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Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
N2EY wrote: (Len Over 21) wrote in message ... In article , Alun writes: Then outside the disaster arena, there's all the marathons, walk-a-thons, bike-a-thons and myriad other public events for which hams routinely provide communications. Our club supports 4 or 5 of these per year. Those are good practice. By the way, the Los Angeles Marathon was a success on Sunday, record turn-out, everything run just fine. What was your finishing time, Len? How were course conditions? It can be done very well without any amateur radio help How do you know? Ever work at a race? I have, in a variety of roles. LA and other major marathons have been using amateur radio operators for race communications for years. A local bike race decided to try using cell phones as an experiment last year. The hams were along, with the knowledge that we might be "redundant in the future. They found out: Every person had to be called separately. When a message had to go to the whole group, everyone had to be called. Those who were out of coverage range did not get the messages. Coverage over the entire course was pretty bad. Using cell phones was an immediate and complete failure. they realized this on the first call that had to go to everyone. They couldn't figure all that out ahead of time? Sounds to me like the hams were smart enough to simply let them try it and see the problems first-hand. Those same problems surfaced in groups searching for wreckage from the space shuttle disaster last year. Of course cell phones *do* have uses in those situations. Where one specific person needs to talk to another specific person, and both are in the coverage area, they're perfect. Cell phones work for some things, but the idea that they can replace radio operators is best advanced by those that don't really know how that particular job is done. You mean like folks who comment on marathons without ever having been involved in one other than as a spectator? Or like folks who comment on amateur radio without ever having been involved other than as a spectator? http://www.lamarathon.com/2004/volunteers.php Some hams and ham equipment spotted in the pix. Of course. http://www.doitsports.com/volunteer/info.tcl?job_id=488 (sign up for radio operators - only licensed hams need apply) Really? I thunk all you needed was a cell phone and the ability to say "can you hear me now?....how about now? 8^) That's what some "professionals" would have us believe... http://www.cert-la.com/ (scroll down a bit to where it says "ham radio operators wanted") Do you think maybe they put that in as an affirmative action sort of thing? Maybe they just wanted to get the Hams to shut their yap's? ;^) Naw, it's simpler than that. Besides their considerable skills and experience, ham volunteers at events like the LA Marathon provide their own equipment and usually their own transportation and other support. Try hiring 200 "communications professionals" for a day just to supply radio communications and see what happens to the race entry fee. (LA says 200 hams, NYC marathon says 400, but of course NYC is a lot bigger race). but the ARRL copy scribblers would have a cow about that. :-) "ARRL copy scribblers"? Who are they? You mean folks who write the facts about what actually happened? http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2002/02/28/1/?nc=1 Nice write up about the 2002 LA Marathon Maybe you didn't see the hams, so you just assume they are not there and play no role. That's simply Not True. Capitalization noted, Jim. Do some people think that the hams are suppose to be in the lead vehicle or leading the parade? Looks like it. But there are some folks who would deny the participation and contributions of hams no matter what they did. Heck they are supposed to be behind the scenes. Go figure. Of course. It's about the race! 73 de Jim, N2EY Philadelphia Independence Marathon, 1982 and 1983. |
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