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On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:27:51 -0600, Neil Down
wrote:

Steveo wrote in news:20031104182715.587
:

In the mean time, he flames rec.radio.cb. Calls people all kinds
of filthy names, with mostly gay references. (wonder why the closet
walkie talkie operator hasn't come out in the open yet).

Now some jackass who claims to be an extra is defending him?

BAH!

Talk about a jackass you defend a blatant transexual, a liar, and several
illegal federal criminals. Your a real saint huh?

Now when has Steve defended you and Doug?

JJ wrote:
Steveo wrote:

Neil Down wrote:

I DON'T CALL dOUG ANYTHING

He must be your friend, you respond to anything about him.

QUIT SLOBBERING ON THE KEYBOARD.

Quit harassing CBer's.

That's about all they are good for.

That, and giving ham radio a bad example. Two bad apples
don't spoil the whole bunch. ;)

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Neil Down wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20031104182715.587
:

In the mean time, he flames rec.radio.cb. Calls people all kinds
of filthy names, with mostly gay references. (wonder why the closet
walkie talkie operator hasn't come out in the open yet).

Now some jackass who claims to be an extra is defending him?

BAH!

Talk about a jackass you defend a blatant transexual, a liar, and several
illegal federal criminals. Your a real saint huh?

WHO are these people? ($ to Jerry)

LOL!!!!!

He's a troll, nothing more, a whole
lot less.

Landshark

--
You can stand tall without standing on someone. You can be a victor without having victims.

jim wrote in message
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Brenda Ann wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...

actually a good point. if i were to use the freq's the u.s. gov said i
can
then what is the problem with slipping +/- 5kc's between 'channels'? is
that freebanding?

The frequencies that the US govt. says you can are those specific
frequencies that constitute the 40 standard CB channels. The distance
away
from the center of any channel is tightly regulated, and you can't be
more
than 0.005% away from that center (~1.3 KHz), which is actually pretty
broad
when compared to say, broadcast AM, which is only allowed a 20 Hz
leeway).

that is what the u.s. gov proclaims. my point is they have no say so
outside territorial waters. whether or not the gov abides by itu
standards on this matter is open.

The fact is the US Govt HAS signed on with ITU and honors *most* treaties.

better yet, who the hell is the u.s. gov to tell me what is legal or
not?

If you are a US citizen, they are granted that right by the
constitution,
and by treaty.

please point out the constitutional section you mentioned.

Title 47, US Code and The Communications Act of 1934 voted upon by
Congress.

if i were to float out to bermuda and xmit would i be freebanding

there?

Sure, but I doubt the British authorities would appreciate that!

You would then be under the jurisdiction of whatever radio authority
covers
Bermuda. Aren't they a British colony? The UK Radio Authority is much
more
harsh than the FCC.

Agreed.
right, the RA is tough. easier to monitor 65+/- million than appr 300
million

do our friends to the north and south really care what the fcc

says what americans can/cannot do? not likely....

WRT to "freebanding" within the US and its territories, all I can say is to
go
ahead and do it. If you get popped, you have only yourself to blame.

J

Actually, yes. The treaties for use of various frequencies are there to
protect all the various countries that are signatories to them. The
Canadians are pretty hard on pirates (though they also have some rules
in
place to give greater latitude on some bands than we do). I don't know
what
communications law is like in Mexico, but I imagine that they deal with
people operating out of band/off channel too.

treaties not withstanding have you heard 10 & 11 meters recently? the
developing world is looking for the cheapest way to communicate with
their expatriates (sp?) in the u.s. one way to do it is using a setup
that after an initial outlay for equipment is basically free. their
problem is propagation not the gov.

(wonder why the closet
walkie talkie operator hasn't come out in the open yet).

Because if you hide in the closet when you jam the
repeater with your HT, no one can find you!!!

Radioman wrote:
(wonder why the closet
walkie talkie operator hasn't come out in the open yet).

Because if you hide in the closet when you jam the
repeater with your HT, no one can find you!!!

Your dogie might..

"Landshark" wrote in message
m...

Landshark: Are you the one who was knocking at our door last night, saying
"Candygram" in a muffled voice when we asked who it was?

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

Please try to keep it in your pants, Rev Brabham. Beat your wife
lately?

In article , charlesb says...

"Landshark" wrote in message
om...

Landshark: Are you the one who was knocking at our door last night, saying
"Candygram" in a muffled voice when we asked who it was?

Charles Brabham, N5PVL

In article , Neil Down says...

jim wrote in :

Steveo wrote:
Neil Down wrote:

Has doug been fined? Ill answer for you a resounding
NO!

So by your reasoning, unless you're fined you're innocent.

That's odd coming from the re.radio.cb legal police. What about
all the keyclown name calling? No fine means innocent in your book$.

So until you produce evidence of fines, that the regular posters in
rec.radio.cb , have been charged with, please STFU.

makes sense...

to an ignoramous

True. I come from a long line of ignoramous's and it makes perfect sense to me.

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message
. ..

jim wrote in message
...

Brenda Ann wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...

actually a good point. if i were to use the freq's the u.s. gov said i
can
then what is the problem with slipping +/- 5kc's between 'channels'?
is
that freebanding?

The frequencies that the US govt. says you can are those specific
frequencies that constitute the 40 standard CB channels. The distance
away
from the center of any channel is tightly regulated, and you can't be
more
than 0.005% away from that center (~1.3 KHz), which is actually pretty
broad
when compared to say, broadcast AM, which is only allowed a 20 Hz
leeway).

that is what the u.s. gov proclaims. my point is they have no say so
outside territorial waters. whether or not the gov abides by itu
standards on this matter is open.

The fact is the US Govt HAS signed on with ITU and honors *most* treaties.

better yet, who the hell is the u.s. gov to tell me what is legal or
not?

If you are a US citizen, they are granted that right by the
constitution,
and by treaty.

please point out the constitutional section you mentioned.

Title 47, US Code and The Communications Act of 1934 voted upon by
Congress.

There is a major difference between Federal laws and the Constitution. The
references that you cite are NOT sections of the Constitution. Please
retake your civics and political science classes.

Brenda Ann wrote in message ...

The UK Radio Authority is much more
harsh than the FCC.

Sorry, but I have to disagree.

Even at the height of CB, when 100s of thousands of people were running
illegal CB in one way or another, the yearly "bust" figures were just into
double digits - it has remained in the 20s and 30s.

Most illegal CBers get ignored, some get a "Please don't do that" verbal
warning, some may get a written warning,.
So, what do the very few big busts get... £1000s in fines? Prison?
No... a couple of hundred pound fine if any - and the illegal equipment
snatched.

If the RA were "harsh", they would consider illegal CBers as "Pirates"...
and give them the very large Pirate fine. Those using Amateur illegally
would be hunted down like dogs and given the punisment available under UK
law - prison.

When nearly everyone was using illegal antennas, they changed the antenna
rules to make those antennas legal.
When CBers were illegally using the American frequencies, they legalised the
band for CB use.
When they wanted American CBs out of the hands of CBers, they made it legal
for Amateurs to convert the sets to 10 Metre - so they would buy them from
CBers, make them legal, and save the RA the bother of chasing people.

If they were harsh, they would have put "No DX" and "no talking to
foreigners" rules in place. They would ban the import and sales of the
illegal CBs marked as "Amateur". They would ban the ownership or use of
Amplifiers that work on CB.
America does all those - The UK does none of them.
I would say that our CB service has very few rules, and enforcement only as
a last resort.

A few years back, a group of people set themselves up as self-appointed CB
police. They went around looking for CB antennas and CBers - sending a list
to the RA, for them to catch the licence dodgers.
You would think that the "bust" figure would have shot through the roof -
but the RA couln't be arsed to do the chasing.
They now plan to remove the licence next year - so reducing the amount of
illegal CBers even further.

Regards,

Peter.

Steveo wrote:
So until you produce evidence of fines, that the regular posters in
rec.radio.cb have been charged with, please STFU.

Still waiting. Care to see n8wwm's rain report again?