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Old November 30th 03, 12:53 PM
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"Dee D. Flint" wrote:

(snip) Again keep in mind that I have said
Morse is necessary. While I happen to
believe that testing should be maintained that
is NOT the point I am debating at this time
and you keep trying to drag it back to testing.
I am stating that Morse code itself is necessary.



We wouldn't be having this discussion if it were not for the code testing
debate, Dee. That is why this mode is being discussed as opposed to some
other mode or discussions about the weather. I've acknowledged that Morse
code is enjoyable, entertaining, useful, and perhaps even necessary for you
to make some of the contacts you want to make. But we're not just talking
about you or the contacts you want to make. Your communications are
recreational or avocational in nature, not a necessity. And, as long as your
communications are not necessary, your use of Morse code in those
communications is not necessary.

This brings us back to the code testing debate. If Morse code is not
necessary to meet the goals and purposes of the Amateur Radio Service today,
Morse code testing should be eliminated. The _use_ of Morse code not an
issue here. You will still be able to use that mode when you find it
necessary to make the contacts you want. Others will still be able to learn
code if they want. But the test itself, as a license requirement, should
end.


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Old November 30th 03, 06:32 PM
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In article .net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:

"Dee D. Flint" wrote:

(snip) Again keep in mind that I have said
Morse is necessary. While I happen to
believe that testing should be maintained that
is NOT the point I am debating at this time
and you keep trying to drag it back to testing.
I am stating that Morse code itself is necessary.



We wouldn't be having this discussion if it were not for the code testing
debate, Dee. That is why this mode is being discussed as opposed to some
other mode or discussions about the weather. I've acknowledged that Morse
code is enjoyable, entertaining, useful, and perhaps even necessary for you
to make some of the contacts you want to make. But we're not just talking
about you or the contacts you want to make. Your communications are
recreational or avocational in nature, not a necessity. And, as long as your
communications are not necessary, your use of Morse code in those
communications is not necessary.


Dwight, amateur radio is a SERVICE...to the nation in times of need
and "everyone knows" that ONLY morse code can get through when
nothing else can, ergo it is "necessary" to have it. That's why all the
other public safety and distress-emergency communications users and
providers still use morse code.

This brings us back to the code testing debate. If Morse code is not
necessary to meet the goals and purposes of the Amateur Radio Service today,
Morse code testing should be eliminated. The _use_ of Morse code not an
issue here. You will still be able to use that mode when you find it
necessary to make the contacts you want. Others will still be able to learn
code if they want. But the test itself, as a license requirement, should
end.


The TEST and the USE cannot be separated, Dwight. It is "necessary"
to keep the test forever and ever so that there will be this "pool of
trained operators (in CW)" to help earth survive on the next invasion
of spacefaring aliens.

:-)

LHA


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"Len Over 21" wrote:

(snip) The TEST and the USE cannot be
separated, Dwight. It is "necessary" to keep
the test forever and ever so that there will be
this "pool of trained operators (in CW)" to
help earth survive on the next invasion of
spacefaring aliens.



LOL. Those darn aliens have had their eyes on Earth for some time now.
Luckily, CW keeps us well prepared for any stunt they might try. I've even
heard of a secret Air Force project to study the effects of CW on captured
aliens. ;-)


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

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Old December 1st 03, 07:23 PM
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In article .net, "Dwight
Stewart" writes:

"Len Over 21" wrote:

(snip) The TEST and the USE cannot be
separated, Dwight. It is "necessary" to keep
the test forever and ever so that there will be
this "pool of trained operators (in CW)" to
help earth survive on the next invasion of
spacefaring aliens.


LOL. Those darn aliens have had their eyes on Earth for some time now.
Luckily, CW keeps us well prepared for any stunt they might try. I've even
heard of a secret Air Force project to study the effects of CW on captured
aliens. ;-)


...probably at "Area 51." :-)

I just hope everyone in "the pool" can stand all the chlorine necessary
to keep it sanitary... :-)

For anyone wanting serious thinking (a novel concept in here), there's
always Brooks AFB in San Antonio, the USAF School of Aerospace
Medicine. So far, the folks at Brooks haven't touched on aliens, not
even the green-card types.

LHA




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Old December 2nd 03, 02:16 PM
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"Len Over 21" wrote:

I just hope everyone in "the pool" can stand
all the chlorine necessary to keep it sanitary... :-)

For anyone wanting serious thinking (a novel
concept in here), there's always Brooks AFB in
San Antonio, the USAF School of Aerospace
Medicine. So far, the folks at Brooks haven't
touched on aliens, not even the green-card
types.



As for the chlorine, you might want to poke around Northeastern Utah and
Southeastern Idaho. The Defense Department in that area has been hiring a
lot of people with biology and chemistry degrees over the last decade or so.
Considering the number of job listings, I cannot help but wonder what
they're up to.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/



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