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Old March 3rd 04, 03:50 PM
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TAFKA Rev Jim, I'll explain it to you. SA has two existing coded HF
licenses. ITU says you can drop code, so they come out with a third
coded license. Bizarre.


Question, Brain...


Brain?

I have never seen Jim Miccolis refer to you as anything but
"Brian"...


How is it that you misspell my name in one fragment sentence, and
spell it correctly in another?


Because, BRAIN, it's not about how I address YOU...It's about
why do YOU address Jim Miccolis with belittling endearments when
HE has never addressed YOU as anything except your proper name?


That scumbag you run with likes to do that. Jim has never
refered to him as anything but "Len", yet "Len" finds countless ways
to belittle him.

Lennie does that because he cannot "argue" or "debate" Jim
otherwise. He has to make Jim appear less-than-adequate in order to
promote himself. The weak minded and the foolish HAVE to do
that...It's a defense mechanism.

Are YOU that weak minded and foolish?

He did the same thing with me when he launched into allegations
of being a "jack booted thug", "Nazi", "elitist", "Dill Sergeant", etc
etc etc, when I had not so addressed him. He is treated and addressed
in the same tone and with the same viciousness as he unleashed.

Is that how you feel? Do YOU need to belittle Jim in order
to effectively express yourself when discussing things with/about him?

Please do not humiliate yourself by trying to misdirect this
question by asking ME about how I address Lennie...I've already
answered that.

Stay focused...you were asked a direct, specific question.

You CAN answer direct, specific questions, can't you?

So WHY do YOU inisist on following the insulting and demeaning
example of a known pathological liar and antagonist in engaging in any
interaction with him...?!?!


Stebe, you misunderstand (what's new?).

I am the ONE who has tagged N2EY with the title "TAFKA Rev. Jim" after
his dishonesty in altering Kim's posts. He previously put forth the
image of being as pure as the driven snow. But after that little
stunt, he can no longer be referred to as Reverend Jim. So, "formerly
known as" sounded good to me.

You got a problem with it?


I have a problem with you lying.

I have a problem with you following in the footsteps of a person
who is a known pathological liar and antagonist. It's embarrassing to
see a contemporary Veteran and Amateur licensee resorting to Lennie's
tactics.

As for what "sounded good to (you)"...My question STILL
remains...Did Jim refer to you by any name, title or endearment OTHER
than "Brian"...?!?!

If not, why do YOU find it necessary to do so...?!?!

Are you, after all, as shallow and immature as I thought you
really are?


No. Perhaps even more so. Perhaps almost as much as you are.


Brain, you will NEVER be as much as I am...good OR bad.

Please give some specific example of how Jim has belittled or
demeaned YOU in a like manner...


Why? Shallow and immature people don't have to follow your orders.


What "order", Brain...?!?!

I SAID "please"...And to have fulfilled my request would have only
served to explain why YOU find it necessary to be demeaning and
rude...OR have proven why you were right and I was wrong.

Instead, you choose to be even MORE argumentitive and demeaning,
even further cementing your reputation.

Stebe, take a chill pill or whatever meds you forgot to take.


Uh huh....Just after you take your distemper shot, Brain, and
answer the question put to you. WHY do you find it necessary to be
rude and demeaning when no such epithets were addressed to you...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

PS: I will assume any answer to the question that attempts to
redirect or obfuscate the response to be "I am unwilling to directly
answer the question as I know the truth to be other than what I
stated". Simple enough?
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Old March 4th 04, 12:34 AM
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TAFKA Rev Jim, I'll explain it to you. SA has two existing coded HF
licenses. ITU says you can drop code, so they come out with a third
coded license. Bizarre.

Question, Brain...


Brain?

I have never seen Jim Miccolis refer to you as anything but
"Brian"...


How is it that you misspell my name in one fragment sentence, and
spell it correctly in another?


Because, BRAIN, it's not about how I address YOU...


I say it is. Until you behave yourself, its TAFKARJ!!!

It's about
why do YOU address Jim Miccolis with belittling endearments when
HE has never addressed YOU as anything except your proper name?


Tuff. I'm holding TAFKARJ metaphorically hostage until you straighten
your insane a$$ out. My regrets to Jim. I'll send out for
Schlottskey's deli.

That scumbag you run with likes to do that. Jim has never
refered to him as anything but "Len", yet "Len" finds countless ways
to belittle him.


That would be between the scumbag that I run with and TAFKARJ.

Do you often get involved with other people's issues?

Lennie does that because he cannot "argue" or "debate" Jim
otherwise.


He can. He has. And to a reasonable person, effectively. But
TAFKARJ remains in another world. A Ham in a Bubble.

He has to make Jim appear less-than-adequate in order to
promote himself. The weak minded and the foolish HAVE to do
that...It's a defense mechanism.


Perhaps. But TAFKARJ has made himself less-than-adequate by altering
posts. It is a cross that he must bear (Mel, forgive me).

Are YOU that weak minded and foolish?


Don't know.

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most weak-minded and foolish,
how high would you rate me?

He did the same thing with me when he launched into allegations
of being a "jack booted thug", "Nazi", "elitist", "Dill Sergeant", etc
etc etc, when I had not so addressed him. He is treated and addressed
in the same tone and with the same viciousness as he unleashed.


Ahem. I hate to be the one to break it to you, Steve, but you are
just a wee little bit over the top. Ask ANYone!

Is that how you feel? Do YOU need to belittle Jim in order
to effectively express yourself when discussing things with/about him?


Do you need to belittle me in order to express yourself?

Rhetorical question. I already know the answer.

And, no, I don't need to belittle TAFKARJ. Have I done so?

Please do not humiliate yourself by trying to misdirect this
question by asking ME about how I address Lennie...I've already
answered that.


See above. Why do you need to try to belittle ME?

Stay focused...you were asked a direct, specific question.


Which was?

You CAN answer direct, specific questions, can't you?


If I can recall them.

So WHY do YOU inisist on following the insulting and demeaning
example of a known pathological liar and antagonist in engaging in any
interaction with him...?!?!


Stebe, you misunderstand (what's new?).

I am the ONE who has tagged N2EY with the title "TAFKA Rev. Jim" after
his dishonesty in altering Kim's posts. He previously put forth the
image of being as pure as the driven snow. But after that little
stunt, he can no longer be referred to as Reverend Jim. So, "formerly
known as" sounded good to me.

You got a problem with it?


I have a problem with you lying.


I have a problem with your lies, and your insane behavior.

I have a problem with you following in the footsteps of a person
who is a known pathological liar and antagonist. It's embarrassing to
see a contemporary Veteran and Amateur licensee resorting to Lennie's
tactics.


Len is also a Veteran and a Radioman.

As for what "sounded good to (you)"...My question STILL
remains...Did Jim refer to you by any name, title or endearment OTHER
than "Brian"...?!?!


No. He no longer refers to me at all. He keeps tripping over his own
tie, and won't acknowledge or explain his most recent irrational
policy positions WRT amateur radio.

If not, why do YOU find it necessary to do so...?!?!


Jim has tainted himself by altering posts. I can no longer revere
him, thusly, he is no longer Reverend.

Are you, after all, as shallow and immature as I thought you
really are?


No. Perhaps even more so. Perhaps almost as much as you are.


Brain, you will NEVER be as much as I am...good OR bad.


True. You're manic. Go see the definition.

Please give some specific example of how Jim has belittled or
demeaned YOU in a like manner...


Why? Shallow and immature people don't have to follow your orders.


What "order", Brain...?!?!

I SAID "please"...And to have fulfilled my request would have only
served to explain why YOU find it necessary to be demeaning and
rude...OR have proven why you were right and I was wrong.

Instead, you choose to be even MORE argumentitive and demeaning,
even further cementing your reputation.


Jim has been found guilty of altering posts.

Stebe, take a chill pill or whatever meds you forgot to take.


Uh huh....Just after you take your distemper shot, Brain, and
answer the question put to you. WHY do you find it necessary to be
rude and demeaning when no such epithets were addressed to you...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

PS: I will assume any answer to the question that attempts to
redirect or obfuscate the response to be "I am unwilling to directly
answer the question as I know the truth to be other than what I
stated". Simple enough?


See above. Questions answered. Now what?
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Old March 5th 04, 03:01 PM
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Because, BRAIN, it's not about how I address YOU...


I say it is. Until you behave yourself, its TAFKARJ!!!


Then I'd say you've pretty well proven that I am right about your
general lack of character.

About what I'd expect from someone who expresses public
admiration for a known liar and antagonist.

It's about
why do YOU address Jim Miccolis with belittling endearments when
HE has never addressed YOU as anything except your proper name?


Tuff. I'm holding TAFKARJ metaphorically hostage until you straighten
your insane a$$ out. My regrets to Jim. I'll send out for
Schlottskey's deli.


Still haven't answered the question, which in itself I'd say puts
you in the "coward" category, but the INSISTENCE on being insulting
where no insult was offered puts you solidly in the "scumbag"
category, too.

Do you often get involved with other people's issues?


Only when I see creepy scumbags acting like bullies towards
people who have treated them with nothing but respect.

You'd be that bully, ergo you'd be that scumbag.

I am sure you family line is proud of you.

He can. He has. And to a reasonable person, effectively. But
TAFKARJ remains in another world. A Ham in a Bubble.


So far everything he's said, other than that that he clearly
states as opinion, is true.

You and Lennie the Liar do not have that reputation.

Are YOU that weak minded and foolish?


Don't know.


I do....

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most weak-minded and foolish,
how high would you rate me?


Ummmm.... a solid 8.5. You ahve the potential to be redeemed,
but I doubt it. You occassionally manage to express a vaild opinion
without being insulting or dememaning, but your inability to
substantiate your claims leaves you wanting pretty badly.

He did the same thing with me when he launched into allegations
of being a "jack booted thug", "Nazi", "elitist", "Dill Sergeant", etc
etc etc, when I had not so addressed him. He is treated and addressed
in the same tone and with the same viciousness as he unleashed.


Ahem. I hate to be the one to break it to you, Steve, but you are
just a wee little bit over the top. Ask ANYone!


Perhaps I am...But I refuse to be talked down to, pushed, or
otherwise be bullied by cowards and creeps like you and Lennie.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings. Perhaps asking yourself how
you came to this juncture would be warranted?

Is that how you feel? Do YOU need to belittle Jim in order
to effectively express yourself when discussing things with/about him?


Do you need to belittle me in order to express yourself?


Nope. You belittle yourself just fine. But since you deem it
necessary to address people the way you do, I just assume that this is
the manner in which you find it most effective to communicate.

Rhetorical question. I already know the answer.


No you don't. You ASSUME that you know an answer.

And, no, I don't need to belittle TAFKARJ. Have I done so?


THAT was a rhetorical question, Brain.

Please do not humiliate yourself by trying to misdirect this
question by asking ME about how I address Lennie...I've already
answered that.


See above. Why do you need to try to belittle ME?


Because it seems to be the form of communication that you
understand.

Stay focused...you were asked a direct, specific question.


Which was?


Which was obviously not important enough for you to answer like a
man.

You CAN answer direct, specific questions, can't you?


If I can recall them.


Obviously you ARE Gene Pool Deficient...

Cut and snip to...

PS: I will assume any answer to the question that attempts to
redirect or obfuscate the response to be "I am unwilling to directly
answer the question as I know the truth to be other than what I
stated". Simple enough?


See above. Questions answered. Now what?


No, they weren't...but I am sure that you think that you danced
your way around the point.

THE POINT is that Brian Burke is not a person of reputable
character. Not that we'd expect anything less from a person who
publically expresses admiration for a known pathological liar and
antagonist.

Thanks, Brain...You DO make this easy...You have now admitted to
publically lying...not that "we" didn't already know that.

Steve, K4YZ
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Old March 5th 04, 11:23 PM
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Because, BRAIN, it's not about how I address YOU...


I say it is. Until you behave yourself, its TAFKARJ!!!


Then I'd say you've pretty well proven that I am right about your
general lack of character.

About what I'd expect from someone who expresses public
admiration for a known liar and antagonist.

It's about
why do YOU address Jim Miccolis with belittling endearments when
HE has never addressed YOU as anything except your proper name?


Tuff. I'm holding TAFKARJ metaphorically hostage until you straighten
your insane a$$ out. My regrets to Jim. I'll send out for
Schlottskey's deli.


Still haven't answered the question, which in itself I'd say puts
you in the "coward" category, but the INSISTENCE on being insulting
where no insult was offered puts you solidly in the "scumbag"
category, too.

Do you often get involved with other people's issues?


Only when I see creepy scumbags acting like bullies towards
people who have treated them with nothing but respect.

You'd be that bully, ergo you'd be that scumbag.

I am sure you family line is proud of you.

He can. He has. And to a reasonable person, effectively. But
TAFKARJ remains in another world. A Ham in a Bubble.


So far everything he's said, other than that that he clearly
states as opinion, is true.

You and Lennie the Liar do not have that reputation.

Are YOU that weak minded and foolish?


Don't know.


I do....

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most weak-minded and foolish,
how high would you rate me?


Ummmm.... a solid 8.5. You ahve the potential to be redeemed,
but I doubt it. You occassionally manage to express a vaild opinion
without being insulting or dememaning, but your inability to
substantiate your claims leaves you wanting pretty badly.

He did the same thing with me when he launched into allegations
of being a "jack booted thug", "Nazi", "elitist", "Dill Sergeant", etc
etc etc, when I had not so addressed him. He is treated and addressed
in the same tone and with the same viciousness as he unleashed.


Ahem. I hate to be the one to break it to you, Steve, but you are
just a wee little bit over the top. Ask ANYone!


Perhaps I am...But I refuse to be talked down to, pushed, or
otherwise be bullied by cowards and creeps like you and Lennie.

Sorry if that hurts your feelings. Perhaps asking yourself how
you came to this juncture would be warranted?

Is that how you feel? Do YOU need to belittle Jim in order
to effectively express yourself when discussing things with/about him?


Do you need to belittle me in order to express yourself?


Nope. You belittle yourself just fine. But since you deem it
necessary to address people the way you do, I just assume that this is
the manner in which you find it most effective to communicate.

Rhetorical question. I already know the answer.


No you don't. You ASSUME that you know an answer.

And, no, I don't need to belittle TAFKARJ. Have I done so?


THAT was a rhetorical question, Brain.

Please do not humiliate yourself by trying to misdirect this
question by asking ME about how I address Lennie...I've already
answered that.


See above. Why do you need to try to belittle ME?


Because it seems to be the form of communication that you
understand.

Stay focused...you were asked a direct, specific question.


Which was?


Which was obviously not important enough for you to answer like a
man.

You CAN answer direct, specific questions, can't you?


If I can recall them.


Obviously you ARE Gene Pool Deficient...

Cut and snip to...

PS: I will assume any answer to the question that attempts to
redirect or obfuscate the response to be "I am unwilling to directly
answer the question as I know the truth to be other than what I
stated". Simple enough?


See above. Questions answered. Now what?


No, they weren't...but I am sure that you think that you danced
your way around the point.

THE POINT is that Brian Burke is not a person of reputable
character. Not that we'd expect anything less from a person who
publically expresses admiration for a known pathological liar and
antagonist.

Thanks, Brain...You DO make this easy...You have now admitted to
publically lying...not that "we" didn't already know that.

Steve, K4YZ



Steve, in your own eyes-rolled-back kind of way, I'm sure you really
believe what you say.

But I don't.

I think you're nuts.
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THE POINT is that Brian Burke is not a person of reputable
character. Not that we'd expect anything less from a person who
publically expresses admiration for a known pathological liar and
antagonist.

Thanks, Brain...You DO make this easy...You have now admitted to
publically lying...not that "we" didn't already know that.


Steve, in your own eyes-rolled-back kind of way, I'm sure you really
believe what you say.


Of course I do, Brain. Why would a rational person say something
he DIDN'T believe?

But I don't.


Of course you don't, Brain. Probably due tot he fact that it's
your failure to understand why YOUR behaviour is the one in question
here...

YOU claim to have operated as "DX" from an area of the world in
which you obviously had no permission to operate from. I say
"obviously" since you cannot produce a single bit of evidence that you
DID have permission.

When asked to provide some documentary evidence of this
operation, you cannot provide a single QSL card, a single callsign of
somone who can verify they "worked" you, etc.

You then follow up THAT act by publically expressing admiration
and claiming as your "mentor" a person who ahs been clearly and
repeatedly documented as intentionally untruthful and openly spiteful
of the very radio service of which you are a licensee.

Several folks here have expressed disdain of my poking at you and
the Putzy one...Not because you don't deserve it, but because they
believe if you are "left alone", you'll go away.

I did that for a while and you didn't...Neither did your lying
friend.

I for one believe when you try to placate bullies and liars, you
only serve to embolden them.

Just as it is your right to lie and misrepresent, it's my right
to challenge and expose your lies and misrepresentations. You and
Lennie certainly give me plenty of opportunites to address them.

I think you're nuts.


If thinking that makes you feel warm and fuzzy and let's you
sleep at night, Brain, you go right on ahead and think it. Consider
it yours.

Steve, K4YZ


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Because, BRAIN, it's not about how I address YOU...It's about
why do YOU address Jim Miccolis with belittling endearments when
HE has never addressed YOU as anything except your proper name?


Steve,

Isn't the reason obvious?

That scumbag you run with likes to do that. Jim has never
refered to him as anything but "Len", yet "Len" finds countless ways
to belittle him.


I have also used the term "Mr. Anderson".

He did the same thing with me when he launched into allegations
of being a "jack booted thug", "Nazi", "elitist", "Dill Sergeant", etc
etc etc, when I had not so addressed him.


Don't forget "nursie" and being addressed by the wrong gender.

He is treated and addressed
in the same tone and with the same viciousness as he unleashed.


And you have provided the exact response desired.

By responding in kind, you have lowered yourself to the level of the
very people you oppose, and (in their minds) given them the OK to
continue to behave that way.

I have a problem with you lying.


Do you think that such lies will ever be admitted? For example, I have
been
accused of altering Kim's posts - which is not what happened at all.

I have a problem with you following in the footsteps of a person
who is a known pathological liar and antagonist. It's embarrassing to
see a contemporary Veteran and Amateur licensee resorting to Lennie's
tactics.


And by responding in kind......

Instead, you choose to be even MORE argumentitive and demeaning,
even further cementing your reputation.


Then why bother, Steve? Haven't you seen enough examples to know what
the
responses will be? Don't you already know that your questions will not
be answered?

There's a reason for killfiles and filters. I find my
rrap experience to be much better for the use of them.

You've got kids, Steve. Haven't you had the situation where a kid
argues with you about bedtime - at bedtime? By arguing with the kid,
bedtime effectively becomes later because the kid isn't in bed when
s/he's arguing. But if you refuse to argue, you get less of a hassle.

Dee's (or was it Dave's?) metaphor of the landfill and the fence is
very appropriate.

"[their] hobby is wasting time. Your time."

Free speech doesn't mean you have to listen to what everyone says.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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