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Len Over 21 wrote:
As of 6 PM EST on 11 November 2003, the number of ECFS
documents on public view a
What would be interesting is to find out how many are for the
change, and how many want to keep the code.
Me too. All this roundabout bravo sierra could be bypassed if
there was a ballot sent to all approx. 700,000 U.S. licensed
hams. As long as quorum is met, it's on! This concept (Democracy)
frightens the bejesus out of many folks who claim to speak for
those not yet licensed.
But that's an empty argument. Get licensed and vote, tah dah! The
big bad "barrier" does not preclude anyone from getting their
no-code Tech ticket and executing a vote.
Simply announce a "record date" by which one must be licensed (To
give those "yet to be licensed a fair shot at a voice in the
process.) and send a ballot out to all those licensed "of
record." Makes too much sense and requires some effort. IOW,
against the contemporary trend.
73 de Bert
WA2SI
Those who have not obtained a licence because of the code trest are
just as entitled to express their opinion to the FCC as you or I.
I agree, Alun. The Technician license requires no code test.
73 de Bert
WA2SI
True, but some don't take it because they only want HF, not because
they couldn't answer the questions. All I'm saying is that they should
have a vote in any poll.
73 de Alun, N3KIP
Hmm, sounds like a motivational issue. If you want HF, the road to the
General and Extra begins with the Technician exam...no matter what. If
they're truly "interested" in participating in participating in the
process of this change, you'd think the Tech exam would be...wait a
sec, lemme stop. I just remembered whom we're talking about. Kinda
sad. :-(
No, Alun. I really DO believe that Amateur Radio operators should
define Amateur Radio. What a concept, eh?
73 de Bert
WA2SI
Well, I guess that's a religeous issue
Alun, if this were a religeous issue I'd be trying to convince you that all
real hams must use the code. I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything.
I'm merely stating my beliefs re. the retention of the 5-wpm Morse code exam
a.k.a. Element 1 for HF privies.
, so I won't be able to convince you
otherwise.
Two years ago, I made a decision to get my AR license. I'd heard some
rumblings of a code vs. no-code debate, but I didn't care. I wanted my
ticket. I had precious little spare time between a new house, a newborn
child, (Our second.) and a promotion at the job along with the increased
responsibilities, but I didn't care. I wanted my ticket. My XYL also needed
help (read: "free labor") getting her business off the ground and that ate
up spare time as well, but I didn't care. I wanted my ticket.
See a recurring theme? I wanted my ticket.
1. Research the requirements.
2. Meet said requirements.
3. Enjoy the privileges that come from meeting said requirements.
I decided that I'd get up early each day and spend 15 to 20 mins. practicing
with the ARRL code CD's. Additionally, I managed to sneak in an evening or
two before turning in. It never occured to me that someone was oppressing me
by forcing me to do this. I viewed it as an investment in bettering myself.
All because...yep, you guessed it, I wanted my ticket.
So no, Alun. You will NEVER convince me that 5-wpm Morse code test is a
"barrier" to anyone. 13-wpm? Maybe 20-wpm? Yeah, very likely. However, 5-wpm
just isn't. Not because I (or anybody else) say(s) so, just because it
isn't. Ask a Handi-Ham. Now there's an example of "motivated" individuals.
If you look me up you'll see I'm an Extra, and you'll be able to figure
out that I passed 20 wpm.
Congratulations, that's a significant accomplishment.
What you won't see, is that I've been a ham
since 1980, not 1992, as I'm not originally from this country.
I kinda picked up on that from your website. Nice job, BTW.
However, ham radio is not a job or a vocation, just a hobby.
So? Some would disagree, but let's proceed on the premise that it's only a
hobby. (We'll ignore the service aspect.) Why sould we lower the standards
for our hobby?
I welcome the
unmotivated as much as I would welcome anyone else.
Why on Earth would one want to welcome the unmotivated? How many other
aspects of AR can we apply the "don't get in the way of my fun" mindset? How
about rules and regs, or gentleman's agreements re. voluntary bandplans, or
how 'bout them writtens? Why should I demonstrate knowledge of digital modes
when I'm only interested in running SSB?
Why shouldn't they
have fun too?
No one's preventing anybody from having fun. Ex. An AR lives in an antenna
resticted apartment and laments how his/her options are limited. I'd hang a
retractable wire from the window at night, run a counterpoise, and operate
40m CW QRP via a tuner in a heartbeat...all for about $200, less than many
dual-bander V/UHF h/t's. You know how 40 is at night, yes? So where's the
real limiting factor? Um hmm.
If someone wants HF and doesn't want to learn code, why
should they bother to study for a VHF and above licence, when they could
be scuba diving or building model railroads or what have you? (Not hobbies
of mine, personally, but whatever turns you on).
Thank you, Alun. I couldn't have said it better myself.
I know this is sacrilege
to true beleivers, but so what?
The notion that only hams should decide the future of ham radio is just
that, a notion. I can absolutely guarantee that it is not a point of view
shared by the FCC, and it makes little sense to me either. At the very
least all prospective hams have a vested interest, irregardless of the
reasons they don't have a licence, reasonable or otherwise. I'm sure the
FCC would cast their net a lot wider than that.
73 de Alun, N3KIP
Gotta run for breakfast. It's cool to agree to disagree, Alun. Take care OM.
73 de Bert
WA2SI
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