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WA8ULX August 30th 03 01:49 AM

Echolink is not REAL Ham ops...
 
REAL Amateur radio is accomplished by using radios and antennas, not
computers and phone lines.


Interesting, my Link on ECHOLink uses Radio and ants.

Dan/W4NTI August 30th 03 02:01 AM


"Krusty" No wrote in message
...
If you hear things on Echolink you dislike, get over it, ignore it, and

move
on. Echolink is not "real" Amateur radio anyway...it is merely a

glorified,
huge chat room for those with Amateur radio licenses.
REAL Amateur radio is accomplished by using radios and antennas, not
computers and phone lines.



Oh...so Echo Link is like playing a airplane video game and thinking your a
'real' pilot? Makes sense to me.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI August 30th 03 02:02 AM


"WA8ULX" wrote in message
...
REAL Amateur radio is accomplished by using radios and antennas, not
computers and phone lines.


Interesting, my Link on ECHOLink uses Radio and ants.


Then your a 'real ham' till it turns into 'cyber-space'....hmmmmmmmmmm

Dan/W4NTI



Steve Stone August 30th 03 02:07 AM


REAL Amateur radio is accomplished by using radios and antennas, not
computers and phone lines.


And only done with CW and spark gap transmitters.




WA8ULX August 30th 03 03:32 AM

Interesting, my Link on ECHOLink uses Radio and ants.

But YOU are still using a computer and phone lines...


And Im still using Radios and Ants

charlesb August 30th 03 12:11 PM


"Krusty" No wrote in message
...

"WA8ULX" wrote in message
...
REAL Amateur radio is accomplished by using radios and antennas, not
computers and phone lines.


Interesting, my Link on ECHOLink uses Radio and ants.


What are the ants for? Don't you have any bug-spray?

Sorry - Couldn't help myself.

Charles, N5PVL



WA8ULX August 30th 03 02:56 PM

What are the ants for?

To KEEP CBplussers away

Hans K0HB August 30th 03 03:03 PM

"Krusty" "Krusty" wrote

Echolink is not "real" Amateur radio anyway...


Let's see now.....

..... I'm on a wilderness lake in the BWCA with my VX-5R, call the 147.24
machine in Ely, bring up the code for my home 444.125 machine 250 miles
away in Golden Valley, and chat with my unfortunate friends who are on
their way to work in the city.

What's not "real" about that?

73, Hans, K0HB


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Robert Casey August 31st 03 01:33 AM

WA8ULX wrote:

REAL Amateur radio is accomplished by using radios and antennas, not
computers and phone lines.




Interesting, my Link on ECHOLink uses Radio and ants.


Yeah. And I know that if I use Echolink on my PC here in NJ USA to
connect to a machine say in Romania, that my voice is being transmitted
on some 2m or 440 freq over there. I just happen to be using a very long
microphone cable..... I've had QSOs with hams in Japan who were mobile.
Guys suprized to hear an American white trash voice on their local
repeater. :-)


Jim Hampton August 31st 03 02:00 AM

Hmm ... this makes twice now for me. Once VE7DGL had to get hold of me and
used Echo Link - and my HT fired up and I got the needed "heads up". Today,
I needed to get hold of Hatton, NI5Y, and he wasn't on the internet. Well,
I linked to his machine and he answered via his HT. It does work. There
were radios on one end in both instances. :)

Or is DXCC the only thing that counts? I have little use for those folks.
I'm sure some are decent, but the one time I wanted to run a phone patch
from the US Naval Hospital on Guam and the DX boys thought phone patches
shouldn't be allowed on their day ... well ... as I said, I've little use
for 'em.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
ink.net...

"Krusty" No wrote in message
...
If you hear things on Echolink you dislike, get over it, ignore it, and

move
on. Echolink is not "real" Amateur radio anyway...it is merely a

glorified,
huge chat room for those with Amateur radio licenses.
REAL Amateur radio is accomplished by using radios and antennas, not
computers and phone lines.



Oh...so Echo Link is like playing a airplane video game and thinking your

a
'real' pilot? Makes sense to me.

Dan/W4NTI




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Dee D. Flint August 31st 03 02:21 AM


"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Hmm ... this makes twice now for me. Once VE7DGL had to get hold of me

and
used Echo Link - and my HT fired up and I got the needed "heads up".

Today,
I needed to get hold of Hatton, NI5Y, and he wasn't on the internet.

Well,
I linked to his machine and he answered via his HT. It does work. There
were radios on one end in both instances. :)

Or is DXCC the only thing that counts? I have little use for those folks.
I'm sure some are decent, but the one time I wanted to run a phone patch
from the US Naval Hospital on Guam and the DX boys thought phone patches
shouldn't be allowed on their day ... well ... as I said, I've little use
for 'em.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



While I personally am not really interested in Echolink, I think it is an
interesting hybrid. I'm glad that someone worked out the methodology
whether or not I ever make any use of it.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Mike Coslo August 31st 03 02:52 AM

Dee D. Flint wrote:
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

Hmm ... this makes twice now for me. Once VE7DGL had to get hold of me


and

used Echo Link - and my HT fired up and I got the needed "heads up".


Today,

I needed to get hold of Hatton, NI5Y, and he wasn't on the internet.


Well,

I linked to his machine and he answered via his HT. It does work. There
were radios on one end in both instances. :)

Or is DXCC the only thing that counts? I have little use for those folks.
I'm sure some are decent, but the one time I wanted to run a phone patch
from the US Naval Hospital on Guam and the DX boys thought phone patches
shouldn't be allowed on their day ... well ... as I said, I've little use
for 'em.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA




While I personally am not really interested in Echolink, I think it is an
interesting hybrid. I'm glad that someone worked out the methodology
whether or not I ever make any use of it.



The methodology is really pretty simple, an internet version of a phone
patch.

The ho-hum aspect as I see it is that allowing an HT to patch into the
internet is analogous to simply using a telephone. Others may differ,
thinking this is some high tech thing to add to the ham arsenal.

In fact, it seems to me that an application would be to allow cell
phone users to call a number, patch into the net, and then speak to
hams. And since people can bootleg a number so easily, I wouldn't be
surprised if this isn't already happening.

- Mike KB3EIA -




WA8ULX August 31st 03 03:55 AM

Another thing I've had trouble with on Echolink is the voice quality.
Everyone except the local guys sound terrible. Very difficult to understand.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Thats strange, just got off Echolink thru my Link, to a freind in Texas. His
Audio sounded perfect as it always does

WA8ULX August 31st 03 04:31 PM

Yes...but you still used your computer and the land lines.....


And I also used an IC-706 with a Vertical Ant, and a Alinco DJ541 it also has
an Antenna.

WA8ULX August 31st 03 04:31 PM

.easier this way.
Kinda like CB, eh?


No where near to CB

Steve Stone September 1st 03 12:46 PM

We had a power outage recently in the Northeast. The Echolink connection to
a local 2 meter repeater was down because the RoadRunner cable system has no
battery backup in these parts.

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"Vshah101" wrote in message
...
From: "Tin Monkey"

When inclement WX hits and the phone lines are down it will be back to

Ham
Radio the way it always has been. Good old radios and antennas....and for
those with preplannning a Marine battery or two as well.


How often has your fantasy been played out? Can you give examples where

YOU
encountered that?





Steve Robeson, K4CAP September 1st 03 04:09 PM

(Vshah101) wrote in message ...
From: "Tin Monkey"

When inclement WX hits and the phone lines are down it will be back to Ham
Radio the way it always has been. Good old radios and antennas....and for
those with preplannning a Marine battery or two as well.


How often has your fantasy been played out? Can you give examples where YOU
encountered that?


Newy York, September 11th, 2001.

The Midwest floods in the 90's.

Any number of hurricaines in the last 50 years in the Gulf States
and Atlantic Coast.

Need more, Vippy?

Steve, K4YZ

Brian September 4th 03 02:31 AM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Vshah101) wrote in message ...
From: "Tin Monkey"

When inclement WX hits and the phone lines are down it will be back to Ham
Radio the way it always has been. Good old radios and antennas....and for
those with preplannning a Marine battery or two as well.


How often has your fantasy been played out? Can you give examples where YOU
encountered that?


Newy York, September 11th, 2001.

The Midwest floods in the 90's.

Any number of hurricaines in the last 50 years in the Gulf States
and Atlantic Coast.

Need more, Vippy?

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, don't even try to cash in on Sept 11th unless you were there
and provided emergency communications via amateur radio.

Brian

Brian September 4th 03 01:45 PM

"Dick Carroll;" wrote in message ...
Brian wrote:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Vshah101) wrote in message ...
From: "Tin Monkey"

When inclement WX hits and the phone lines are down it will be back to Ham
Radio the way it always has been. Good old radios and antennas....and for
those with preplannning a Marine battery or two as well.

How often has your fantasy been played out? Can you give examples where YOU
encountered that?

Newy York, September 11th, 2001.

The Midwest floods in the 90's.

Any number of hurricaines in the last 50 years in the Gulf States
and Atlantic Coast.

Need more, Vippy?

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, don't even try to cash in on Sept 11th unless you were there
and provided emergency communications via amateur radio.

Brian


"Cash in"????? Hey Steve, Brain thinks there's money in ham radio!
Should be prevail on someone to donate him a clue, maybe suggest he read
Part 97 with an eye to actually doing more than mouthing the words?


Brian thinks DICK is a dumbass.

Steve is guilty of doing what he has accused others of doing, riding
the coattails of those who have fallen before him for prestige and
fame.

Brian September 4th 03 11:32 PM

"Dick Carroll;" wrote in message ...
Brian wrote:

"Dick Carroll;" wrote in message ...
Brian wrote:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Vshah101) wrote in message ...
From: "Tin Monkey"

When inclement WX hits and the phone lines are down it will be back to Ham
Radio the way it always has been. Good old radios and antennas....and for
those with preplannning a Marine battery or two as well.



See below:


How often has your fantasy been played out? Can you give examples where YOU
encountered that?



See above:



Newy York, September 11th, 2001.

The Midwest floods in the 90's.

Any number of hurricaines in the last 50 years in the Gulf States
and Atlantic Coast.

Need more, Vippy?

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, don't even try to cash in on Sept 11th unless you were there
and provided emergency communications via amateur radio.

Brian

"Cash in"????? Hey Steve, Brain thinks there's money in ham radio!
Should be prevail on someone to donate him a clue, maybe suggest he read
Part 97 with an eye to actually doing more than mouthing the words?


Brian thinks DICK is a dumbass.


OIn the other hand, Dick and the rest of the world KNOWS that Brian is.

Steve is guilty of doing what he has accused others of doing, riding
the coattails of those who have fallen before him for prestige and
fame.


Where did he say *he* was involved in any of those actions??? HE DIDN'T.
HAM RADIO was, you idiotic twerp.


DICK cranium, Vipul asked Steve if he had been personally involved in
emergency comms, and Steve replied with a list of disasters, including
the terrorist attacks on September 11th.

You stand corrected.


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