"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
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"Larry Roll K3LT" wrote:

(snip) However, as previously stated, you are not qualified
to make any judgment against the code testing requirement,
since you have not gained practical operational experience
in this mode. (snip)


Larry, one does not need to survive a house fire to make judgements
about
fire safety. Or be attacked by a foreign government to make a judgement
about certain defense planning. Or live under a dictator to make
judgements
about laws affecting our freedoms. Or experience a business failure to
make
wise business judgements. Or experience anything else firsthand to make
value judgements about it.


One does have to eat a pizza to evaluate its taste and whether they will
like it or not. I love pizza but hate tomatoes, cheese, and garlic. Yet
combine them into a pizza and the result is entirely different. No one can
tell how a cake will taste simply from reading the ingredients on a box.
You can evaluate its nutritional content but not its taste. So while there
are some things that do not need to be experienced to evaluate them, there
are other things that do.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

One does have to eat a pizza to evaluate its taste and whether they will
like it or not.

snip erroneous diatribe

incorrect anology... the correct one would be to say "you don't have to eat
a pizza to know WHAT it is, and WHAT it's made of".

it's so easy.

Clint
KB5ZHT

"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message
...


One does have to eat a pizza to evaluate its taste and whether they will
like it or not.

snip erroneous diatribe

incorrect anology... the correct one would be to say "you don't have to
eat
a pizza to know WHAT it is, and WHAT it's made of".

it's so easy.

Clint
KB5ZHT

No my analogy is quite correct. To determine the worth of pizza, you must
eat to see if it is a food worth your bother. Knowing the ingredients will
not tell you that. Watching other people eat one will not tell you that.
Same with Morse code. Reading about past and present usage, looking at the
table of dots and dashes, and watching other people operate, etc will not
tell you whether you like it. It will only tell you what it is and what it
is made of. Until you experience using the code for yourself (i.e. eating
the pizza for yourself), it is impossible to tell whether you will like it.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

No my analogy is quite correct. To determine the worth of pizza, you
must
eat to see if it is a food worth your bother. Knowing the ingredients
will
not tell you that.

here's a more accurate anology....

"You can't possibly know anything about pizza, and i'm telling you that
it's an important staple to you diet. Your opinion means nothing; I
am now pointing the gun of licenseing system at your head and
ORDERING you to take a bite of the pizza, I am not worried
one bit about what the facts are or what the market wants... I am
going to see to it that everybody is force fed pizza whether they
like it or not."

Clint
KB5ZHT

"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message
...

No my analogy is quite correct. To determine the worth of pizza, you
must
eat to see if it is a food worth your bother. Knowing the ingredients
will
not tell you that.

here's a more accurate anology....

"You can't possibly know anything about pizza, and i'm telling you that
it's an important staple to you diet. Your opinion means nothing; I
am now pointing the gun of licenseing system at your head and
ORDERING you to take a bite of the pizza, I am not worried
one bit about what the facts are or what the market wants... I am
going to see to it that everybody is force fed pizza whether they
like it or not."


I and other parents that I know have always required our children to eat
foods that are good for them whether they liked them or not. My children
have always been required to eat what was served whether they liked it or
not. Children were not allowed to dictate the menu.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee D. Flint wrote:
"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message
...

No my analogy is quite correct. To determine the worth of pizza, you

must

eat to see if it is a food worth your bother. Knowing the ingredients

will

not tell you that.

here's a more accurate anology....

"You can't possibly know anything about pizza, and i'm telling you that
it's an important staple to you diet. Your opinion means nothing; I
am now pointing the gun of licenseing system at your head and
ORDERING you to take a bite of the pizza, I am not worried
one bit about what the facts are or what the market wants... I am
going to see to it that everybody is force fed pizza whether they
like it or not."



I and other parents that I know have always required our children to eat
foods that are good for them whether they liked them or not. My children
have always been required to eat what was served whether they liked it or
not. Children were not allowed to dictate the menu.

Oh how cruel! Dee, you are a meanie. You are stunting your kids
emotional growth and forcing them to do something they don't want to. NO
one should be forced to do something they don't want to be it Morse Code
or eating foods that are good for them. - end of being facetious.

How about NBI - NO Broccoli International?

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
Dee D. Flint wrote:
"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message
...

No my analogy is quite correct. To determine the worth of pizza, you

must

eat to see if it is a food worth your bother. Knowing the ingredients

will

not tell you that.

here's a more accurate anology....

"You can't possibly know anything about pizza, and i'm telling you that
it's an important staple to you diet. Your opinion means nothing; I
am now pointing the gun of licenseing system at your head and
ORDERING you to take a bite of the pizza, I am not worried
one bit about what the facts are or what the market wants... I am
going to see to it that everybody is force fed pizza whether they
like it or not."



I and other parents that I know have always required our children to eat
foods that are good for them whether they liked them or not. My
children
have always been required to eat what was served whether they liked it
or
not. Children were not allowed to dictate the menu.

Oh how cruel! Dee, you are a meanie. You are stunting your kids
emotional growth and forcing them to do something they don't want to. NO
one should be forced to do something they don't want to be it Morse Code
or eating foods that are good for them. - end of being facetious.

How about NBI - NO Broccoli International?

- Mike KB3EIA -


I LIKE broccoli. Let's make it NO Peas International.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

I and other parents that I know have always required our children to eat
foods that are good for them whether they liked them or not.

and that's fine for children.

Funny, I thought we were talking about ADULT hams.

Clint
KB5ZHT

"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message
...


I and other parents that I know have always required our children to eat
foods that are good for them whether they liked them or not.

and that's fine for children.

Funny, I thought we were talking about ADULT hams.

Clint
KB5ZHT



The same applies to students of all ages. When an adult goes to college,
they can select which area that they are going to get a degree in. Once
they make the selection, they have no choice in the basic classes only in
the electives that follow the basic classes. For example, all the
engineering curricula at the university I attended required all engineering
students to take a basic electrical engineering class. If I had not taken
it, I would have been denied my degree. Well in my engineering career, I
have yet to use that material since I am not an electrical engineer.

So a person can choose to be a ham (i.e. choose to be a mechanical
engineer). They cannot choose which material is required to be a ham (or
mechanical engineer). The curriculum has to be set by an experienced
person.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

In article , "Dee D. Flint"
writes:

I and other parents that I know have always required our children to eat
foods that are good for them whether they liked them or not. My children
have always been required to eat what was served whether they liked it or
not. Children were not allowed to dictate the menu.

...and so you act like you are the "parent" in here telling us what we
are supposed to like?

LHA