"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
...
"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
.. .
"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:

Ed Hare, W1RFI, of the ARRL isn't the only one
measuring the interference at the BPL pilot
test sites ... I was in a meeting today with
folks from NTIA (the equivalent of the FCC
for federal govt. users of the spectrum) and
they are out doing measurements, too. The
meeting was about something else, but I got
the impression that they aren't happy with
what they are seeing either ...


I'm glad to hear that. Hopefully the studies will generate results
that
will get someone's attention. Regardless, BPL is obviously going to be
tough
to fight.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Whew....someone finally gets it--just kidding, Dwight. You probably "had"
it all along. That is exactly what my rattling has been all about. I
just
don't see this fight being won (from the amateur radio perspective) and, I
think there a "ways around" BPL interference. So, where do we spend the
energy? Before, or after and, on what? I'd rather think that the way to
fight BPL and win (for sure) is to get busy designing, testing and
implementing ways around it, *before* it becomes the major issue that it
will--because, like I said, I don't see this fight being won. Way, way
too
much commercial interest--the very people that feed the pockets of the
politicians.

Kim W5TIT



If it was JUST ham radio that would affected then your right. No way in
hell. However it isn't just ham radio. Its any user at all on HF and low
VHF...and PROBABLY due to harmonics , etc way up the spectrum.

I think we a missing the boat of how to fight this thing tho. The ARRL
recently signed a agreement on 'first response' being a HAM RADIO thing.
This with DHS (Department of Homeland Security). Should we not be pushing
this fact? Its gonna be real tough to be a first responder with all kinds
of radio goodies and no way to hear each other.

Oh sure now I hear....it not gonna bother the 2 meter and above bands.
WANNA BET?????????????

Dan/W4NTI

I have recently been reading on this thread and agree with all points
made in it.

In my observation, it goes like this:

When a lot of Amateur Radio Operators (A.K.A., private citizens) get
their toes stepped on, gather under the banner of their (arguably)
representative organization (A.K.A., The ARRL) and say, "No, No! Look
at these problems," the answer from regulatory agencies is, "Ahem...yes,
well we'll do a study of this data and let you know the results," and
then nothing else is heard about it.

But When the GUM'MIT get's IT'S toes stepped on and says, "No, No,"
generally it's, 'NO, NO!"

===============================================

Dan/W4NTI wrote:

"Kim W5TIT" wrote in message
...

"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
...

"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:

Ed Hare, W1RFI, of the ARRL isn't the only one
measuring the interference at the BPL pilot
test sites ... I was in a meeting today with
folks from NTIA (the equivalent of the FCC
for federal govt. users of the spectrum) and
they are out doing measurements, too. The
meeting was about something else, but I got
the impression that they aren't happy with
what they are seeing either ...


I'm glad to hear that. Hopefully the studies will generate results

that

will get someone's attention. Regardless, BPL is obviously going to be

tough

to fight.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Whew....someone finally gets it--just kidding, Dwight. You probably "had"
it all along. That is exactly what my rattling has been all about. I

just

don't see this fight being won (from the amateur radio perspective) and, I
think there a "ways around" BPL interference. So, where do we spend the
energy? Before, or after and, on what? I'd rather think that the way to
fight BPL and win (for sure) is to get busy designing, testing and
implementing ways around it, *before* it becomes the major issue that it
will--because, like I said, I don't see this fight being won. Way, way

too

much commercial interest--the very people that feed the pockets of the
politicians.

Kim W5TIT




If it was JUST ham radio that would affected then your right. No way in
hell. However it isn't just ham radio. Its any user at all on HF and low
VHF...and PROBABLY due to harmonics , etc way up the spectrum.

I think we a missing the boat of how to fight this thing tho. The ARRL
recently signed a agreement on 'first response' being a HAM RADIO thing.
This with DHS (Department of Homeland Security). Should we not be pushing
this fact? Its gonna be real tough to be a first responder with all kinds
of radio goodies and no way to hear each other.

Oh sure now I hear....it not gonna bother the 2 meter and above bands.
WANNA BET?????????????

Dan/W4NTI



--
73 from Glenn - KG5UC