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William March 14th 04 07:45 PM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...Leonard H Anderson.

Yeah...right...

Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do

you
bother with him?

73 de Jim, N2EY

TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with Len.


There's more to that than is apparent on the surface.

The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other
subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test
issue.


Talk about obsessed.

The Morse Code test issue is being respolved in Washington and
Gettysburg via the NPRM process. All indicators are that it will be
deleted, or at least reserved for the highest class (and greatest
breadth of priviledges...Mostly in parts of the spectrum where only
Morse Code can be sued anyway...).


Morse can be sued? Now there's a tactic that hasn't been tried yet.

There's no "misdirection", Yuor Scumminess.


Yuoza!

And if you'd ANSWER some of the questions, they MIGHT go away,


Only to be replaced by more questions.

IF
you have a valid answer for them..."I don't HAVE to answer and you
can't make me" is pretty sophmoric...nothing less that we expect from
you and PuppetBoy, however.

Steve, K4YZ


"POP" goes the weazel.

Steve Robeson, K4CAP March 14th 04 10:10 PM

(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...

The Morse Code test issue is being respolved in Washington and
Gettysburg via the NPRM process. All indicators are that it will be
deleted, or at least reserved for the highest class (and greatest
breadth of priviledges...Mostly in parts of the spectrum where only
Morse Code can be sued anyway...).


Morse can be sued? Now there's a tactic that hasn't been tried yet.

There's no "misdirection", Yuor Scumminess.


Yuoza!

And if you'd ANSWER some of the questions, they MIGHT go away,


Only to be replaced by more questions.

IF
you have a valid answer for them..."I don't HAVE to answer and you
can't make me" is pretty sophmoric...nothing less that we expect from
you and PuppetBoy, however.

Steve, K4YZ


"POP" goes the weazel.


I consider it pretty good evidence of "mission accomplished" when
all you can "reply" to are some typos, PuppetBoy...

Not that I expected anything else.

Steve, K4YZ

William March 15th 04 02:50 AM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com...

"POP" goes the weazel.


I consider it pretty good evidence of "mission accomplished" when
all you can "reply" to are some typos, PuppetBoy...


Seething rage is your mission? I'd say you are quite accomplished.

Not that I expected anything else.

Steve, K4YZ


So sorry not to live up to your expectations.

Dave Heil March 15th 04 03:41 PM



Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:


You are NOT anything but a poor deluded and ignorant petty person
trying to control others by insults, innuendo, and ignorant ramblings
of suppositions from an obviously NOT-insider.


Wow, Len! That paragraph pretty much sums up your actions here.

Stop trying to impose your own personal fantasy on others. You
can NOT transform reality to suit yourself...try to suit yourself to
the reality. Accomplish that and you've made yourself acceptible
to others.


This one sounds a lot like you too! Your personal fantasy of somehow
being a part of amateur radio and outlining the regulations under which
amateur radio should be governed is the stuff of legend. You must
realize that you can't transform reality to suit yourself. Maybe you
should work on trying to make yourself acceptible to others.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil March 15th 04 04:00 PM

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,
(William) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
...
In article ,

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...Leonard H Anderson.

Yeah...right...

Since his claim has been proven to be false so many times, Steve, why do

you
bother with him?

73 de Jim, N2EY


TAFKARJ, my theory is that he can't help himmself. He is obsessed with Len.


There's more to that than is apparent on the surface.

The PCTAs all use misdirection via questions or "challenges" on other
subjects in order to divert the thread away from the morse code test
issue. By being sufficiently inflamatory, those misdirections now
attract others who just want to fight and holler at others. The threads
diverge and take on new subjects and the PCTAs are saved...their
arguments for retention of the code test were not viable so they feel
secure in not having "lost."


You mean that it is like your recent shuffle and twirl on amateur
radio's involvement in the L.A. Marathon--the one you watched, read
about in the paper and spoke about with an unnamed race official? You
certainly did some misdirection after being provided with those url
links.

TAFKARJ uses the newsgroup as a Chat Room to talk about almost
anything BUT the morse code test and ventures far, far afield from
amateur radio policy subjects, so far that they don't include any
amateur radio at all. He wants to be an essayist.


Don't be modest, Len. Jim's output pales to yours. You write as if you
were being paid by the word.

Mr. Foreign Service (who doesn't know that the Amana Colonies are
in Iowa!) simply wants to fight. He isn't quite so obsessed as the
gunnery nurse but he has the arrogance of an SA fairy. He likes to
use the misdirection of "He's an amateur and I ain't" (in varying words)
therefore trying to imply that I am "nothing." :-)


Believe me, Len. You're "something" but you aren't involved in any
capacity with amateur radio.

When you have some spare time (and you seem to have plenty of that), why
not put forth one of your lengthy pieces on these newly found Amana
Colonies. I'm sure you'll hold us spellbound.

The gunnery nurse is just nuts and can't get his act together. He
can't take the slightest negative comment without going berserk.

A common trait among them is one of Control. They want (perhaps
need) to moderate the newsgroup to their view, their opinions, their
personal likes/dislikes. Control and Ego together to build the concept
of righteous service to the nation by being hams.


Talk about control! How about a fellow who is not a participant in nor
a regulator of amateur radio who would tell us how amateur radio should
be regulated? How about one who would set a minimum age for entry into
amateur radio or one who would dictate whether morse testing should be
part of amateur radio license testing? Try reining in your gusto for
control and that ego of yours.

Amateur radio is supposed to be an enjoyable hobby. But, with the
tree regulars mentioned above (up a tree without a piddle), it's all
one of being inordinately proud of their imaginary world and a desire
to be respected because of that Belief.


Ham radio is an enjoyable hobby. You'll have to take my word for it.
It isn't an imaginary world at all. It is a world with over 600,000
individuals licensed just in the U.S. That you don't respect any who
hold those licenses reads like more of your "Fox and the Grapes"
routine.

The morse code test is being removed from the regulations of many
nations' amateur radio. PCTAs cannot abide by that. They remain
in denial since loss of the morse test is a loss to their self-esteem.


Not abiding isn't the same as not approving or working against. It has
nothing to do with self-esteem since many of us have passed a number of
morse exams. Worry about your own self-esteem. After all, you're the
guy who is on the sidelines.

They can't use that mighty morse test as a bragging point if it is
eliminated.


Sure they can. Elimination of a morse test or reduction in morse
testing speed doesn't mean they never took or passed such a test.
You're brag-yet-to-come of an "Extra right out of the box" is another
matter.
You can't brag if you didn't take the action. You haven't done so.

"If they had to take a morse test, EVERYBODY has to
take a morse test to be as 'good' as they."


Really? I'll let you know about it the first time I run into someone on
the bands who has never taken a morse test and who can copy 35 or 40
wpm.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil March 15th 04 04:27 PM

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

The Carson Show? Johnny Carson? Aren't you the guy always singing the
song about others living in the past?


Johnny Carson is still living and around here.


Is he doing a late night, public access cable show?

Dave K8MN

Steve Robeson, K4CAP March 15th 04 04:39 PM

(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com...

"POP" goes the weazel.


I consider it pretty good evidence of "mission accomplished" when
all you can "reply" to are some typos, PuppetBoy...


Seething rage is your mission? I'd say you are quite accomplished.

Not that I expected anything else.

Steve, K4YZ


So sorry not to live up to your expectations.


Oh, no! Brain! Don't be sorry! You've HAVE "lived up to (my)
expectations", and MORE, for which I am sorry to say!

Now...if you'd just pony up some evidence to back up all of the
silly claims you've made here, or be a man and just admit you've been
polishing your own brass and move on...either way you'd gain much more
respect than claiming Lennie as your "mentor"...THAT was nuts!

Steve, K4YZ

Steve Robeson, K4CAP March 15th 04 04:55 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...

YOU are the one who always insists that typos are indicative of
"rage". I ahve NEVER stated that except to sarcastically throw it
back at YOU when you do it yourself.


But Quixoterobeson, you're always in a rage. So when you commit
typo's, you're in a... rage.

So how did Len get it wrong?


Doesn't matter, Brian, to the gunnery nurse I'm either lying, a putz,
or scum, or any combination thereof.


Lennie, you've had several lucid moments in this forum, and in
those moments I called you "Len", sincerely thanked you for your
participation/input, and moved on along.

I've acknowledged YOUR knowledge of radio theory, and even asked
you to conduct/participate in a forum that would have put you in the
drivers seat, license or not.

YOUR response was a weeks-long on-going rant about how you'd NOT
be "forced" to do such a thing, yet you couldn't understand why such a
fountain of knowledge such as yourself ( a "professional") was scorned
by "amateurs".

Then you go right back to uttering the same transparent, easily
refuted mistruths about Amateur Radio in general and some Amateurs in
particular.

You're a person of unique and contradictory presentation, and
unfortunately for you none of the contradictions substantiate any of
what you have to say about the "some" of us or Amateur Radio in
general.

Sucks to be you, Lennie. I am sure "you" was a nice guy once
upon a time, but what's wound up here is anyhting but.

If you honestly and sincerely stuck to your assertion of "I am
only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue", and actually
had some argument other than "commercial ships and the Army don't use
it", we might find soemthing to talk about.

YOU sank any hopes of that when you set in with the "Nazi",
"jack-boot", etc etc rants.

Again...sucks to be you.

Back up and punt, Lennie...It's all you have left.

Steve, K4YZ

William March 16th 04 02:22 AM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...

Oh, no! Brain! Don't be sorry! You've HAVE "lived up to (my)
expectations", and MORE, for which I am sorry to say!

Now...if you'd just pony up some evidence to back up all of the
silly claims you've made here, or be a man and just admit you've been
polishing your own brass and move on...either way you'd gain much more
respect than claiming Lennie as your "mentor"...THAT was nuts!

Steve, K4YZ


Quixoterobeson, you've got the typo problem cleared up. What kind of
meds are you on?


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