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Ralph Aichinger February 25th 04 06:21 PM

Austria: Codetest out, BPL in
 
Today HF access was officially granted to all former
CEPT class 2 licensees in Austria by decree. Technical
problems with the electronic publication had caused us
some waiting for this.

(Announcement in German on http://www.oevsv.at)

But not all is good in Austria:

The EU funded BPL project OPERA makes fighting against
this form of interference even harder. In my home town,
Linz, there is a major roll-out going on, and the utility
is taking amateurs to the court for libel if they state
their position too clearly.

If you are for or against code tests, fighting against
BPL should unite all amateurs!

/ralph

William February 26th 04 02:17 AM

Ralph Aichinger wrote in message ...

If you are for or against code tests, fighting against
BPL should unite all amateurs!

/ralph


Ralph, one would hope so, but not in America. The PCTA are too
[expletive deleted] analcentric to be distracted by BPL. See the
"War! What is it good for?" thread. 1942-style radiomanship. Good
grief.

Helmut February 26th 04 12:39 PM

Servus, Ralph,

hast du noch nicht gemerkt, daß hier in der Gruppe fast nur Idioten
schreiben? Ameri-Egoisten die glauben, die sind der Nabel der Welt. Warum
geht es überall sonst in der Welt ohne diese depperte Morsediskussion
reibungslos über die Bühne?

Anstatt daß die amerikanischen Funkfreunde hergehen, die Unterstützung der
nationalen Sicherheitsorganisationen wie FEMA und Homeland Security,
National Huricane Center oder ähnlichen Gruppierungen suchen, versucht die
nationale amerikanische Amateurfunkervereinigung (sind übrigens nur ca 20%
der Amateurfunker in Amerika Mitglied) da selbst etwas auf die Beine zu
stellen. Sieh Dir unser Beispiel Linz an, da hat auch das Rote Kreuz mit den
Beschwerden dem Ganzen einen "offiziellen" Anstrich verliehen. Und die
Gegenklage der PLC - Betreiber muß ja erst einmal abgewartet werden, was da
herauskommt.

Jedenfalls ist es sehr lustig, hier zu lesen, und manchmal wundere ich mich
schon ein bißchen, wie Leute mit null Bildung überhaupt eine Lizenz erwerben
können. Da wissen doch die Wenigsten, was außerhalb der eigenen Zaunpfosten
los ist. Die glauben doch tatsächlich, ihre Soldaten sterben im Irak für das
Öl, damit sie billiger tanken können. (Siehe EXXON + Mobil Thread).

Schönen Tag noch und 73
de OE8SOQ
Helmut


"William" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
| Ralph Aichinger wrote in message
...
|
| If you are for or against code tests, fighting against
| BPL should unite all amateurs!
|
| /ralph
|
| Ralph, one would hope so, but not in America. The PCTA are too
| [expletive deleted] analcentric to be distracted by BPL. See the
| "War! What is it good for?" thread. 1942-style radiomanship. Good
| grief.



Mike Coslo February 27th 04 12:18 AM

Helmut wrote:
Servus, Ralph,

hast du noch nicht gemerkt, daß hier in der Gruppe fast nur Idioten
schreiben? Ameri-Egoisten die glauben, die sind der Nabel der Welt. Warum
geht es überall sonst in der Welt ohne diese depperte Morsediskussion
reibungslos über die Bühne?


Hehe. Perhaps you are correct, only idiots post here! Welome, you'll fit
right in I think.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Helmut February 27th 04 05:26 PM

Hey, Mike, wrong translation,

"Mike Coslo" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
| Helmut wrote:
| Servus, Ralph,
|
| hast du noch nicht gemerkt, daß hier in der Gruppe fast nur Idioten
| schreiben? Ameri-Egoisten die glauben, die sind der Nabel der Welt.
Warum
| geht es überall sonst in der Welt ohne diese depperte Morsediskussion
| reibungslos über die Bühne?
|
| Hehe. Perhaps you are correct, only idiots post here!

It is: "almost only idiots"

| Welome, you'll fit right in I think.

I did not ecpect you to be in this group, Micheal. Do you feel like that?
|

Where did you catch your german?


| - Mike KB3EIA -
|



Mike Coslo February 29th 04 06:46 PM

Helmut wrote:

[trans] didn't you notice , that ALMOST all posters are idiots here in this
group, did you?[trans end]



For what it's worth, Helmut, I translated it as *All* the posters are
idiots in this group.

Of course your German is much better than mine! ;^) For that matter
your English may be also, but the difference does make a big difference
in how we react.

After all when you say "almost all", that leaves everyone to thik that
"ahh, he doesn't think *I'm* an idiot! 8^)

- Mike KB3EIA -


Helmut February 29th 04 08:34 PM

Hey, Mike, its funny, isn't it?

"Mike Coslo" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
| Helmut wrote:
|
| [trans] didn't you notice , that ALMOST all posters are idiots here in
this
| group, did you?[trans end]
|
|
| For what it's worth, Helmut, I translated it as *All* the posters are
| idiots in this group.

Sometimes, one word miss is all miss. And as the word "fast" [almost] is
also an english word, it is even more difficult.

|
| Of course your German is much better than mine! ;^)

I've tried to learn now for almost 52 years, and never will be perfect.

| For that matter your English may be also,

I try hard not to misspell.

| but the difference does make a big difference
| in how we react.
|
| After all when you say "almost all", that leaves everyone to thik that
| "ahh, he doesn't think *I'm* an idiot! 8^)

I never would dare to accuse the whole holy amateur radio newsgroup

Mike, for a non-native german speaker it is not easy, to catch the "little"
differences. German is accused to be one of the most difficult languages to
learn, at least here in Europe. Your translation was not that bad as all. I
would be glad to accomplish the same - in italian.

Take care
Helmut
OE8SOQ

| - Mike KB3EIA -
|



Steve Robeson, K4CAP February 29th 04 08:41 PM

(William) wrote in message . com...

Ralph, one would hope so, but not in America. The PCTA are too
[expletive deleted] analcentric to be distracted by BPL. See the
"War! What is it good for?" thread. 1942-style radiomanship. Good
grief.


(Sigh)......

Brain...re-read waht you wrote, and THEN try to deny that you
have your nose so far up Lennie's butt that every time he breaks wind,
you have to wipe your nose...

Sheeeeeeesh......

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson, K4CAP February 29th 04 08:50 PM

"Helmut" wrote in message ...

Dear Larry, there is nothing to be forgiven for. I have to express my
reverence. The referenced reply was meant for a native german speaker, and
not for someone with german as second or third language. Please feel free to
further reply in german, if this helps to practice your language skills.
Practicing these skills is one of the reasons for me to take part in the
discussions in the ham newsgroups.


Uh oh, Helmut...

We have one poster in particular that is adamandt that "we"
(Amateur Radio operators) DON'T do anything that resembles the
"international goodwill" US regulations say we help to promote.

Your post (and Ralph's) disproves it in a big way...idiots or
not! =)

73

Steve, K4YZ

Helmut February 29th 04 10:07 PM

Hi, Steve, old man,

| Uh oh,[is this the way you say "Hi"?] Helmut...

I have to admit, you've got me on this one! On the first go, I did not get
figured out, what you wanted to express. Please help me to get this
straightend out.


| We have one poster [a person in this NG, or a picture to stick to the
wall] in particular that [did you mean "who",then it is the person; "that"
will imply its the picture] is adamandt [a word i've never heard before, nor
did my dictionary] that "we" (Amateur Radio operators) DON'T do anything [do
nothing?] that resembles the
| "international goodwill" US regulations [you mean a law? constitution?]
say we help to promote.
|

I think the key will be an explanation of the word "adamandt", or a
substitution for that word.

| Your post (and Ralph's) disproves it in a big way...idiots or
| not! =)
|
| 73
|
| Steve, K4YZ

It is challenging, Steve, will send you the translation, as soon as I know
what the paragraph is meant to say.

Do quick, I am waiting

Helmut




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