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(Brian) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
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Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From: (Brian)
Date: 12/21/03 2:20 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Steve, I think it has to do with the disincentive of Morse Code
testing. You might want to check with Len on this.

Why?

Morse Code is only required for access to less than 3% of all Amateur
allocations, none of which is above 30MHz.

I hope you meant, "most of which...," unless we just got some lowfer
freqs.

Lennie keeps asserting that the future of Amateur Radio is in the new
technologies, none of which is occuring below 30Mhz.

Why not? What have you been doing with that Extra license? I hope
that you haven't been squandering a national resource.

He's been collecting issues of QST and memorizing every ad.

That way he's going to be a "guru" and "know all about it."


Lennie ALSO keeps insisting Amateur Radio is "stuck" in the 1930's
somewhere, yet evidence in every media indicates he's grossly mistaken.

See the Annual Classic Radio Issue, plus the February, March, April,
May, June, July, August, September, October, November, and December
issues.

He might have gotten only to the March issue.

When he got to March he started counting cadence and hasn't
been seen for a while...


Also,
the fact that the majority of Amateur Radio activity takes place above
30Mhz
further exposes Lennie's rants for the silliness and antagonistic fodder
they
are.

Citation, please.

At best all he can do is a parking ticket. :-)


Ask Lennie? I could, but that would just amke the heap of unanswered
questions that much higher.

Humble yourself.

Do not ask the impossible. :-)

LHA

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Brian wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message
...
Len Over 21 wrote:

...written by many of the beligerant...

"belligerent"

...as long as such beligerance remains rooted

"belligerence"

Dave K8MN

Dave, once again, takes the honors at the national spelling bee,
beating out 9 year old Mary Caldwell, who ran off-stage in tears.

Actually, I took top honors from seventy-year-old Leonard "Atila"
Anderson, a PROFESSIONAL writer.

You couldn't take "top honors" on a toy top.

I've been a professional writer (accepting monetary compensation
for writing work performed) since 1968.

The age is 71, not 70.

Too bad you'll never make that age...

LHA

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in message ...
Brian wrote:

Steve, I think it has to do with the disincentive of Morse Code
testing. You might want to check with Len on this.


You'll pardon our confusion.

Our confusion? Do you have a Frenchman in your pocket?

*Our* confusion--Steve's and mine. Steve wrote (and you snipped):

"Lennie's "disincentive" had/has NOTHING to do with Morse Code,
Brain...It has to do with having absolutely NO understanding of what
Amateur Radio is all about, what it's purpose and capabilities are, and
what it means to be a 'part' of something."

Steve doesn't appear to be confused with those comments. But I could
be mistaken. Why don't you get with him on the "back-channel," get
your stories straight, then meet up with me here at some point in the
future.

You've been acting as Len's representative
for a few posts now in speaking of his motivations or lack thereof. I
wasn't aware that you'd turned the controls over to him.

I haven't.

Someone should tell you that he's busy writing his own views on the
subject...in a way.

I agreed with his view that amateur radio has a divide between those
who can accept change and those who cannot.

His view was thrown out by Steve because Len had no amateur license
and dare not have any views whatsoever on amateur radio.

I have a license and agreed with Len's view, so now it's "attack,
attack, attack," like rabid dogs. Pack mentality. Bad dog.

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Brian) writes:

Dave Heil wrote in message
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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , "Kim W5TIT"

writes:

Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


pssssst, I think Len is superior at pulling Dave's strings...

Shhhh...don't tell anybody... :-) :-) :-)

Is this the part where you make me one of your playthings or have me
fall into one of your carefully laid snares, Len?

And he has arrived. Congratulations Dave.

...told ya. :-)

LHA

Beebeep!

Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 12/22/03 1:10 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Jimmie isn't stating any "facts."

Lennie! Again with the belittling names towards people who don't do it to
you.

Do we need to re-post the posts wherein YOU stated you DON'T respond with
such cutesy names when not so addressed yourself?

It's been at least five years now that you've been calling Jim "Jimmie",
the "pedantic parson", etc.

Why do you lie? Why do you insist on making such obviously irresponsible
assertions only to have them fed back to you?

Is being an idiot a family curse?

Unlike the ARRL...which IS a dues-asking, amateur license required,
membership organization and political special interest group and a
publishing business, NCI does not pretend to represent "all" amateurs.

An Amateur Radio license is NOT required for membership in the American
Radio Relay League. It never has.

When the ARRL lobbies in washington, it DOES seek to represent ALL
Amateurs, dues paying or not.

I have yet to see the ARRL submit any document saying "We represent all
Amateurs except..(fill in the names)..."

ARRL pretends to "represent all amateurs" yet they still haven't
gotten close to a majority of all licensed U.S. amateurs to belong
to them. They've not been able to do that for years past.

Yet the ARRL IS accepted by the FCC and a number of other Washington
agencies as THE defacto representive of Amateur Radio as a whole.

This is a fact. It is not subject to YOUR opinion, Lennie.

Sorry.

ARRL refuses to take a stand on code testing in the USA yet the
International Amateur Radio Union long ago came out for eliminating
the code test internationally. Once that happens, NCI has stated
that it will dissolve, cease to exist as a special interest entity.

The code test requirement as an international regulation has been
eliminated.

So I don't see the NCI wrapping things up.

ARRL is your shepherd, you shall not want...

Lennie is an arrogant fool, we know this well...

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 12/23/03 12:00 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

That way he's going to be a "guru" and "know all about it."

Whatever I know about Amateur Radio is more than you can ever hope to know,
Your Scumminess...

Over 30 years of PRACTICAL experience.

Ask Lennie? I could, but that would just amke the heap of unanswered
questions that much higher.

Humble yourself.

Do not ask the impossible.

Lennie has clearly indicated that he does NOT have the experience in
Amateur Radio to make an informed opinion. His technical knowledge is dubious,
no doubt the off-spring of a well-honed cut-and-paste skill.

My only "humbling" before Lennie would be to not further embarass him with
his own foolishness.

Steve, K4YZ

Subject: Why You Don't Like The ARRL
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 12/23/03 12:29 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

The age is 71, not 70.

Too bad you'll never make that age...

Hopefully you won't make it PAST it.

Steve, K4YZ