Dave Heil wrote in
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Alun wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in news:409ABB0C.C1D993E8
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Alun wrote:

I'll grant that 5wpm is relatively easy, but still a lot of work

There's a gaping contradiction buried in there some place.

Not atall. Something doesn't have to be hard to take a long time to do.

Now you've added an additional element. We've gone from "easy" to "a
lot of work" to "long time to do". Something "easy" wouldn't seem to
require either a lot of work or a long time to do.

Why not? I don't see any contradiction. For example, bricklaying is easy,
but how long would it take you to build the Great Wall of China? In any
case, I only said relatively easy, by which I meant it is below the speed
at which you can no longer copy individual dits and dahs, which was a
barrier to a lot of people..


I have little sympathy for anyone who would claim that learning morse at
a speed of five words per minute is a lot of work or that it requires a
long time to learn.

Dave K8MN


That's the trouble with this whole debate. It isn't uniformly difficult for
different people.

Alun wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in
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Alun wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in news:409ABB0C.C1D993E8
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Alun wrote:


I'll grant that 5wpm is relatively easy, but still a lot of work

There's a gaping contradiction buried in there some place.



Not atall. Something doesn't have to be hard to take a long time to do.

Now you've added an additional element. We've gone from "easy" to "a
lot of work" to "long time to do". Something "easy" wouldn't seem to
require either a lot of work or a long time to do.


Why not? I don't see any contradiction. For example, bricklaying is easy,
but how long would it take you to build the Great Wall of China? In any
case, I only said relatively easy, by which I meant it is below the speed
at which you can no longer copy individual dits and dahs, which was a
barrier to a lot of people..


I have little sympathy for anyone who would claim that learning morse at
a speed of five words per minute is a lot of work or that it requires a
long time to learn.

Dave K8MN



That's the trouble with this whole debate. It isn't uniformly difficult for
different people.

Excellent point, Alun. Every once in a while, I have to remind the
folks that *do* find it easy that their experience is not everyone's.
It took me 6 months of every day practice to get to 5 wpm. And I flunked
the first element 1 test I took.

I am now getting close to 13 wpm, but it depends on how my ears are
behaving on any particular day. On good days I can do it, but if I'm
tired or stressed, I'm back to 5 wpm in a heartbeat.

This second effort has been another roughly three month effort - this
hasn't quite been every day though.

I'm neither lazy, stupid or unmotivated.

Interesting to think that under the old system, I would only just
possibly be a General, and yet under the new, I am an Extra.

Considering that my main interests are the digital modes for my
everyday hamming, I would probably not be anything at all, since I would
have been years learning.

- Mike KB3EIA -