etc, etc. David K5DEL David: Save your fingertips on this one. Kim can always be counted on to make inane, specious arguments against CW and "CW zealots" anytime a story like this comes out. If the story had been about how the hikers setup a backpack portable HF/QRP station and called for help using CW, she would insist that it didn't prove a damn thing. She can't be bothered to learn a useful communications skill like the Morse code, and she needs to grasp at any straw she can in order to prove her point. 73 de Larry, K3LT |
In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes: Yeah, and note that it was a phone transmission that did the job. That's not a slam at CW, it's a slam at the CW zealots. Kim W5TIT Kim: Of course, the lost hikers were lucky that A. They were in California, which is thoroughly blanketed with repeaters on the tops of high mountains, and B. They had an HT and a GPS receiver. Repeat the scenario in the middle of Kansas and their mileage will start to vary! Then they just might wish they had a backpack HF setup, complete with a CW key! Still, I personally think that this *is* a very impressive demonstration of amateur radio's emergency response capability. Unfortunately for you and the rest of the NCTA, the only place where it proves anything negative about CW or the PCTA's is in your own mind! 73 de Larry, K3LT |
"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote in message
... In article , "David Lafferty" writes: Yeah, and note that it was a phone transmission that did the job. That's not a slam at CW, it's a slam at the CW zealots. Kim W5TIT And what EXACTLY does that have to do with the story? The focus of the story was ham radio used in a rescue. It's good PR for ham radio, no matter if the transmission was phone, cw, psk-31, sstv, rtty, etc, etc, etc. David K5DEL David: Save your fingertips on this one. Kim can always be counted on to make inane, specious arguments against CW and "CW zealots" anytime a story like this comes out. When have I ever made an argument against CW, Larry? Put up or shut up, in your words. If the story had been about how the hikers setup a backpack portable HF/QRP station and called for help using CW, she would insist that it didn't prove a damn thing. You are so foamed at the mouth with your insensibility that you can't see the forest for the trees, Larry. I have no argument whatsoever against the use of CW. I do NOT believe, as you, that CW is the cure all that you think it is. There are notable CW enthusiasts that share this also, Larry. What would you say of them? *IF* this story had been about how the hikers had set up a backpack portable HF/QRP station and called for help using CW, AND *if* they'd gotten it, I would have said two things: 1) that they were lucky to have someone on "the other end" that understood CW, and 2) that they could have traveled a lot lighter if they'd just carried an HT. To tell you the truth, I'm impressed that ANY radio worked to contact someone and, just as you say, I'm sure it is because of the density of repeaters in their area. You're right. Kansas would have been a whole different situation. She can't be bothered to learn a useful communications skill like the Morse code, and she needs to grasp at any straw she can in order to prove her point. 73 de Larry, K3LT I did learn a useful communications skill, Larry. I learned it well enough to pass the requirements set forth by the United States Government. Now, if you have a problem with your government, you need to let them know. And, you cannot dictate your standards to other people. You do live in the United States. My point about CW is what, Larry? Why don't you answer that question. Hell, Dick hasn't even answered my question about what it would take for him to have a disaster setup for CW, what all would he need. Hell, for that matter, you won't even answer my questions, Larry. You guys spew your hate and contempt for other people out of the mouths that God gave you. And that's all it ends up being with you: hate. You are disgusting. Answer the damn question, Larry. What do *YOU* think my point about CW is? Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
"David Lafferty" wrote in message
... David, you have your way of interpreting and commenting on stories, and I will too. Kim W5TIT Reminds me of a retired boss I used to have. Real nice guy, but could not always track with the discussion at hand. I remember one day during an important meeting when the "big" boss was making a very important point. Right in the middle of the big boss making what he believed to be the most important point of the meeting, the guy who had trouble tracking pointed out the window and stated "Why there goes a red tail hawk!" The big boss just shook his head. I guess I'll follow his lead in the future... David K5DEL Thank you. That way you won't waste so much of your time. Kim W5TIT --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
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Oh goody. Another Larry Roll clone.
lmfao... |
Why bring up the CW debate, Th e story had nothing to due with the pros or cons
of CW . I have not been reading these news groups for a while for just this reason. All any of you can talk or fight about is CW. If you Kim are so concered with CW just start another CW thread. You are like a two year old fighting for the shovle in a sand box. Give it a rest. |
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In article , "Kim W5TIT"
writes: Answer the damn question, Larry. What do *YOU* think my point about CW is? The standard NCTA bullet points, Kim. I've never seen you come up with anything original. 73 de Larry, K3LT That is a cop-out of an answer, Larry. Kim: Except for the fact that it is the TRUTH. Of course, you would never recognize that, particularly when it is in reference to yourself. 73 de Larry, K3LT |
Well the guide to Amateur Radio newsgroups at URL:
http://faqs.jmas.co.jp/FAQs/radio/personal-intro Sez The group rec.radio.amateur.policy was created as a place for all the discussions that seem to drag on interminably about the many rules, regulations, legalities, and policies that surround amateur radio, both existing and proposed. Recent changes to the Amateur Radio Rules (FCC Part 97) have finally laid to rest the Great Usenet Pizza Autopatch Debate - it's now legal to order a pizza on the autopatch, if you're not in the pizza business - as well as complaints about now-preempted local scanner laws hostile to amateurs, but plenty of discussion about what a bunch of rotten no-goodniks the local frequency coordinating body is, as well as the neverending no-code debate, may still be found here. Some of you have turned it into "a Morse/CW debate newsgroup" exclusively. Hiker rescue has legal issues as a ham in california found out when he called in on an Authority frequency with a modified HT. Rescue was performed, but his HT was confiscated! "Brian" wrote in message om... (Kf6vyh) wrote in message ... Why bring up the CW debate, Th e story had nothing to due with the pros or cons of CW . I have not been reading these news groups for a while for just this reason. All any of you can talk or fight about is CW. If you Kim are so concered with CW just start another CW thread. You are like a two year old fighting for the shovle in a sand box. Give it a rest. There is no rest. This is a Morse/CW debate newsgroup. I could suggest alt.survival if you want rescue stories. Brian |
I could suggest alt.survival if you want rescue stories.
Lord I wish there was an alt.cw.debate.ad nauseous newsgroup Three years of the same old pro-code, no-code rationalizations, insults, obscenities, and sheer nonsense. Thousands of them off topic, loaded with shameful personal attacks and self-serving brag tape lies. Go to google select groups and advanced search for rec.radio.amateur.policy search for code Get 55,000 results As the man sed "Give it a rest" Why not get back to the intended purpose of this newsgroup as previously posted? Stop the personal attacks and obscenities and give Amateur Radio a good name. Somewhere out there is a alien space ship reading all this and observing "Strange Society. Make course for home Scotty -- no sign of intelligence here" "Brian" wrote in message om... (Kf6vyh) wrote in message ... Why bring up the CW debate, Th e story had nothing to due with the pros or cons of CW . I have not been reading these news groups for a while for just this reason. All any of you can talk or fight about is CW. If you Kim are so concered with CW just start another CW thread. You are like a two year old fighting for the shovle in a sand box. Give it a rest. There is no rest. This is a Morse/CW debate newsgroup. I could suggest alt.survival if you want rescue stories. Brian |
In article TKQVa.16115$ff.8006@fed1read01, "Elmer E Ing"
writes: Hiker rescue has legal issues as a ham in california found out when he called in on an Authority frequency with a modified HT. Rescue was performed, but his HT was confiscated! Yep - but you gotta tell "the rest of the story"..... The ham in question called for help on a police frequency, which he was not authorized to use. Yes, anyone can use any frequency or mode in a life-or-death emergency when there is no other option, but the authorities demonstrated that the ham's HT would bring up several local repeaters from the rescue site - all of which had autopatch that could call 911. Case closed. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
Whether or not YOU don't like it, this newsgroup BEGAN EXISTANCE to discuss the code test issue. :-) 1) No your are wrong you idiot. 2) the title of the newsgroup is rec.radio.amateur.policy NOT CW.PRO.CON If Kim had spent the energy she has bitching about CW on learning CW she may have passed it by now. IT'S NOT THAT HARD |
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