Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/27/2004 7:31 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

Robert asks you a question about Amateurs operating on military
frequencies for military purposes and YOU respond with some assinine
statement
about "most municipal radio operators" wearing police uniforms.

So?

"So?", indeed.

That in ITSELF is completely foolish since police departments are
only
a
fractional part of most municipal payrolls. There's the Fire
Department,
EMS,
Department of Sanitation, the utilities departments, roads and highways,
etc...all of whom hav SOME sort of radio service that they use.

Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops?

Does it make any difference to you that youw ere AGAIN shown to have
been
wrong?

Does it make any difference to you that it's an easy thing to do?

Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops?

"Sorry Hans, Dispatcher IS MARS."

Hi hi!

"Hi hi" indeed, Brain.

I am sure you hear quite a bit of laughter.

Remember, Brain, YOU are the one who set the "precedent" that if
there
is
even ONE example to the contrary, you have been proven WRONG.

I kindly direct you to the word, "most" in my response.

I see that.

That's what's wrong, PuppetBoy.

No. It is not. It is not all inclusive, such as your use of the word
"IS."

OK, Brain.

If you insist.

The police department does NOT constitute the "most" of any municipal
pool
of employees. Even in the smallest towns that I have lived in the police
force
represented, at the MOST, 1/4th of the municipal payroll.

Oh, I see what you're desperately trying to do.

You're including all of the non-radio users in your computation in an
attempt to find a leg to stand on.

Grasping, grasping; and still sliding downward.

Brain....YOU said that "most" MUNICIPAL radio operators wore police
uniforms.

It's not me doing the grasping.

Now...Try again, PuppetBoy. Your mentor is watching.

YOU said that MOST "municipal radio operators (wore) police uniforms".

That is wrong. Even in YOUR community.

No, it isn't. We're kind of heavy on LE here.

Yes, It it.

But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to know your community is "kind
of heavy on LE"...considering who lives there.

Would you say that "most" means, "is" or "equal to?"

Now...HOW did you go from discussing operating on military
frequencies
to
"municipal radio operators"...?!?!

How did you go from MARS to Amateur Radio?

MARS is dependent upon Amateur Radio. No Amatuer Radio = No MARS.

Sure they are. They use up all them amateur frequencies and rely upon
Riley for enforcement. Subject to Part 97. Hi hi!

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

Brian..TRY and get ONE thing right today, OK...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/27/2004 7:31 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

Robert asks you a question about Amateurs operating on military
frequencies for military purposes and YOU respond with some assinine
statement
about "most municipal radio operators" wearing police uniforms.

So?

"So?", indeed.

That in ITSELF is completely foolish since police departments are
only
a
fractional part of most municipal payrolls. There's the Fire
Department,
EMS,
Department of Sanitation, the utilities departments, roads and highways,
etc...all of whom hav SOME sort of radio service that they use.

Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops?

Does it make any difference to you that youw ere AGAIN shown to have
been
wrong?

Does it make any difference to you that it's an easy thing to do?

Does it make them Policemen? Does it make them MARS Ops?

"Sorry Hans, Dispatcher IS MARS."

Hi hi!

"Hi hi" indeed, Brain.

I am sure you hear quite a bit of laughter.

I do.

Remember, Brain, YOU are the one who set the "precedent" that if
there
is
even ONE example to the contrary, you have been proven WRONG.

I kindly direct you to the word, "most" in my response.

I see that.

That's what's wrong, PuppetBoy.

No. It is not. It is not all inclusive, such as your use of the word
"IS."

OK, Brain.

If you insist.

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio," you keep insisting.

The police department does NOT constitute the "most" of any municipal
pool
of employees. Even in the smallest towns that I have lived in the police
force
represented, at the MOST, 1/4th of the municipal payroll.

Oh, I see what you're desperately trying to do.

You're including all of the non-radio users in your computation in an
attempt to find a leg to stand on.

Grasping, grasping; and still sliding downward.

Brain....YOU said that "most" MUNICIPAL radio operators wore police
uniforms.

It's not me doing the grasping.

Now...Try again, PuppetBoy. Your mentor is watching.

So what. I didn't take all of one group and say that it is equal to
another group, just because there may be a relationship. You did.

YOU said that MOST "municipal radio operators (wore) police uniforms".

That is wrong. Even in YOUR community.

No, it isn't. We're kind of heavy on LE here.

Yes, It it.

I like it that way. Keeps the creepy crawlies away.

But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to know your community is "kind
of heavy on LE"...considering who lives there.

People with good incomes.

Would you say that "most" means, "is" or "equal to?"

Now...HOW did you go from discussing operating on military
frequencies
to
"municipal radio operators"...?!?!

How did you go from MARS to Amateur Radio?

MARS is dependent upon Amateur Radio. No Amatuer Radio = No MARS.

Sure they are. They use up all them amateur frequencies and rely upon
Riley for enforcement. Subject to Part 97. Hi hi!

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

Brian..TRY and get ONE thing right today, OK...?!?!

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

Hi hi.

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/31/2004 5:40 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

"Hi hi" indeed, Brain.

I am sure you hear quite a bit of laughter.

I do.

No doubt.

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio," you keep insisting.

No, Brian...YOU keep insisting.

I said it metaphorically, and explained my rationale for it.

You have based a whole months worth of trolls on that, and have yet to
disporve any other assertion I have made.

Suvks to be you, PuppetBoy!

Brain....YOU said that "most" MUNICIPAL radio operators wore police
uniforms.

It's not me doing the grasping.

Now...Try again, PuppetBoy. Your mentor is watching.

So what. I didn't take all of one group and say that it is equal to
another group, just because there may be a relationship. You did.

"So what", indeed.

YOU said that "MOST" municipal "radio operators" wore police uniforms.

I (accurately) pointed out that that police force is only one segment of
municipal workers that use two-way radios, and do NOT comprise "most" of the
municipal work force.

Also, I did not make ANY analogy to municipal workers in this or any
other thread.

You did.

Now...try as you might, it's already archived that you did this. Now you
are trying to wiggle out of it.

STILL sucks to be you.

YOU said that MOST "municipal radio operators (wore) police
uniforms".

That is wrong. Even in YOUR community.

No, it isn't. We're kind of heavy on LE here.

Yes, It it.

I like it that way. Keeps the creepy crawlies away.

Obviously not. You're still there.

But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to know your community is
"kind
of heavy on LE"...considering who lives there.

People with good incomes.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....Now you base the character of your neighbors based upon
thier paychecks?

What a FREAKIN' SCUMBAG you are!

Geeeze-Loweeze, Burke! You sink just a bit lower EVERY TIME YOU POST!

Brian..TRY and get ONE thing right today, OK...?!?!

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

Hi hi.

Keep laughing, Burkie. It's the only thing funny about you. The rest is
just plain pitiful.

Steve, K4YZ

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/31/2004 5:40 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

"Hi hi" indeed, Brain.

I am sure you hear quite a bit of laughter.

I do.

No doubt.

We are all laughing at your constant refusal to admit your
statement ("MARS is amateur radio") was wrong. :-)

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio," you keep insisting.

No, Brian...YOU keep insisting.

The Department of Defense Directive 4650.2 defined it. AR 25-6,
AFI 33-106, NTP 8(C) of the three major military branches
regulated it. MARS is military.

I said it metaphorically, and explained my rationale for it.

"Metaphors be with you?" [are you now Luke Skywalker? :-) ]

["Use the phors, Luke, use the phors!" - Obi Wan Kenobi]

You have based a whole months worth of trolls on that, and have yet to
disporve any other assertion I have made.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie Luke keeps insisting he/she was right.

MARS is military. The DoD defined it.

Suvks to be you, PuppetBoy!

"Suvks?" How does one do that? :-)

Admit you are wrong, nursie.

Quit trying to put words in DoD documents that aren't there.



Now...try as you might, it's already archived that you did this. Now you
are trying to wiggle out of it.

The only one "trying to wiggle out" is nursie.

Nursie is not man enough to admit it he/she is wrong.

STILL sucks to be you.

Show us the military documents that define "MARS is amateur radio."

Show us the FCC documents that define "MARS is amateur radio."

You cannot because they don't exist. MARS is a MILITARY radio
service, has always been so since 1925.

You are a puppet of your own mixed-up imagination. Tsk, tsk.



What a FREAKIN' SCUMBAG you are!

Geeeze-Loweeze, Burke! You sink just a bit lower EVERY TIME YOU POST!

Personal insults don't make you "correct."

MARS is a military radio service. The DoD defines that.

Do you wish to personally insult the Department of Defense?


Keep laughing, Burkie. It's the only thing funny about you. The rest
is just plain pitiful.

What is pitiful in here is nursie's stubborn insistence that he/she is
"right" when the government has defined MARS as a military radio
service.

Nursie is WRONG.

Temper fry...

LHA / WMD

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/1/2004 4:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Nursie is WRONG.

I am sure you wish it were true, Lennie. repeating it over and over won't
make it so, however.

How's that N/MC MARS application coming? (I'd reconsider sending it since
you were wrong about that TOO, Your Putziness....)

Steve, K4YZ

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 6/1/2004 4:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Nursie is WRONG.

I am sure you wish it were true, Lennie. repeating it over and over
won't
make it so, however.

The Department of Defense "makes it so" with Directive 4650.2
effective 21 Nov 03.

DoD has final say in what MARS is.

MARS is a military radio service.

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

LHA / WMD

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/31/2004 5:40 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...

"Hi hi" indeed, Brain.

I am sure you hear quite a bit of laughter.

I do.

No doubt.

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio," you keep insisting.

No, Brian...YOU keep insisting.

I said it metaphorically, and explained my rationale for it.

Yet you have not retracted it. You continue to defend the
indefensible.

You have based a whole months worth of trolls on that, and have yet to
disporve any other assertion I have made.

Steve, I have "disporved" your assertions.

Suvks to be you, PuppetBoy!

Thanks for that little tidbit, Sven.

Brain....YOU said that "most" MUNICIPAL radio operators wore police
uniforms.

It's not me doing the grasping.

Now...Try again, PuppetBoy. Your mentor is watching.

So what. I didn't take all of one group and say that it is equal to
another group, just because there may be a relationship. You did.

"So what", indeed.

YOU said that "MOST" municipal "radio operators" wore police uniforms.

I (accurately) pointed out that that police force is only one segment of
municipal workers that use two-way radios, and do NOT comprise "most" of the
municipal work force.

Does that make them MARS members, too?

Also, I did not make ANY analogy to municipal workers in this or any
other thread.

You did.

You're catching on.

Now...try as you might, it's already archived that you did this. Now you
are trying to wiggle out of it.

STILL sucks to be you.

Don't you mean "Suvks?" It's archived in Google.

YOU said that MOST "municipal radio operators (wore) police
uniforms".

That is wrong. Even in YOUR community.

No, it isn't. We're kind of heavy on LE here.

Yes, It it.

I like it that way. Keeps the creepy crawlies away.

Obviously not. You're still there.

But you're not. And that's what matters.

But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to know your community is
"kind
of heavy on LE"...considering who lives there.

People with good incomes.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....Now you base the character of your neighbors based upon
thier paychecks?

Their paychecks.

What a FREAKIN' SCUMBAG you are!

Geeeze-Loweeze, Burke! You sink just a bit lower EVERY TIME YOU POST!

Welp, I'm not surrounded by people dipping into workman's comp or
other entitlement programs.

Brian..TRY and get ONE thing right today, OK...?!?!

"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

Hi hi.

Keep laughing, Burkie. It's the only thing funny about you. The rest is
just plain pitiful.

Steve, K4YZ

You're so defensive about your separation from the USMC.

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 6/1/2004 5:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I said it metaphorically, and explained my rationale for it.

Yet you have not retracted it. You continue to defend the
indefensible.

You have based a whole months worth of trolls on that, and have yet to
disporve any other assertion I have made.

Steve, I have "disporved" your assertions.

You have disproved nothing, Brain.

You have argued the litteral translation of what I said.

I have expounded and explained myself thouroughly. That you do not seem
to be able top accept anything other than a Kindergarten-level definition is
not my problem.

But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to know your community is
"kind
of heavy on LE"...considering who lives there.

People with good incomes.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....Now you base the character of your neighbors based
upon
thier paychecks?

Their paychecks.

How narrow-minded can you be?

What a FREAKIN' SCUMBAG you are!

Geeeze-Loweeze, Burke! You sink just a bit lower EVERY TIME YOU POST!

Welp, I'm not surrounded by people dipping into workman's comp or
other entitlement programs.

I'm not "dipping" into Workman's Comp either. Nor am I being disbursed
any funds from ANY "entitlement" program.

Care to try again?

You're so defensive about your separation from the USMC.

I don't know why you think this, Brain. All my paperwork says "Honorable"
on it.

Also, it seems the ONLY person who brings it up is Lennie the Loser.
Lennie, who often feigns disgust at any perceived sleight towards Veterans and
claims to "support and respect any Honorably seperated veteran regardless of
the nature of thier seperation."

However everytime I get His Scumminess backed into yet another corner with
his OWN words, he rolls this out, thinking it's some supermarket tabloid
headline announcing some great abuse of government funds.

If it is, then there's about 3 or more MILLION veterans who are "abusing"
the system.

Leonard H. Anderson is a scumbag, Brian. He decries as "patriotic
buffonery" anyone who dares to even remotely mention ANY "service" at ANY
level, yet he also signs many of his posts with an Army service number, the
type of which the Armed Forces hasn't used in almost forty years.

His verbosity and ability to wordsmith his posts does NOT make him
right...It just makes him LOUD.

He's an idiot...but YOU have voluntarily linked your fortunes to him,
which makes you even MORE laughable.

Kerplunk.

Steve, K4YZ

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 6/1/2004 5:51 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

I said it metaphorically, and explained my rationale for it.

Yet you have not retracted it. You continue to defend the
indefensible.

You have based a whole months worth of trolls on that, and have yet to
disporve any other assertion I have made.

Steve, I have "disporved" your assertions.

You have disproved nothing, Brain.

You have argued the litteral translation of what I said.

I have expounded and explained myself thouroughly. That you do not seem
to be able top accept anything other than a Kindergarten-level definition is
not my problem.

It is your problem as you've not retracted, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS
Amateur Radio."

But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to know your community is
"kind
of heavy on LE"...considering who lives there.

People with good incomes.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....Now you base the character of your neighbors based
upon
thier paychecks?

Their paychecks.

How narrow-minded can you be?

How narrow minded can you be?

What a FREAKIN' SCUMBAG you are!

Geeeze-Loweeze, Burke! You sink just a bit lower EVERY TIME YOU POST!

Welp, I'm not surrounded by people dipping into workman's comp or
other entitlement programs.

I'm not "dipping" into Workman's Comp either. Nor am I being disbursed
any funds from ANY "entitlement" program.

Care to try again?

Are you classified as disabled by the Veteran's Administration?

You're so defensive about your separation from the USMC.

I don't know why you think this, Brain. All my paperwork says "Honorable"
on it.

I think it because of your every reaction to anything that has to do
with your service.

Also, it seems the ONLY person who brings it up is Lennie the Loser.
Lennie, who often feigns disgust at any perceived sleight towards Veterans and
claims to "support and respect any Honorably seperated veteran regardless of
the nature of thier seperation."

Heil spoke of Veterans always having their hands out.

However everytime I get His Scumminess backed into yet another corner with
his OWN words, he rolls this out, thinking it's some supermarket tabloid
headline announcing some great abuse of government funds.

I've never read that in his posts.

If it is, then there's about 3 or more MILLION veterans who are "abusing"
the system.

If you say so.

William wrote:

Heil spoke of Veterans always having their hands out.

You made this claim a year or so back. You were asked for specifics.
You provided none. You seem to be playing fast and loose with the truth
of late, "William".

Dave K8MN