In article , Dwight Stewart
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote:

The special election in regards to recalling the
Governor of the state of California has nothing
whatsoever to do with amateur radio. (snip)

Since when is that a major concern?

There are plenty of OTHER newsgroups for political arguments, Dwight.

Neither morse code nor amateur radio is on the special election
concerning recall of the elected Governor of California.

This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

Read back over this newsgroup. During
the last presidential election, several thousand messages were posted on
that subject alone.

Oh, my, that makes it "right," does it? I don't think so...


In fact, just about every major event happening in the
world recently has been discussed in this newsgroup at some point (and more
than a few minor events). The California recall vote is certainly not going
to be an exception to that.

"Dissed," not discussed, Dwight.

There's been a whole lot of spleen-venting by a lot of ignorant keyboard
rattlers concerning "world geopolitics," all done by those who don't have
a good clue as to what they are about.

If you are not a registered voter in California,
then you have no cause to carry on as if you were
nor have you any authority whatsoever on
California politics.

Nonsense. What happens in this country, anywhere in this country, is of
interest to any American. What happens in California, or any other state,
has an impact on the rest of the nation.

Nonsense...to the easterners who never considered California as ever
belonging to the union. :-)

There's NO amateur radio in the special recall election in California.

So, while it is true those outside
the state don't vote in California, that clearly doesn't prevent them from
commenting on the subject.

I'm aware. :-)

I'm also aware of the provincial bigotry of easterners and enviousness
of the most populous state in the USA (about 1 in 8 Americans live
here) and the fact that California's budget ranks 5th through 7th
(depending on standards) of world NATIONS.

Just the same, there is NOTHING about amateur radio in the special
recall election in California. Nothing.

Go bitch about something non-amateur elsewhere...

LHA

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , Dwight Stewart
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote:

The special election in regards to recalling the
Governor of the state of California has nothing
whatsoever to do with amateur radio. (snip)

Since when is that a major concern?

There are plenty of OTHER newsgroups for political arguments, Dwight.

But we like THIS one ya Putz. So we'll continue to post whatever we
want to post. Right here. Any time. No matter what. Particularly no
matter what you post.


Neither morse code nor amateur radio is on the special election
concerning recall of the elected Governor of California.

This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

Ya mean like your endless megabytes of snoozer posts about your '50s
Army RTTY crap have been about HAM RADIO POLICY Putz? Or how 'bout we
get into how your complete lack of credentials in ham radio
"qualifies" you to spout off about ham radio policy?


Read back over this newsgroup. During
the last presidential election, several thousand messages were posted on
that subject alone.

Oh, my, that makes it "right," does it? I don't think so...

The cold hard nut of the matter is that nobody gives a rat's ass what
you think is "right" or "wrong". In fact that's an oxymoron in itself.
You're just an outsider around here Putz.


In fact, just about every major event happening in the
world recently has been discussed in this newsgroup at some point (and more
than a few minor events). The California recall vote is certainly not going
to be an exception to that.

"Dissed," not discussed, Dwight.

It's neither Putz, it's just entertaining as hell. As in one more
unlimited source of La-la Land guffaws n' giggles. It's kinda grim
elsewhere, we all need a bit of comic relief so La-la Land comes up
with another one. Quite timely actually.


There's been a whole lot of spleen-venting by a lot of ignorant keyboard
rattlers concerning "world geopolitics," all done by those who don't have
a good clue as to what they are about.

And of course you do know, you're the Henry KIssingeer & Colin Powell
of RRAP. More humor from La-la Land.


If you are not a registered voter in California,
then you have no cause to carry on as if you were
nor have you any authority whatsoever on
California politics.

Nonsense. What happens in this country, anywhere in this country, is of
interest to any American. What happens in California, or any other state,
has an impact on the rest of the nation.

Nonsense...to the easterners who never considered California as ever
belonging to the union. :-)

For damned good reasons too, and you're a good illustration.

Every country has pulled one monumental blooper of another. Swiping
La-la Land from the Mexicans was one of ours. I vote we give it back.
I think there are others who will agree.


There's NO amateur radio in the special recall election in California.

Jim Weir gave up his ham license did he ya PUTZ?


So, while it is true those outside
the state don't vote in California, that clearly doesn't prevent them from
commenting on the subject.

I'm aware. :-)

I'm also aware of the provincial bigotry of easterners and enviousness

Bwaaahaha! No further comment req'd!


of the most populous state in the USA (about 1 in 8 Americans live
here) and the fact that California's budget ranks 5th through 7th
(depending on standards) of world NATIONS.

It's also been established that around one out of eight in any
generalized population is a kook. Lotta ramifications in that with
respect to La-la Land and YOU, ya PUTZ.


Just the same, there is NOTHING about amateur radio in the special
recall election in California. Nothing.

Go bitch about something non-amateur elsewhere...

Since you're not a ham why don't you follow you own "instructions" and
take your bitching about HAM RADIO POLICY somewhere else?

Hey Putz, you're missing a golden opportunity to exercise your
all-encompassing skills, experience and expertise on EVERYTHING. You
need to climb aboard one of the candidate's campaign organizations and
do your do. I'm thinking you'd be the perfect public relations
spinmeister for the Midget & Bimbo slate. You'd fit.

LHA

w3rv

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article , Dwight Stewart
writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote:

The special election in regards to recalling the
Governor of the state of California has nothing
whatsoever to do with amateur radio. (snip)

Since when is that a major concern?

There are plenty of OTHER newsgroups for political arguments, Dwight.

But we like THIS one ya Putz. So we'll continue to post whatever we
want to post. Right here. Any time. No matter what. Particularly no
matter what you post.

So...you think you OWN this newsgroup just by being here, ey? :-)

That's right in line with some of the old, old timers who park on some
ham band frequency forever and chase anyone else away by general
nastiness.

Sort of like squatter's rights. And so you squat. And squat.

Neither morse code nor amateur radio is on the special election
concerning recall of the elected Governor of California.

This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

Ya mean like your endless megabytes of snoozer posts about your '50s
Army RTTY crap have been about HAM RADIO POLICY Putz? Or how 'bout we
get into how your complete lack of credentials in ham radio
"qualifies" you to spout off about ham radio policy?

The special recall election in California is NOT about ham radio.

Radio is radio. The physics of it doesn't change despite what some old
timers squat and poop about "credentials."

Read back over this newsgroup. During
the last presidential election, several thousand messages were posted on
that subject alone.

Oh, my, that makes it "right," does it? I don't think so...

The cold hard nut of the matter is that nobody gives a rat's ass what
you think is "right" or "wrong". In fact that's an oxymoron in itself.
You're just an outsider around here Putz.

Outside of your elite little core group of Brass Pounder Leaguers,
you don't care anything at all about anyone else's viewpoints and are
determined to subjugate all to your royal views.

Everyone who doesn't agree with or worship your "achievements" are
in what you call "outsiders."

Your own "cold hard nut" seems to be giving you problems. Consult
a real MD to seek a cure.


"Dissed," not discussed, Dwight.

It's neither Putz, it's just entertaining as hell. As in one more
unlimited source of La-la Land guffaws n' giggles. It's kinda grim
elsewhere, we all need a bit of comic relief so La-la Land comes up
with another one. Quite timely actually.

Poor baby. Living there in hoagieland with NOTHING happening
and you want to diss the biggest state in the USA. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Typical easterner "we are the center of the universe" thinking. The
sun and the rest of the world revolves around you. [that may be what
causes your dizzyness?]


And of course you do know, you're the Henry KIssingeer & Colin Powell
of RRAP. More humor from La-la Land.

Oh, my, more name-calling vomit spewed, now trying for dissing some
notable government movers and shakers.

What has mighty morseman Kellie done that is so worthy of being
"superior" away from mouthing off in newsgroups?


Nonsense...to the easterners who never considered California as ever
belonging to the union. :-)

For damned good reasons too, and you're a good illustration.

Every country has pulled one monumental blooper of another. Swiping
La-la Land from the Mexicans was one of ours. I vote we give it back.
I think there are others who will agree.

Feel free to secede from California any time you want. California can
survive without hoagielanders. :-)

As usual, you mouth off without bothering to check history...but that's
such a common thing you do that it isn't worth trying to correct you.

There's NO amateur radio in the special recall election in California.

Jim Weir gave up his ham license did he ya PUTZ?

You would NEVER have known about Jim Weir's registered candidacy
without my mentioning it. :-)

Jim Weir is one of 130 other candidates and he has some "credentials"
in government politics: Eight years with the Nevada County (CA) Board
of Supervisors, according to his public biography.

Does the HOBBY of amateur radio give "credentials" for public office?

I don't think so.


I'm also aware of the provincial bigotry of easterners and enviousness

Bwaaahaha! No further comment req'd!

True enough...YOU have gone into vomitus uninterruptus on provincial
bigotry long enough.

of the most populous state in the USA (about 1 in 8 Americans live
here) and the fact that California's budget ranks 5th through 7th
(depending on standards) of world NATIONS.

It's also been established that around one out of eight in any
generalized population is a kook. Lotta ramifications in that with
respect to La-la Land and YOU, ya PUTZ.

More provincial bigotry vomit.

Check with your MD...you may have a serious medical condition.

Or see a veterinarian...more fitting the beast within you.


Just the same, there is NOTHING about amateur radio in the special
recall election in California. Nothing.

Go bitch about something non-amateur elsewhere...

Since you're not a ham why don't you follow you own "instructions" and
take your bitching about HAM RADIO POLICY somewhere else?

I have. This newsgroup turned into a squatter's rights poopy CHAT
ROOM long ago. No debate or discussion really happens in here.

All that seems to go on in here is a bunch of (mentally) old farts
pooping about the joy and majesty of morsemanship and how they
are all so damn superior to professionals due to long tenure in a hobby.


Hey Putz, you're missing a golden opportunity to exercise your
all-encompassing skills, experience and expertise on EVERYTHING. You
need to climb aboard one of the candidate's campaign organizations and
do your do. I'm thinking you'd be the perfect public relations
spinmeister for the Midget & Bimbo slate. You'd fit.

Done that, too, but much reduced in effort since the Camelot days of
John F. Kennedy. You've never heard of Peter Ueberroth, have you?
I don't think you do. All you know about is "midgets and bimbos."
That fits. :-)

Now go back to your squatting and pooping in this chat room. Rent a
BobCat to shovel up all that you've left in here just from this message.

LHA

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

Dwight, Lennie makes this assertion when it becomes obvious that
he's been bested, especially by someone he considers below his social
station.

Lennie will rant on and on about Japan, his days as an "enginer",
and his stellar career as a "contributing editor" of a magazine that
wwent belly-up.

Read back over this newsgroup. During
the last presidential election, several thousand messages were posted on
that subject alone.

Oh, my, that makes it "right," does it? I don't think so...

And what give YOU the right, Mr. Anderscum, to demand that Dwight
make the content conform to YOUR specifications?

You, you lying sack of buffalo excrement, are the one who is
constantly calling Dave Heil and Larry Roll all sorts of names for
allegedly doing the same thing, yet here YOU are VERY obviously NOT
living up to your own rhetoric...

Again...

Go bitch about something non-amateur elsewhere...

THAT was inspiring, Lennie. Why is it alright for YOU to make
such demands, yet you'll rant on for days if anyone else even hints
that YOU should get lost...NON-licensed pogue that you are...?!?!

Usual lying, deceitful, "Do As I Say Not Do As I Do" rhetoric
from the Putzmaster Himself.

Steve, K4YZ

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

Dwight, Lennie makes this assertion when it becomes obvious that
he's been bested, especially by someone he considers below his social
station.

The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio.

Lennie will rant on and on about Japan, his days as an "enginer",
and his stellar career as a "contributing editor" of a magazine that
wwent belly-up.

Please use a spellchecker when you become so enraged.

I was an Associate Editor at HAM RADIO magazine, so listed on
the "masthead" (listing of staff) every month for two years. HAM
RADIO magazine was an independent technically-oriented monthly
that was published for TWENTY-TWO YEARS. It got started and
survived in competition with QST, CQ, and 73 for over two decades.

There can be no "blame" attributed to the content of HAM RADIO
magazine. It was always superior technically to all the others. The
fault may lie in the dwindling readership of radio amateurs no longer
caring about technical matters or home workshop projects sufficient
to attract advertisers and advertising revenue.

HR, CQ, 73 never had the financial backup of a membership
organization to keep them afloat when advertising revenue was hard
to get. QST survives only because it is basically a membership
magazine with the (~12 million) resources of ARRL behind it. The
three independents succeeded and stayed in business despite not
having such guarantees of demographics to attract advertisers.

I was, and continue to be an electronics design engineer both as
professional (paid) and amateur (unpaid).

The fact of the matter is that I've DONE IT, have the documentation
and enough witnesses to convince any court except the vigilantee
groups who only want to destroy others while spewing forth hate and
vomit on those who've done things.


And what give YOU the right, Mr. Anderscum, to demand that Dwight
make the content conform to YOUR specifications?

You, you lying sack of buffalo excrement, are the one who is
constantly calling Dave Heil and Larry Roll all sorts of names for
allegedly doing the same thing, yet here YOU are VERY obviously NOT
living up to your own rhetoric...

"Buffalo excrement?!?" :-)

As they say in Silicon Valley, let the "chips" fall where they may...

LHA

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

Dwight, Lennie makes this assertion when it becomes obvious that
he's been bested, especially by someone he considers below his social
station.

The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio.

Who cares? YOU are the one who is always suggesting OTHERS are
trying to be "moderators", yet here YOU are demanding that someone
change the subject.

Go figure.

Lennie will rant on and on about Japan, his days as an "enginer",
and his stellar career as a "contributing editor" of a magazine that
wwent belly-up.

Please use a spellchecker when you become so enraged.

And demanding even more.

I was an Associate Editor at HAM RADIO magazine...(SNIP)

Yeahyeahyeah...Same old song.

I was, and continue to be an electronics design engineer both as
professional (paid) and amateur (unpaid).

But still not a licensed Amateur Radio Operator. The rest, since
by YOUR rules is NOT relevent to Amateur Radio, is moot and should be
taken to another forum.

The fact of the matter is that I've DONE IT, have the documentation
and enough witnesses to convince any court except the vigilantee
groups who only want to destroy others while spewing forth hate and
vomit on those who've done things.

For the purposes of THIS forum you have yet to do anything except
rant, antagonize and demean those who HAVE "DONE it"...

No FCC Form 660 = No Amateur Radio.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(Len Over 21) wrote in message
...

This newsgroup is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY.

Dwight, Lennie makes this assertion when it becomes obvious that
he's been bested, especially by someone he considers below his social
station.

The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio.

Who cares? YOU are the one who is always suggesting OTHERS are
trying to be "moderators", yet here YOU are demanding that someone
change the subject.

The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio.


Lennie will rant on and on about Japan, his days as an "enginer",
and his stellar career as a "contributing editor" of a magazine that
wwent belly-up.

Please use a spellchecker when you become so enraged.

And demanding even more.

I was an Associate Editor at HAM RADIO magazine...(SNIP)

Yeahyeahyeah...Same old song.

Like it or not (you definitely hate it), I DID do it and the proof is in
over
two years' worth of monthly editions on the masthead beside the table
of contents.

You have no comparative claim.


I was, and continue to be an electronics design engineer both as
professional (paid) and amateur (unpaid).

But still not a licensed Amateur Radio Operator. The rest, since
by YOUR rules is NOT relevent to Amateur Radio, is moot and should be
taken to another forum.

Not by "my" rules.

The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio.

Why do you keep insisting it is?


For the purposes of THIS forum you have yet to do anything except
rant, antagonize and demean those who HAVE "DONE it"...

Tsk, tsk, tsk...you are still looking in a mirror when you say that.

When there are undocumented unproven claims made, they get
commented on for the undocumented unproven claims they are.
Fish stories. Imaginings. Boastful never-was stories. LIES.


No FCC Form 660 = No Amateur Radio.

This newsgroup is not restricted solely to those who have amateur
radio licenses. It is unmoderated.

If you feel so terribly wronged, you must go to AOL management and
demand that I be barred from accessing an open newsgroup.

Good luck on such demands.

Remember your short 3-day life of LIBEL about another.

LHA

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

Who cares? YOU are the one who is always suggesting OTHERS are
trying to be "moderators", yet here YOU are demanding that someone
change the subject.

The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio.

Again I ask....WHO CARES???

You have absolutely NO RIGHT to suggest that anyone take ANY
discussion to ANY other forum for ANY reason.

YOU have violated that very same "it's not Amateur Radio" clause
so many times it's pathetic...And you're the only one who can't see
how hillarious it is to see YOU suggesting others do so!

Like it or not (you definitely hate it), I DID do it and the proof is in
over
two years' worth of monthly editions on the masthead beside the table
of contents.

You have no comparative claim.

Let's see....How many magazines have gone toes-up while I was
an "associate editor"....

Hmmmmm....NONE!

And I served not one but THREE tours in Japan and surrounding
environs,,,Not one, such as yourself.

Granted, I had to work a bit harder than yourself...Can't imagine
too many times that rear-area message clerks have to venture out of
the air conditioning...

I was, and continue to be an electronics design engineer both as
professional (paid) and amateur (unpaid).

But still not a licensed Amateur Radio Operator. The rest, since
by YOUR rules is NOT relevent to Amateur Radio, is moot and should be
taken to another forum.

Not by "my" rules.

The special recall election in California is NOT about amateur radio.

Why do you keep insisting it is?

I didn't say it was. I say you are an idiot for trying to insist
that others discuss non-Amateur topics elsewhere when YOU so
prolifically QRM this newsgroups with your own non-Amateur bilge all
the time.

For the purposes of THIS forum you have yet to do anything except
rant, antagonize and demean those who HAVE "DONE it"...

Tsk, tsk, tsk...you are still looking in a mirror when you say that.

I'll ask you to prove it, but then will also heap it on the pile
of unanswered LennieRants.

No FCC Form 660 = No Amateur Radio.

This newsgroup is not restricted solely to those who have amateur
radio licenses. It is unmoderated.

If you feel so terribly wronged, you must go to AOL management and
demand that I be barred from accessing an open newsgroup.

It's not about your "access". It's about YOUR penchant for going
off on long non-Amateur related threads then trying to "moderate"
someone else into not doing the same.

You are two faced. Most pathological liars are.

Remember your short 3-day life of LIBEL about another.

It ain't "libel" if it's true.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

"Len Over 21" wrote:

Go bitch about something non-amateur elsewhere...


After all the ranting you did in that message, you have the nerve to tell
others to go elsewhere? Don't hold your breath. Political discussions are
almost a tradition in this newsgroup, and your rants (about the "bigotry of
easterners" and so on) certainly isn't going to change that.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

In article , Dwight Stewart
writes:

After all the ranting you did in that message, you have the nerve to tell
others to go elsewhere?

Absolutely.

The special election for recall in the state of California does NOT involve
amateur radio.

Never did. Won't.

Don't hold your breath. Political discussions are
almost a tradition in this newsgroup, and your rants (about the "bigotry of
easterners" and so on) certainly isn't going to change that.

Okay, you must be establishing that this is NOT an amateur radio
policy discussion venue, right?

YOU want it to be all about politics, anywhere and everywhere?

There are hundreds of Chat Rooms and other forums for discussion of
everything that is NOT about amateur radio. Go there.

LHA