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October 21st 03, 10:58 PM
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , Good thing you morsemen have a cozy lil chat room to talk all about AMATEUR RADIO SUBJECTS, isn't it? Most of what YOU want to talk about isn't related to Amateur Radio either, [expletive deleted] so why hassle Jim? Simple, Steve - to try to get a rise out of me. Or you. So, Capt. Jimmie, what outfit were you assigned to? Why do you insist on trying to besmirch others for thier military (or NON-military) service, Lennie? Is it illegal for an American to NOT serve in the Armed Forces? Can you PROVE that Jim Miccolis or ANY other person in this forum shirked an OBLIGATION under the Selective Service Act...?!?! I still have my original 1972 issue draft card. We're talking about REAL facts, Lennie...The truth....Something you can PROVE...?!?! As Kim would say: Oh, puh-leeeease! You don't really expect such from Len, do you? Sems to me there's been no draft in this country since the mid 70's, and that military service is non-compulsory. YOU keep trying to insinuate that Jim or Brian Kelly's careers somehow hinge on what they did or didn't do in the Armed Forces, but you have yet to explain why. It's called "ad hominem", Steve. YOU have zero-point-zero experience in Amateur Radio, yet you seem to be perfectly OK with commenting at length on Amateur Radio matters. There's this pot and this kettle.... You have zero-point-zero days experience as an aviator, but you've tried to pull the wool over our eyes on matters pertaining to aviation, too. Read Bill Kershner's Student Manual a few times I wager, but you've never once been pilot-in-command of an aircraft, yet you went off on a tirade about NAVAID systems and aerial navigation...THAT was a hoot...! You also have zero-point-zero experience in matters such as emergency communications, disaster relief, etc, yet you always feel compelled to comment on thos matters too. (OK, I'll give you zero-point-five experience for the ONE time you owned up to helping at a disaster...filling sand bags...) Are we to assume that YOU are of the opinion that it's OK for YOU to express opinions on matters for which you have no practical experience, but it's NOT OK for others to do the same...?!?! You just figuring that out, Steve? ;-) We'll wait right here for your answer. Don't hold yer breath waiting. btw, didja take a listen to the spark rigs - particularly the voice modulated spark? Here's how Fessenden did it, in a nutshell: The buzz that characterizes ordinary spark signals is due to the relatively low AC used. Fessenden figured that if he used AC above the audio range, the spark rate would be above the audio rate, and intelligible audio would result. He was right, of course. And by using headphones with poor response above a few kHz, much of the noise would be filtered out. Of course when he got his paws on a suitable Alexanderson alternator, the spark idea was abandoned. His alternator would go as high as 100 kHz and was rated at 1 kW. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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October 22nd 03, 09:23 PM
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(N2EY) writes: (Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message .com... (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , Good thing you morsemen have a cozy lil chat room to talk all about AMATEUR RADIO SUBJECTS, isn't it? Most of what YOU want to talk about isn't related to Amateur Radio either, [expletive deleted] so why hassle Jim? Simple, Steve - to try to get a rise out of me. Or you. Nope. Just to show how BIASED you guys are, doing so much SELECTIVE EDITING to attempt proving some point, and then making all those charges about "poor research" about the PAST. So, Capt. Jimmie, what outfit were you assigned to? Why do you insist on trying to besmirch others for thier military (or NON-military) service, Lennie? Is it illegal for an American to NOT serve in the Armed Forces? Can you PROVE that Jim Miccolis or ANY other person in this forum shirked an OBLIGATION under the Selective Service Act...?!?! I still have my original 1972 issue draft card. Whoopee...at least Capt. Jimmie obeyed a law and registered with his local board THIRTY-ONE YEARS AGO. That, of course, entitles Capt. Jimmie to carte blanche "learned comment" about World War Two sociopolitics in an amateur radio newsgroup. Selective Service (the "draft") ended in 1975. 28 years ago. We're talking about REAL facts, Lennie...The truth....Something you can PROVE...?!?! As Kim would say: Oh, puh-leeeease! You don't really expect such from Len, do you? Tsk, tsk, tsk...getting a bit heated about upset in the ranks, Capt. Jimmie? Okay, now PROVE that Reginald Fessenden used a SPARK transmitter that was voice modulated on that famous broadcast on Christmas Eve, 1906. Argue against a McGraw-Hill publication of 1980 or against REAL historian Thomas H. White on his website. Sems to me there's been no draft in this country since the mid 70's, and that military service is non-compulsory. YOU keep trying to insinuate that Jim or Brian Kelly's careers somehow hinge on what they did or didn't do in the Armed Forces, but you have yet to explain why. It's called "ad hominem", Steve. Noooo...not ad hominem or even hominem grits. Some civilan mick claiming he shot bears for "naval intelligence" on board a USN aircraft carrier is stretching credulity. A civilian puke who never served in an military or civilian communications outfit is going to try to tell one who DID that he is "all wrong" about what was done? Nice try at the Big Lie technique. You failed. Your misdirection technique doesn't work well at all. YOU have zero-point-zero experience in Amateur Radio, yet you seem to be perfectly OK with commenting at length on Amateur Radio matters. There's this pot and this kettle.... The FCC doesn't require any commissioners or staff to hold amateur radio licenses in order to REGULATE amateur radio in the US. So, Capt. Jimmie and the Avenging Angel of the United States Morse Codists (USMC) are going to charge the FCC with "unlawful activity?" You have zero-point-zero days experience as an aviator, but you've tried to pull the wool over our eyes on matters pertaining to aviation, too. Read Bill Kershner's Student Manual a few times I wager, but you've never once been pilot-in-command of an aircraft, yet you went off on a tirade about NAVAID systems and aerial navigation...THAT was a hoot...! Tsk, tsk, tsk, Capt. Jimmie, you should have pulled rank on the USMC no-com for that. No one, repeat no one "must" be a pilot in order to design, develop, work on, service, maintain aircraft radionavigation aids. Done that. Same thing for "aerial navagation" which should be aircraft navigation...aerials remain attached to whatever radio they are connected to...:-) You also have zero-point-zero experience in matters such as emergency communications, disaster relief, etc, yet you always feel compelled to comment on thos matters too. (OK, I'll give you zero-point-five experience for the ONE time you owned up to helping at a disaster...filling sand bags...) Poor USMC psychotic had another delusion. I've never "filled sand bags." That must have been a duty the USMC no-com did (no doubt taxing his intellectual capability to the limit). What DIRECT ACTIONS have the illustrious military expert Capt. Jimmie or the USMC no-com done? Illustrate by verifiable references. Are we to assume that YOU are of the opinion that it's OK for YOU to express opinions on matters for which you have no practical experience, but it's NOT OK for others to do the same...?!?! You just figuring that out, Steve? ;-) Stebe still doesn't understand the U. S. Constitution or its First Amendment. It would seem that Capt. Jimmie, military and socio- political guru, doesn't understand it either. We'll wait right here for your answer. Don't hold yer breath waiting. btw, didja take a listen to the spark rigs - particularly the voice modulated spark? Here's how Fessenden did it, in a nutshell: The buzz that characterizes ordinary spark signals is due to the relatively low AC used. Fessenden figured that if he used AC above the audio range, the spark rate would be above the audio rate, and intelligible audio would result. He was right, of course. Fantastic intellect...should have become an Amateur Extra. Fessenden didn't use any SPARK transmitter for that famous 1906 Christmas Eve broadcast. It was a rotary alternator of about 750 Watts output on about 70 KHz. You can see the microphone used on Thomas H. White's US radio history pages. Direct series connection with the antenna lead. And by using headphones with poor response above a few kHz, much of the noise would be filtered out. Brilliant intellect, Capt. Jimmie. Finally got your Masters' dust shaken off it, did you? Of course when he got his paws on a suitable Alexanderson alternator, the spark idea was abandoned. His alternator would go as high as 100 kHz and was rated at 1 kW. Fessenden used 750 W rotary alternator at about 70 KHz for that 1906 Christmas Eve broadcast. Try to get close to real electrical values as recorded by history. Now, I might be wrong, but this forum is about AMATEUR RADIO POLICY of today, not long, long ago before you or the USMC no-com existed. Neither is it about WW2 or WW1 nor of ancient history in radio when the label "ham" was a pejorative. Of course, this could be just another United States Morse Codist's CHAT ROOM where all morsemen gather to give each other high- fives about how they are all leaders, movers, shakers in radio for their mighty macho morsemanship. Feel free to talk anyone down who doesn't agree with the tenets and catechisms of morse. That should be your sworn duty. beep, beep LHA |
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