Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , "Carl R. Stevenson"
writes:

"N2EY" wrote in message
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"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message
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"N2EY" wrote in message
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Now you're trying to tell us that incentive licensing PROMOTED
growth in ham radio??? I don't think so ...

More likely the boom after WWII (and Korea) was due to military
radio folks becoming hams when they got out ...

Now, now. Rev. Jimmie LIVED THOSE TIMES. He KNOWS.

:-)

You've told us about morse landline telegraphy. Did you LIVE THOSE
TIMES? Do you KNOW? Maybe you read it in a BOOK or saw an article on
the WEB. :-)

Irrelevant. No one in here lived in 1844 when morse code was first used
in commercial landline communications.

No one in here lived when Marconi did his first radio communications in
Switzerland in 1895, or proved in Italy in 1896...using morse code for
on-off keying of a spark transmitter.

No one in here lived when the Titanic went down and mighty morse code
managed to get through for rescuing some...morse code could get
through because there was NOTHING ELSE to compare it with.

What I wrote was precisely relevant. You wrote of someone's having not
been alive when something took place. I pointed out that you weren't
alive during some of the things which you've pontificated on in this
venue.

Try reading a BOOK on the REST of the world of radio instead of what
if spoon-fed you by the little publisher in Newington.

"YOU have NO authority to call anyone anything, demean them,
make fun of them, or anything else...yet YOU continue to do so.
That indicates the perversity of your control-freak psychosis."

--Leonard H. Anderson

You might find out
that the REST OF THE RADIO WORLD has gone beyond amateurism.

What the hell are you prattling about?

There is NO need in the rest of the radio world for DX contesting or
morsemanship skills or collecting QSL cards.

Did you have a point?

The boom in the 60's was probably due to the emergence of economical
JA radios, a general increase in the interest in electronics, and later,
the
emergence of VHF/UHF FM and repeaters ...

Incorrect. There was no boom of JA radios in the 1960's.

Of course not. Hallicrafters, National Radio, RME, Collins were all
having terrific sales, snowing the amateur market with ham gear.

Right. Sure. Where are they now?

Collins quit the ham market long ago. Hallicrafters folded or something
even longer ago. National Radio went for the military electronics stuff
quitting ham radio sales. Even Heathkit went belly-up.

Are you in some kind of dream world where you think Yaesu, Icom,
Kenwood, and JRC are "American" companies?!?!?

You certainly wrote a large number of diversionary words to cover your
gaffe. There was no boom of Japanese ham gear in the 1960's. Is it
clear now?

It's difficult for even old-timers to understand a postwar boom period
and
the Cold War getting hotter when they've just reached First Grade. :-)

I don't know about when you were in school, Len. They provided us
history books. Most of us figured out that there was additional
historical material available. :-) :-)

Paper, moveable type, and the printing press were all invented LONG
before 1844 and the first use of commercial morse code
communications.

I was a working radio professional in 1952 when the Cold War was
already started. Are you saying your holiness as a school boy has
MORE experience in Cold War life?!?!?

Why no, Len, not as a school boy. I certainly have more governmental
communications experience during the cold war.

The holier-than-thou old-timers insist on the "no-coders" to do all
the technical advancements in amateur radio. Never mind that they
weren't able to do much in a half century. :-)

What's it to you?

Stuff it, Colonel Klunk.

You aren't involved. If you're to make any technical
advancements in amateur radio, you'd better get cracking.

Stuff it twice. YOU are NOT a judge. You are NOT an official who can
"run" the US amateur radio community. You are NOT in government
anymore and were NEVER a radio regulator at the FCC.

It doesn't take a regulator to truthfully state that you weren't
involved and are not involved in amateur radio. Don't tell me what I am
to amateur radio. I'm a licensed ham and have been for decades. You,
quite truthfully are not involved at all in amateur radio. You aren't a
judge of what hams do or have done. You are not a regulator.

I've had a successful career in PROFESSIONAL radio-electronics and
still enjoy that in retirement. Radio-electronics has been a fun hobby
for me for a longer time.

Trust me. Things have a way of evening out.

Now tell us, great big four-decade experienced AMATEUR radio god,
what have YOU ever done to "advance amateur radio?!?"

No, I don't believe I will, Len.

Show us your patents, your marvelous discoveries, all your important technical contributions.

Still have your patent fetish?

You've had FORTY YEARS of amateurism
and all you can come up with is trying to put down folks in an amateur
newsgroup?!?

Folks? Well, there's you. Then again, you aren't a ham. You're just a
groupie.

In this game, you aren't nobility and you aren't a peasant. You're an
onlooker.

That's all you are, big radio god of the AMATEUR bands.

You've got it wrong, Len. I have a license and have had it for decades.
I make contacts via amateur radio daily. I'm a participant in amateur
radio. I don't issue catcalls from the sidelines. The guy who does
that is you.

A hot-air balloon who plays with ready-built radios and talks tuff as a
newsgroupie.

Why, Len, you're the wanna-be.

Get a better life.

I'm quite happy with this one, Len. Yours seems to be a little lacking
in light of your ham radio envy.

Dave K8MN