"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message
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"garigue" wrote in message
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Here we go again with this standard transmission crap ...this time it
has
degenerated to starters ....

and your point being? that just means there are MANY examples of why
CW testing is outdated.

Huh ???? No Clint that is just a repeat of the same old crap I have been
seeing for years on this group in a vain attept to prove CW is in its death
throws.

Clint's logic ... no cars today have crank starters ... therefore CW is
in
that same category ...but wait ..why are there so many CW ham signals on
the
air ... ????

no problem with use of morse code. It's code TESTING that's outdated
and is going to be removed.


Well then say that testing with out reference to the act of CW operation
which I see as the target of the no-code folks ....as said before NCI
.....not NCTI

Clint am I a "crybaby" because I see a useful skill i.e. the 2nd most
used
amateur mode badmouthed in the most illogical , immature and counter
productive manner.

2nd most used? that's debatable.. in fact, i'd be willing to bet it's far
from
the most used.

What did I say ....2nd most used ...don't follow your logic there Clint



AND, i'll play my own devil's advocate; it's widely agreed,
with little dissention, that code use is on the decline... therefore, even
IF it's
as you assert (again, playing my own devil's advocate), this couldn't
possibly
be true indefinitely as it's use shrinks and deminishes.

Can't figure out that statement Clint ....I would agree that the mode is not
used as much as it was in the past but I would wonder with the internet if
the service as a whole was taking a hit. I am not bemoaning that happening
as life is life and change is change. There are a lot of wholesome hobbies
or endeavors out there Clint but I hope the service remains viable for the
next generation to enjoy. Perhaps that will come with testing of CW being
eliminated ....I hope that a positive impact will happen ..but again I
wouldn't bet the kid's college fund on it.

God Bless 73 Tom Popovic KI3R Belle Vernon Pa

"garigue" wrote in message
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"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message
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"garigue" wrote in message
news:59Gkb.825619$Ho3.226493@sccrnsc03...

Here we go again with this standard transmission crap ...this time it
has
degenerated to starters ....

and your point being? that just means there are MANY examples of why
CW testing is outdated.

Huh ???? No Clint that is just a repeat of the same old crap I have
been
seeing for years on this group in a vain attept to prove CW is in its
death
throws.

Clint's logic ... no cars today have crank starters ... therefore CW
is
in
that same category ...but wait ..why are there so many CW ham signals
on
the
air ... ????

no problem with use of morse code. It's code TESTING that's outdated
and is going to be removed.


Well then say that testing with out reference to the act of CW operation
which I see as the target of the no-code folks ....as said before NCI
....not NCTI

Clint am I a "crybaby" because I see a useful skill i.e. the 2nd most
used
amateur mode badmouthed in the most illogical , immature and counter
productive manner.

2nd most used? that's debatable.. in fact, i'd be willing to bet it's
far
from
the most used.

What did I say ....2nd most used ...don't follow your logic there Clint



AND, i'll play my own devil's advocate; it's widely agreed,
with little dissention, that code use is on the decline... therefore,
even
IF it's
as you assert (again, playing my own devil's advocate), this couldn't
possibly
be true indefinitely as it's use shrinks and deminishes.


It is NOT widely agreed that code use is on the decline. I am happy to
report that articles earlier this on contest participation on the ARRL site
show that there has a been a 20% rise in participation in the CW contests
from the previous year while participation in voice contests stayed flat
(i.e. no growth).

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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"garigue" wrote in message
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"Clint" rattlehead at computron dot net wrote in message
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"garigue" wrote in message
news:59Gkb.825619$Ho3.226493@sccrnsc03...

Here we go again with this standard transmission crap ...this time
it
has
degenerated to starters ....

and your point being? that just means there are MANY examples of why
CW testing is outdated.

Huh ???? No Clint that is just a repeat of the same old crap I have
been
seeing for years on this group in a vain attept to prove CW is in its
death
throws.

Clint's logic ... no cars today have crank starters ... therefore CW
is
in
that same category ...but wait ..why are there so many CW ham
signals
on
the
air ... ????

no problem with use of morse code. It's code TESTING that's outdated
and is going to be removed.


Well then say that testing with out reference to the act of CW operation
which I see as the target of the no-code folks ....as said before NCI
....not NCTI

Clint am I a "crybaby" because I see a useful skill i.e. the 2nd
most
used
amateur mode badmouthed in the most illogical , immature and counter
productive manner.

2nd most used? that's debatable.. in fact, i'd be willing to bet it's
far
from
the most used.

What did I say ....2nd most used ...don't follow your logic there Clint



AND, i'll play my own devil's advocate; it's widely agreed,
with little dissention, that code use is on the decline... therefore,
even
IF it's
as you assert (again, playing my own devil's advocate), this couldn't
possibly
be true indefinitely as it's use shrinks and deminishes.


It is NOT widely agreed that code use is on the decline. I am happy to
report that articles earlier this on contest participation on the ARRL
site
show that there has a been a 20% rise in participation in the CW contests
from the previous year while participation in voice contests stayed flat
(i.e. no growth).

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Shhhhhhh !! Don't tell the facts, it will confuse the NCI crowd.

Dan/W4NTI