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Old May 28th 04, 07:41 AM
Len Over 21
 
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Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
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(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/27/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Nursie hasn't produced even ONE photo of his described duty with
the 3rd Marine Division.

I've never described any duty with 3rdMARDIV. I was never a part of
3rdMARDIV. Never said I was.

3rd Marine Division is based on Okinawa. You said you were there.

OK, so we've established you were never on Okinawa.

Lennie....I was ALWAYS an airwinger in the USMC.

Now...GO BACK and do some MORE websurfing and see if your immense
websurfing talents can figure out how I was on Okinawa and NOT a part of

3rd
MARDIV.

Sheeeeeesh....what an idiot.


Nursie's self-proclaimed "career" is NOT the SUBJECT.


But you MADE it the "SUBJECT", Lennie, right up until THIS post, in which
it's obvious that you once again found oput that you DON'T have all the facts
and you DON'T know what you are talking about.

Nice try to shift the focus off of your faux pas.


The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio.

It is not. As per DoD Directive 4650.2 (26 Jan 98) -

The "M" in MARS = MILITARY

The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications
Instruction NTP8 (C).

Caught again.


The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio.

It is not. As per DoD Directive 4650.2 (26 Jan 98) -

The "M" in MARS = MILITARY

The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications
Instruction NTP8 (C).


You failed.


The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio.

It is not. As per DoD Directive 4650.2 (26 Jan 98) -

The "M" in MARS = MILITARY

The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications
Instruction NTP8 (C).


But what you got was your tail stepped on...And YOU did the stepping.

That HAD to hurt.


No "hurt." MARS is NOT amateur radio.

MARS exists because the DoD says it does.

The FCC does not cause MARS to exist. The ARRL does not
cause MARS to exist.

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

LHA / WMD

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Old May 28th 04, 08:42 PM
Steve Robeson K4CAP
 
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Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 5/28/2004 1:41 AM Central Standard Time
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In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/27/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Nursie hasn't produced even ONE photo of his described duty with
the 3rd Marine Division.

I've never described any duty with 3rdMARDIV. I was never a part

of
3rdMARDIV. Never said I was.

3rd Marine Division is based on Okinawa. You said you were there.

OK, so we've established you were never on Okinawa.

Lennie....I was ALWAYS an airwinger in the USMC.

Now...GO BACK and do some MORE websurfing and see if your immense
websurfing talents can figure out how I was on Okinawa and NOT a part of

3rd
MARDIV.

Sheeeeeesh....what an idiot.

Nursie's self-proclaimed "career" is NOT the SUBJECT.


But you MADE it the "SUBJECT", Lennie, right up until THIS post, in

which
it's obvious that you once again found oput that you DON'T have all the

facts
and you DON'T know what you are talking about.

Nice try to shift the focus off of your faux pas.


The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio.


Uh huh...

Got Willie caught under the rocking chair again, and it hurt.

No Amateur Radio = No MARS.

Your strict dependence upon published directives would have made you very
popular in the Third Reich, Lennie, but it's no good here.

Now...YOU brought up my USMC service and made insinuating comments
vis-a-vis same. I gave you MORE than enough information on now to verify that
which YOU claim is UNverified.

So NOW you're ducking out from acknowedging the FACTS.

Putz, liar AND coward ! ! ! !

Steve, K4YZ







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Old May 28th 04, 09:58 PM
Len Over 21
 
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In article ,
(Nursie, off work and with too much caffeine) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/28/2004 1:41 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/27/2004 7:28 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/26/2004 2:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,

(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Nursie hasn't produced even ONE photo of his described duty with
the 3rd Marine Division.

I've never described any duty with 3rdMARDIV. I was never a part

of
3rdMARDIV. Never said I was.

3rd Marine Division is based on Okinawa. You said you were there.

OK, so we've established you were never on Okinawa.

Lennie....I was ALWAYS an airwinger in the USMC.

Now...GO BACK and do some MORE websurfing and see if your immense
websurfing talents can figure out how I was on Okinawa and NOT a part of
3rd
MARDIV.

Sheeeeeesh....what an idiot.

Nursie's self-proclaimed "career" is NOT the SUBJECT.

But you MADE it the "SUBJECT", Lennie, right up until THIS post, in

which
it's obvious that you once again found oput that you DON'T have all the

facts
and you DON'T know what you are talking about.

Nice try to shift the focus off of your faux pas.


The SUBJECT is the claim that "MARS is amateur radio.


Uh huh...


That's what the SUBJECT line is...

Got Willie caught under the rocking chair again, and it hurt.


Always a problem to the well-endowed...

No Amateur Radio = No MARS.

Your strict dependence upon published directives would have made you very
popular in the Third Reich, Lennie, but it's no good here.


Okay, so explain the 35 print pages required by Part 97, Title 47 C.F.R.

Nowhere in those printed - and very official - U.S. amateur radio
regulations
is MARS (Military Affiliate Radio System) defined by the FCC.

MARS isn't authorized to use amateur radio frequencies.

The "M" in MARS stands for MILITARY.

MARS exists through DoD Directive 4650.2 with particular military
service branch regulations AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN NTP8(C).

MARS nets and stations can communicate directly with other
MARS stations and with federal authorities using military radio
equipment and military radio personnel.

Without Directive 4650.2 there would be NO MARS.

MARS is NOT amateur radio.


Now...YOU brought up my USMC service and made insinuating comments
vis-a-vis same. I gave you MORE than enough information on now to verify that
which YOU claim is UNverified.


No. Tell us all about those "hostile action" incidents, the where
and when.

No one can "verify" things that don't exist. Outside of your
imagination, that is... :-)

So NOW you're ducking out from acknowedging the FACTS.


"Facts?" Fantasy facts?

Of course. If you imagined it, it HAPPENED! :-)


Putz, liar AND coward ! ! ! !


Tsk, tsk, tsk... still acting the schoolyard bully all the way to
your mid-life crisis...:-)

LHA / WMD


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Old May 29th 04, 06:07 AM
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In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From:
(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/28/2004 3:58 PM Central Standard Time
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MARS exists through DoD Directive 4650.2 with particular military
service branch regulations AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN NTP8(C).

MARS nets and stations can communicate directly with other
MARS stations and with federal authorities using military radio
equipment and military radio personnel.

Without Directive 4650.2 there would be NO MARS.

MARS is NOT amateur radio.


No Amateur Radio = No MARS.


MARS exists as a MILITARY radio service. It can continue to
do so on its own, without civilian volunteers.

The FCC doesn't define MARS, never has. MARS is MILITARY.

Now...YOU brought up my USMC service and made insinuating comments
vis-a-vis same. I gave you MORE than enough information on now to verify

that
which YOU claim is UNverified.


No. Tell us all about those "hostile action" incidents, the where
and when.

No one can "verify" things that don't exist. Outside of your
imagination, that is.


Uh uh, Lennie!

YOU said my very service in the USMC was bogus.


No. We really don't know what nursie did with any credence.

The "hostile action" brags have never ever been detailed as to
place and date.

Still waiting for you to substantiate THAT claim!


It's not up to me to "verify" YOUR bragging.

You made the "hostile action" claim. YOU reference it.

Putz, liar AND coward ! ! ! !


Tsk, tsk, tsk... still acting the schoolyard bully all the way to
your mid-life crisis.


It ain't bullying if it's true.


Okay, verify, by references and proof, those "hostile actions."

Your imagination doesn't count. [nature abhors a vacuum...]

You really can't verify what you did through any third-party
sources, can you?

All you do is demand others "call up the VA" or some other
bogus source, never supplying any factual data or any
names of associated parties who were also in those
"hostile actions."

All you can do in response is holler and swear at others,
typical bully behavior.

That doesn't work, doesn't stop anyone else from challenging
your brags.

Memorial Day is coming up. Try to remember the where and
when of those "hostile actions" and then state it in here.

Otherwise, retract that brag of "hostile actions." Memorial
Day is for REAL heroes, not the big-mouth bass jumping for
attention in this little pond.


You are a putz, you are a liar, and you ARE a coward.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. More hollering and swearing. Wipe off your
monitor, the saliva is running down the faceplate. What
will Mrs. Nursie think?

LHA / WMD


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Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 5/29/2004 12:07 AM Central Standard Time
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(Steve
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MARS exists as a MILITARY radio service. It can continue to
do so on its own, without civilian volunteers.


Oh...Really?

Lennie, how many MARSGRAMS have you ever delivered?

How many phonepatches have you conducted for AFLOAT units?

How many MARSGRAMS have you initiated?

I ask because I had the opportunity to handle a LOT of MARSGRAMS over the
years, and almost every one I sent wound up being delivered by a volunteer
member. I know this since most of the ones I ever sent usually generated a
reply message...And the initiating station was almost always an individual's
station.

Also, I had the opportunity to be on the AFLOAT end of the patches. Don't
suppose you'd care to guess who handled the Stateside end of the patches, would
you?

The FCC doesn't define MARS, never has. MARS is MILITARY.


I am still trying to figure out why you keep trying to reference the FCC
when I've never said WHAT the FCC's "definition" is.

Still waiting for you to substantiate THAT claim!


It's not up to me to "verify" YOUR bragging.

You made the "hostile action" claim. YOU reference it.


Who's talking about "hostile action", Lennie...?!?! YOU said that I never
served PERIOD. That was only a few days ago.

Afterall I WAS able to "substantiate" some of YOUR claims about your
"CV"...it didn't take much...Your windiness and brogaddacio led me to the
doorstep of people I knew and who could verify your claims.

It wasn't a pretty picture.

All you do is demand others "call up the VA" or some other
bogus source, never supplying any factual data or any
names of associated parties who were also in those
"hostile actions."


The VA is a bogus source for verifying past military service...?!?!

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! ! !

WHOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!

Memorial Day is coming up. Try to remember the where and
when of those "hostile actions" and then state it in here.

Otherwise, retract that brag of "hostile actions." Memorial
Day is for REAL heroes, not the big-mouth bass jumping for
attention in this little pond.


I do remember who that day is for, Lennie.

It's NOT for rear-area radio clerks who tried to embellish thier one-tour
Army hitch on the sacrifices of men who died three years before you were even
in Boot Camp.

Specifically one Leonard H. Anderson.

You are a putz, you are a liar, and you ARE a coward.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. More hollering and swearing. Wipe off your
monitor, the saliva is running down the faceplate. What
will Mrs. Nursie think?


Mrs Nursie would probably tolerate your charades even less than I.

Steve, K4YZ





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