"Dee D. Flint" wrote in
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"Alun" wrote in message
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However, my point is just that polling only licenced hams is just not
appropriate, as hams are not the only interested parties.


How would you then define the group to be polled? Even polling just
the licensed hams would be prohibitive in terms of postage as mentioned
in other posts.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



If I thought it should be decided by a poll, and I'm by no means sure of
that, then it should be done on-line. Just have a web page where you click
your chosen response. Chicago voters might be a problem, though.

Alun wrote:


If I thought it should be decided by a poll, and I'm by no means sure of
that, then it should be done on-line. Just have a web page where you click
your chosen response. Chicago voters might be a problem, though.

Do you remember Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf?

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote in
t:

Alun wrote:


If I thought it should be decided by a poll, and I'm by no means sure
of that, then it should be done on-line. Just have a web page where
you click your chosen response. Chicago voters might be a problem,
though.

Do you remember Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf?

- Mike KB3EIA -



No. Can't say I do. Enlighten me!

Alun wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in
t:


Alun wrote:



If I thought it should be decided by a poll, and I'm by no means sure
of that, then it should be done on-line. Just have a web page where
you click your chosen response. Chicago voters might be a problem,
though.

Do you remember Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf?

- Mike KB3EIA -




No. Can't say I do. Enlighten me!

A couple years back, People Magazine ran an online vote for "Most
Beautiful Person of the Year" on their website. This was shortly after
the movie "Titanic" was released. People's "choice " was for Leonardo
DeCaprio to run away with the honors (go figure!)

Well the word got around in the newsgroups that this was going on, and
the suggestion was made to all newsgroupies to go to the page and do a
write-in vote for "Hank, the angry drunken dwarf"

http://www.hankthedwarf.com/plain/frameset.html

Hank was definitely NOT one of the "beautiful people", and was a
perfect foil for the shallow business of celebrity worship as practiced
by the likes of People magazine. Unfortunately, Hank's "lifestyle"
caught up with him at an amazingly early age, and he is no longer with us.

But he and hundreds of thousands of newsgroupies spanked People
magazine a good one:

http://www.hankthedwarf.com/flash_dynamic/news.html


Quote:

PEOPLE ONLINE
MAY 1998
Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf wins People Online's Most Beautiful Person
in the World Poll receiving 230,169 votes dwarfing runner up Leonardo
DiCaprio and Rick Flair by over 200,000 votes.

People Online's articles after the spectacle said: "Though we're hardly
novices at handling online polls--this was out sixth--nothing could have
prepared us for the agony, the ecstacy…and well, the angry, drunken dwarf."



But my point in all this is:

Internet polls mean absolutely nothing whatsoever! I voted for Hank
three times in that poll, and if it happened today, I could vote for him
five times without trying. If I tried, I suppose I could give him around
300 votes or so.

This is the internet, and online voting won't work.


- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote in :

Alun wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in
t:


Alun wrote:



If I thought it should be decided by a poll, and I'm by no means sure
of that, then it should be done on-line. Just have a web page where
you click your chosen response. Chicago voters might be a problem,
though.

Do you remember Hank the Angry, Drunken Dwarf?

- Mike KB3EIA -




No. Can't say I do. Enlighten me!

A couple years back, People Magazine ran an online vote for "Most
Beautiful Person of the Year" on their website. This was shortly after
the movie "Titanic" was released. People's "choice " was for Leonardo
DeCaprio to run away with the honors (go figure!)

Well the word got around in the newsgroups that this was going on,
and
the suggestion was made to all newsgroupies to go to the page and do a
write-in vote for "Hank, the angry drunken dwarf"

http://www.hankthedwarf.com/plain/frameset.html

Hank was definitely NOT one of the "beautiful people", and was a
perfect foil for the shallow business of celebrity worship as practiced
by the likes of People magazine. Unfortunately, Hank's "lifestyle"
caught up with him at an amazingly early age, and he is no longer with
us.

But he and hundreds of thousands of newsgroupies spanked People
magazine a good one:

http://www.hankthedwarf.com/flash_dynamic/news.html


Quote:

PEOPLE ONLINE
MAY 1998
Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf wins People Online's Most Beautiful Person
in the World Poll receiving 230,169 votes dwarfing runner up Leonardo
DiCaprio and Rick Flair by over 200,000 votes.

People Online's articles after the spectacle said: "Though we're hardly
novices at handling online polls--this was out sixth--nothing could
have prepared us for the agony, the ecstacy…and well, the angry,
drunken dwarf."



But my point in all this is:

Internet polls mean absolutely nothing whatsoever! I voted for Hank
three times in that poll, and if it happened today, I could vote for
him five times without trying. If I tried, I suppose I could give him
around 300 votes or so.

This is the internet, and online voting won't work.


- Mike KB3EIA -



That's why I mentionned 'Chicago voters'. With apologies to anyone reading
this in Chicago, the town is famous for voting fraud. The term 'Chicago
voter' has been used to mean someone casting a vote on behalf of a dead
person. As you point out, in most Internet polls that isn't even
necessary, as no ID is submitted. That doesn't mean that there is no
solution, though. Some form of pre-registration process would be needed.

"Alun" wrote in message
...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in
y.com:


"Alun" wrote in message
...

However, my point is just that polling only licenced hams is just not
appropriate, as hams are not the only interested parties.


How would you then define the group to be polled? Even polling just
the licensed hams would be prohibitive in terms of postage as mentioned
in other posts.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



If I thought it should be decided by a poll, and I'm by no means sure of
that, then it should be done on-line. Just have a web page where you click
your chosen response. Chicago voters might be a problem, though.


Yeah I don't think they have internet access in their grave yards yet.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE