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KØHB January 19th 04 08:21 PM

Pathetic lack of leadership
 
If you thought the "Plan for the 21st Century Ham" by theNCVEC gang of
four was lame, wait till you see what the ARRL gang of fifteen is
proposing!

A warmed over version of incentive licensing with 3 classes, Novice,
General, and Extra.

Novice is still ghetto-ized and renewable until you assume room
temperature.

Extra just like today, including 5WPM Morse exam.

General just like today except without Morse.

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!

But there's more.....

A third of a million Tech/Tech+ would get a free pass to General.

All Advanced (currently about 82,000) would get a free pass to Advanced.

That works out to about 60% of todays licensees would get a free pass to
the next higher license without testing for that grade.

And while I personally don't support a Morse test for any license, if we
must have a Morse test for Extra, then lets make it something 'Extra',
not the same old count-the-dots-and-dashes which Novices have been
passing for over a half-century! 20WPM sounds about right.

C'mon, BoD, this looks like something cobbled together in a
committee-of-fifteen-tired-old-men-afraid-they-won't-be-reelected, not
the National Association of Amateur Radio with leadership and a vision
for the future.

Nasty letter to follow.

Love always,

de Hans, K0HB

I AM THE ARRL!!!




KØHB January 19th 04 08:33 PM


"KØHB" wrote


All Advanced (currently about 82,000) would get a free pass to
Advanced.


Make that a free pass to EXTRA.






WA8ULX January 19th 04 08:57 PM

If you thought the "Plan for the 21st Century Ham" by theNCVEC gang of
four was lame, wait till you see what the ARRL gang of fifteen is
proposing!


Isnt the ARRL wonderful, my guess is that Membership and Book Sales must be
slipping.

Dan/W4NTI January 19th 04 10:48 PM


"WA8ULX" wrote in message
...
If you thought the "Plan for the 21st Century Ham" by theNCVEC gang of
four was lame, wait till you see what the ARRL gang of fifteen is
proposing!


Isnt the ARRL wonderful, my guess is that Membership and Book Sales must

be
slipping.


Can't wait till they show up on the top end of 75 meters. 100w and a
G5RV.....yeah buddy.

Dan/W4NTI



WA8ULX January 19th 04 11:03 PM

Can't wait till they show up on the top end of 75 meters. 100w and a
G5RV.....yeah buddy.

Dan/W4NTI



Do you think the ARRL will Print 10 Codes in QST? Maybe they could have an
article on the correct use of Echo Mikes.

Len Over 21 January 20th 04 02:10 AM

In article ,
(WA8ULX) writes:

Do you think the ARRL will Print 10 Codes in QST? Maybe they could have an
article on the correct use of Echo Mikes.


Why? Did the editors reject YOUR article on them?

LHA / WMD

KØHB January 20th 04 05:03 AM


"N2EY" wrote


Try a little diplomacy.



"The art of life is to show your hand. There is no diplomacy like
candor. You may lose by it now and then, but it will be a loss well
gained if you do. Nothing is so boring as having to keep up a
deception."
-- Edward Verall Lucas




N2EY January 20th 04 06:13 PM

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message hlink.net...

Can't wait till they show up on the top end of 75 meters. 100w and a
G5RV.....yeah buddy.


What would be the problem, with such a setup, Dan? I've made thousands
of
excellent contacts on that band with a similar setup.

oh wait - those contacts were on 80 meter CW.

But it's the same part of the radio spectrum, right? "Radio physics"
is
the same for all modes, isn't it?

---

Here's a concept I read very recently that may explain the "free
upgrade"
thingie: 'Blame It On BPL'.

Giving all ~322,000 Techs and Tech Pluses a free upgrade to General
will more than triple their numbers, from ~141,000 to ~463,000. If
even 10% of the upgradees get on the HF ham bands, that's over 32,000
new sources of trouble
for BPL systems....

73 de Jim, N2EY

MnMikew January 20th 04 06:30 PM


"N8KDV" wrote in message
...
Heard it 20 years ago, 30 years ago... and guess what? Ham radio is still
going! Amazin ain't it!

Yep. Besides, the internet is boring.



Dan/W4NTI January 20th 04 07:50 PM


"WA8ULX" wrote in message
...
Can't wait till they show up on the top end of 75 meters. 100w and a
G5RV.....yeah buddy.

Dan/W4NTI



Do you think the ARRL will Print 10 Codes in QST? Maybe they could have

an
article on the correct use of Echo Mikes.


I am sure they could drop some of the ham radio adds and put in some ten
codes and echo mikes to help pay the bills for the loss of so many members.

Dan/W4NTI



WA8ULX January 20th 04 08:06 PM

I am sure they could drop some of the ham radio adds and put in some ten
codes and echo mikes to help pay the bills for the loss of so many members.

Dan/W4NTI


Im sure they will. Dan I have a great Idea, since the FCC and the" CBRRL" are
HELL bent on destroying Ham Radio, I have a great way to introduce the
CBplussers to HF.
When you hear the CBplussers calling CQ, just answer them on CW, perfectly
Legal, and it will probably **** them OFF. Thats what Im going to do.

JJ January 20th 04 08:11 PM

chocolate rabbit wrote:

meaningless ranting deleted
Jay
SWL for 26 yrs


So you were SWL for 26 years and never could pass the test for a ham
license.


KØHB January 22nd 04 03:12 AM


"stewart" wrote

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!

Stop your lame whining.

I wasn't whining, I was yawning.

For details consult http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy

73, de Hans, K0HB







Mike Coslo January 22nd 04 03:27 AM

KØHB wrote:

"stewart" wrote

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!

Stop your lame whining.

I wasn't whining, I was yawning.


Well at least cover your mouth, Hans! ;^)

- Mike KB3EIA -


CW January 22nd 04 07:06 AM

You undoubtedly listen to FM radio. Are you a DJ? Do you have your own talk
show? No? Why not, they wouldn't hire you?
"JJ" wrote in message
...
chocolate rabbit wrote:

meaningless ranting deleted
Jay
SWL for 26 yrs


So you were SWL for 26 years and never could pass the test for a ham
license.




TL Fort January 24th 04 11:44 AM

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:22:11 -0500, "chocolate rabbit"
wrote:


Burt and Wayne Green are right on this one I am afraid.
Even new 2 Meter radios are going for under $200.00
at HRO and AES. Nobody's buying ham gear except
for on e-Bay where you chances of getting "E-screwed"
on that "perfect condition used radio" are better than 7 to 1.



Actually, I got 2 Icom handhelds for that price from HRO. They sure
beat FRS for keeping contact withs the kids. Getting a tech liscense
for the kids isn't too hard either. You get a whole family of hams
that don't need to pick of a cell phone around town. They don't need
FRS with it's crowded bands and you get much greater range.

Tracy

Bill Sohl January 25th 04 02:57 PM


"TL Fort" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:22:11 -0500, "chocolate rabbit"
wrote:


Burt and Wayne Green are right on this one I am afraid.
Even new 2 Meter radios are going for under $200.00
at HRO and AES.


What's wrong with that?

Nobody's buying ham gear except
for on e-Bay where you chances of getting "E-screwed"
on that "perfect condition used radio" are better than 7 to 1.


So if no one is buying new gear, how does HRO, AES, etc
stay in business.

Actually, I got 2 Icom handhelds for that price from HRO. They sure
beat FRS for keeping contact withs the kids. Getting a tech liscense
for the kids isn't too hard either. You get a whole family of hams
that don't need to pick of a cell phone around town. They don't need
FRS with it's crowded bands and you get much greater range.


Nothing wrong with that either.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK





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