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#332
May 28th 04, 02:28 AM
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Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/27/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Nursie hasn't produced even ONE photo of his described duty with the 3rd Marine Division. I've never described any duty with 3rdMARDIV. I was never a part of 3rdMARDIV. Never said I was. 3rd Marine Division is based on Okinawa. You said you were there. OK, so we've established you were never on Okinawa. Lennie....I was ALWAYS an airwinger in the USMC. Now...GO BACK and do some MORE websurfing and see if your immense websurfing talents can figure out how I was on Okinawa and NOT a part of 3rd MARDIV. Sheeeeeesh....what an idiot. Nursie's self-proclaimed "career" is NOT the SUBJECT. But you MADE it the "SUBJECT", Lennie, right up until THIS post, in which it's obvious that you once again found oput that you DON'T have all the facts and you DON'T know what you are talking about. Nice try to shift the focus off of your faux pas. Caught again. It is irrelevant since none of it involved radio communications. You're right, Lennie...It's NOT "relevant"...But YOU brought it up and YOU tried to use it against me. You failed. But what you got was your tail stepped on...And YOU did the stepping. That HAD to hurt. Putz. Steve, K4YZ |
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#333
May 28th 04, 02:32 AM
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Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/27/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/25/2004 6:20 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: But only to those capable of rational thought. Fantasy fliers with too much P-51 time in their frequency flyer program aren't capable of rational thought. P-51's are great, but not my idea of a "fantasy flight". REAL private pilots are acquainted with the term "P-51 time." That's a nastyphrase of those private pilots who LIE in their log-books by writing in more time than they really have...using a Parker 51 pen. Well, in as much as I know what would happen to me if it was determined that I had falsified my logbook, I've never made an entry that wasn't preceeded by an actual flight or logable training with a CFI or CGI. Riiiiiight...just like you did all that "SSB" in VHF and UHF ham bands. Lennie...WHAT is the prefered voice mode for most of the satellites? Nursie, satellites don't speak...they use TELEMETRY to "tell" the ground their status. Once again the "radio professional" tries to worm his way out of the corner that he painted himself into... And what mode is prevelent below 144.400? Especially between 144.100 and 144.250? No experience = flawed opinions. TRY to stay focussed on the SUBJECT. Lennie...YOU are the one who said it was necessary to learn Morse Code in order to use SSB. You were, AGAIN, porven wrong. Not that it was hard to do.... MARS is a MILITARY system. No Amateur Radio = No MARS. It really is THAT simple. Steve, K4YZ |
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#334
May 28th 04, 02:40 AM
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Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William) Date: 5/27/2004 7:31 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Robert asks you a question about Amateurs operating on military frequencies for military purposes and YOU respond with some assinine statement about "most municipal radio operators" wearing police uniforms. So? "So?", indeed. That in ITSELF is completely foolish since police departments are only a fractional part of most municipal payrolls. There's the Fire Department, EMS, Department of Sanitation, the utilities departments, roads and highways, etc...all of whom hav SOME sort of radio service that they use. Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops? Does it make any difference to you that youw ere AGAIN shown to have been wrong? Does it make any difference to you that it's an easy thing to do? Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops? "Sorry Hans, Dispatcher IS MARS." Hi hi! "Hi hi" indeed, Brain. I am sure you hear quite a bit of laughter. Remember, Brain, YOU are the one who set the "precedent" that if there is even ONE example to the contrary, you have been proven WRONG. I kindly direct you to the word, "most" in my response. I see that. That's what's wrong, PuppetBoy. No. It is not. It is not all inclusive, such as your use of the word "IS." OK, Brain. If you insist. The police department does NOT constitute the "most" of any municipal pool of employees. Even in the smallest towns that I have lived in the police force represented, at the MOST, 1/4th of the municipal payroll. Oh, I see what you're desperately trying to do. You're including all of the non-radio users in your computation in an attempt to find a leg to stand on. Grasping, grasping; and still sliding downward. Brain....YOU said that "most" MUNICIPAL radio operators wore police uniforms. It's not me doing the grasping. Now...Try again, PuppetBoy. Your mentor is watching. YOU said that MOST "municipal radio operators (wore) police uniforms". That is wrong. Even in YOUR community. No, it isn't. We're kind of heavy on LE here. Yes, It it. But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to know your community is "kind of heavy on LE"...considering who lives there. Would you say that "most" means, "is" or "equal to?" Now...HOW did you go from discussing operating on military frequencies to "municipal radio operators"...?!?! How did you go from MARS to Amateur Radio? MARS is dependent upon Amateur Radio. No Amatuer Radio = No MARS. Sure they are. They use up all them amateur frequencies and rely upon Riley for enforcement. Subject to Part 97. Hi hi! "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Brian..TRY and get ONE thing right today, OK...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
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#335
May 28th 04, 07:41 AM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/27/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/25/2004 6:20 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: But only to those capable of rational thought. Fantasy fliers with too much P-51 time in their frequency flyer program aren't capable of rational thought. P-51's are great, but not my idea of a "fantasy flight". REAL private pilots are acquainted with the term "P-51 time." That's a nastyphrase of those private pilots who LIE in their log-books by writing in more time than they really have...using a Parker 51 pen. Well, in as much as I know what would happen to me if it was determined that I had falsified my logbook, I've never made an entry that wasn't preceeded by an actual flight or logable training with a CFI or CGI. Riiiiiight...just like you did all that "SSB" in VHF and UHF ham bands. Lennie...WHAT is the prefered voice mode for most of the satellites? Nursie, satellites don't speak...they use TELEMETRY to "tell" the ground their status. Once again the "radio professional" tries to worm his way out of the corner that he painted himself into... The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio. It is not. As per DoD Directive 4650.2 (26 Jan 98) - The "M" in MARS = MILITARY The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE MARS is NOT amateur radio. That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications Instruction NTP8 (C). And what mode is prevelent below 144.400? Especially between 144.100 and 144.250? No experience = flawed opinions. TRY to stay focussed on the SUBJECT. Lennie...YOU are the one who said it was necessary to learn Morse Code in order to use SSB. You were, AGAIN, porven wrong. Not that it was hard to do.... MARS is a MILITARY system. No Amateur Radio = No MARS. The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio. It is not. As per DoD Directive 4650.2 (26 Jan 98) - The "M" in MARS = MILITARY The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE MARS is NOT amateur radio. That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications Instruction NTP8 (C). MARS is NOT amateur radio. LHA / WMD |
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#336
May 28th 04, 07:41 AM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/27/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Nursie hasn't produced even ONE photo of his described duty with the 3rd Marine Division. I've never described any duty with 3rdMARDIV. I was never a part of 3rdMARDIV. Never said I was. 3rd Marine Division is based on Okinawa. You said you were there. OK, so we've established you were never on Okinawa. Lennie....I was ALWAYS an airwinger in the USMC. Now...GO BACK and do some MORE websurfing and see if your immense websurfing talents can figure out how I was on Okinawa and NOT a part of 3rd MARDIV. Sheeeeeesh....what an idiot. Nursie's self-proclaimed "career" is NOT the SUBJECT. But you MADE it the "SUBJECT", Lennie, right up until THIS post, in which it's obvious that you once again found oput that you DON'T have all the facts and you DON'T know what you are talking about. Nice try to shift the focus off of your faux pas. The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio. It is not. As per DoD Directive 4650.2 (26 Jan 98) - The "M" in MARS = MILITARY The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE MARS is NOT amateur radio. That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications Instruction NTP8 (C). Caught again. The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio. It is not. As per DoD Directive 4650.2 (26 Jan 98) - The "M" in MARS = MILITARY The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE MARS is NOT amateur radio. That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications Instruction NTP8 (C). You failed. The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio. It is not. As per DoD Directive 4650.2 (26 Jan 98) - The "M" in MARS = MILITARY The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE MARS is NOT amateur radio. That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications Instruction NTP8 (C). But what you got was your tail stepped on...And YOU did the stepping. That HAD to hurt. No "hurt." MARS is NOT amateur radio. MARS exists because the DoD says it does. The FCC does not cause MARS to exist. The ARRL does not cause MARS to exist. MARS is NOT amateur radio. LHA / WMD |
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#337
May 28th 04, 07:41 AM
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In article ,
(William) writes: (Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ... Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/27/2004 10:25 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (William) writes: Steve, Dave, Bruce, Larry, Kelly, and Dick represented the very worst in the ARS via their RRAP postings. They thought they meant well, for the good of all involved, but it eventually evolved into war crimes. Some people just don't know when to quit. Meanwhile, Jim is like the benevolent senior looking on as the thugs committed atrocities, but had "no opinion." Please don't judge the rest of us by Steve's actions or even his seven hostile actions (of self abuse). I don't. Good for you, Lennie. Minus the Amateur license, you're in the same pile. Steve, K4YZ Wow Len, I didn't know that you were involved in Seven Hostile Actions (of self abuse). Better extract yourself from that pile. I thought about putting that pile on my lawn to make the grass grow better. It didn't. A little test section just died off. :-( We will never hear the where or when of all those "hostile actions." They never happened...except on his Fantasy Island. He might not have a Tatoo either... LHA / WMD |
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#338
May 28th 04, 01:22 PM
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Steve Robeson K4CAP wrote:
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/25/2004 6:20 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: But only to those capable of rational thought. Fantasy fliers with too much P-51 time in their frequency flyer program aren't capable of rational thought. P-51's are great, but not my idea of a "fantasy flight". REAL private pilots are acquainted with the term "P-51 time." That's a nastyphrase of those private pilots who LIE in their log-books by writing in more time than they really have...using a Parker 51 pen. Well, in as much as I know what would happen to me if it was determined that I had falsified my logbook, I've never made an entry that wasn't preceeded by an actual flight or logable training with a CFI or CGI. Riiiiiight...just like you did all that "SSB" in VHF and UHF ham bands. Lennie...WHAT is the prefered voice mode for most of the satellites? And what mode is prevelent below 144.400? Especially between 144.100 and 144.250? No experience = flawed opinions. SSB is one of the modes we see on VHF and above. It's not used as often as say, FM, but used nonetheless. A fellow in our club put on a nice Powerpoint presentation about his satellite ops a couple months ago. On one of the slides, we listened to a recording of a SSB contact he had with another ham via satellite. There is plenty of 2 meter SSB also. I've listened to it at our mountaintop shack. - Mike KB3EIA - |
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#339
May 28th 04, 08:42 PM
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Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/28/2004 1:41 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/27/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio". From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time Message-id: In article , (Steve Robeson K4CAP) writes: Nursie hasn't produced even ONE photo of his described duty with the 3rd Marine Division. I've never described any duty with 3rdMARDIV. I was never a part of 3rdMARDIV. Never said I was. 3rd Marine Division is based on Okinawa. You said you were there. OK, so we've established you were never on Okinawa. Lennie....I was ALWAYS an airwinger in the USMC. Now...GO BACK and do some MORE websurfing and see if your immense websurfing talents can figure out how I was on Okinawa and NOT a part of 3rd MARDIV. Sheeeeeesh....what an idiot. Nursie's self-proclaimed "career" is NOT the SUBJECT. But you MADE it the "SUBJECT", Lennie, right up until THIS post, in which it's obvious that you once again found oput that you DON'T have all the facts and you DON'T know what you are talking about. Nice try to shift the focus off of your faux pas. The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio. Uh huh... Got Willie caught under the rocking chair again, and it hurt. No Amateur Radio = No MARS. Your strict dependence upon published directives would have made you very popular in the Third Reich, Lennie, but it's no good here. Now...YOU brought up my USMC service and made insinuating comments vis-a-vis same. I gave you MORE than enough information on now to verify that which YOU claim is UNverified. So NOW you're ducking out from acknowedging the FACTS. Putz, liar AND coward ! ! ! ! Steve, K4YZ |
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#340
May 28th 04, 08:44 PM
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Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21) Date: 5/28/2004 1:41 AM Central Standard Time Message-id: MARS is NOT amateur radio. That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications Instruction NTP8 (C). MARS is NOT amateur radio. Amateur Radio is the entity with which the MILITARY is AFFILIATED with... No Amateur Radio = No MARS. It really is THAT simple. Steve, K4YZ |
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