In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

In article ,
(N2EY) writes:

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1906 - (December 24 & 31) Christmas Eve broadcast of both recorded and
live music and voice from Massachusetts. Signals heard all over North
Atlantic and coastal areas. Inland as far as New York State. Broadcast
*repeated* New Year's Eve.

Quit misdirecting with olde tyme raddio lore.

Quit trying to moderate an unmoderated newsgroup.

Come up with the way anyone can make a spark transmitter
amplitude modulated for intelligible voice or music communication...
using a microphone in the antenna circuit of a 1 KW transmitter.

Why? That's not what Fessenden did.

Come up with the way a spark transmitter suddenly turns into
an Alexanderson Alternator whenever it is brought up in an amateur
radio newsgroup.

That's your game, Len.

(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

In article ,
(N2EY) writes:

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1906 - (December 24 & 31) Christmas Eve broadcast of both recorded and
live music and voice from Massachusetts. Signals heard all over North
Atlantic and coastal areas. Inland as far as New York State. Broadcast
*repeated* New Year's Eve.

Quit misdirecting with olde tyme raddio lore.

Quit trying to moderate an unmoderated newsgroup.

That's your game, Rev. Jim.

Come up with the way anyone can make a spark transmitter
amplitude modulated for intelligible voice or music communication...
using a microphone in the antenna circuit of a 1 KW transmitter.

Why? That's not what Fessenden did.

So what did Fessenden do?

Come up with the way a spark transmitter suddenly turns into
an Alexanderson Alternator whenever it is brought up in an amateur
radio newsgroup.

That's your game, Len.

What's your game, Jim?

(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

Come up with the way a spark transmitter suddenly turns into
an Alexanderson Alternator whenever it is brought up in an amateur
radio newsgroup.

That's your game, Len.

What's your game, Jim?

What's your interest in knowing, Brain? Even if he tells you,
it's unlikely you'd understand.

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Brian) wrote in message . com...
(N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

Come up with the way a spark transmitter suddenly turns into
an Alexanderson Alternator whenever it is brought up in an amateur
radio newsgroup.

That's your game, Len.

What's your game, Jim?

What's your interest in knowing, Brain? Even if he tells you,
it's unlikely you'd understand.

Steve, K4YZ

I think I already know and understand Jim's game. He built an
Elecraft kit, then professes to have engineered and built his own
amateur station.

73, Brian

In article ,
(Brian) writes:

He built an
Elecraft kit, then professes to have engineered and built his own
amateur station.

Wrong.

I've done both. In fact, I designed and built several stations before ever
hearing of Elecraft.

Let's see...

I've built-from-scratch (no kits, no carbon copies of other homebrew) in my
home workshops, at least:

5 receivers
5 transmitters
3 transceivers
4 transmatches
12 power supplies
4 TR systems
5 pieces of test equipment
various shack furniture, antennas, power cables, control systems, etc.

The above list does not include:

- surplus units converted/restored
- manufactured equipment restored/repaired/modified
- kits built or rebuilt

I've worked several of the regulars here on rrap using my homebrew rigs.

I can often be found on or around 7040.

Pictures and descriptions of a receiver I built for about $10 back in the early
1970s are on the HBR website. It's only one in a long line.

N2EY wrote:


I've built-from-scratch (no kits, no carbon copies of other homebrew) in my
home workshops, at least:

5 receivers
5 transmitters
3 transceivers
4 transmatches
12 power supplies
4 TR systems
5 pieces of test equipment
various shack furniture, antennas, power cables, control systems, etc.

The above list does not include:

- surplus units converted/restored
- manufactured equipment restored/repaired/modified
- kits built or rebuilt

I've worked several of the regulars here on rrap using my homebrew rigs.

I can often be found on or around 7040.

This is incredibly bizzare! Having to defend one's hombrewing as
defined by what one has designed and built.

Its all good, whether building an Elecraft kit or designing your own
radio; modding a surplus unit or etching your own circuit boards.

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

N2EY wrote:


I've built-from-scratch (no kits, no carbon copies of other homebrew) in my
home workshops, at least:

5 receivers
5 transmitters

Actually, 6 transmitters. All but the first two include VFOs.

3 transceivers
4 transmatches
12 power supplies
4 TR systems
5 pieces of test equipment
various shack furniture, antennas, power cables, control systems, etc.

The above list does not include:

- surplus units converted/restored
- manufactured equipment restored/repaired/modified
- kits built or rebuilt

I've worked several of the regulars here on rrap using my homebrew rigs.

I can often be found on or around 7040.

This is incredibly bizzare!

Most of what Brian Burke writes here is bizarre. In this case, though, he's
simply wrong about my homebrewing.

Having to defend one's hombrewing as
defined by what one has designed and built.

My homebrewing speaks for itself, as anyone who has worked me on-the-air knows.
I currently have two HF transceivers fully operational at the present time:
Elecraft K2 #2084 and the Southgate Type 7. I also have some of my older
homebrew projects in storage.

The Type 7 is almost ten years old now, while the K2 was assembled in the
spring of 2001.

I define "homebrew" as "built from scratch". That includes everything from
carbon-copy stuff like the G2DAF sets to one-of-a-kind
designed-from-a-blank-sheet-of-paper projects. "Homebrew" does not include kit
assembly, surplus conversion (unless it's so extensive that it's really a new
project, as in "Cheap and Easy SSB"), or restoration/repair/modification.

Its all good, whether building an Elecraft kit or designing your own
radio; modding a surplus unit or etching your own circuit boards.

I agree 100%! It's ALL good - but it's not all homebrew.

Heck, some restorations require more skill, knowledge and effort than an
equivalent homebrew because the restorer wants to match the original exactly,
where the homebrew *is* the original.

My particular specialty in homebrew is to reuse "found objects" rather than buy
new parts - mostly to save money, but also because some parts are almost
impossible to find new. There's also the consideration of not wasting usable
parts.

How can we claim that amateur radio is a "fundamentally technical radio
service" if we all use only manufactured radios?

73 de Jim, N2EY