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William May 31st 04 11:50 PM

Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
 
"Keyboard In The Noise" wrote in message news:Rk8uc.11367$oi5.4004@fed1read07...
FYI: A MARS and Veterans Communicators Reunion is in the making -- a
friend AC6V has posted it on his website.

MARS = Military Affiliate Radio System

http://ac6v.com/MARSREUNION.htm

Please don't e-mail me (I'm Anon) or AC6V

See web page for contacts and further info.



This might be a good place to bring up a discussion on "Sorry Hans,
"MARS IS Amateur Radio," thanks to Steve/K4YZ/K4CAP for
providing such interesting topics.

Steve Robeson K4CAP June 1st 04 08:15 AM

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From: (William)
Date: 5/31/2004 5:50 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


This might be a good place to bring up a discussion on "Sorry Hans,
"MARS IS Amateur Radio," thanks to Steve/K4YZ/K4CAP for
providing such interesting topics.


Hmmmmm....I just might go.

Sere you in Vegas, Brain?...Or do you have another Boy Scout camp-out that
weekend?

Steve, K4YZ

Len Over 21 June 1st 04 10:42 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 5/31/2004 5:50 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


This might be a good place to bring up a discussion on "Sorry Hans,
"MARS IS Amateur Radio," thanks to Steve/K4YZ/K4CAP for
providing such interesting topics.


Hmmmmm....I just might go.

Sere you in Vegas, Brain?...Or do you have another Boy Scout camp-out
that weekend?


MARS is a military radio service. Has always been so since 1925.

We will only see nursie "in Vegas" as a victim on CSI. :-)

[Autopsy report states "unknown causes, might have been due to
stubborn insistence of being correct when proved wrong...]

Gil Grissom will eventually determine stubborness as the cause
of death. No real mystery to viewers, but interesting lab gadgets
and procedures.

Temper fry...

LHA / WMD

William June 1st 04 11:43 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 5/31/2004 5:50 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


This might be a good place to bring up a discussion on "Sorry Hans,
"MARS IS Amateur Radio," thanks to Steve/K4YZ/K4CAP for
providing such interesting topics.


Hmmmmm....I just might go.


You ought to go. Be sure to wear your Civil Air Patrol uniform with
real rank on it.

Sere you in Vegas, Brain?


I hope not. I'd rather not cross paths with you. I don't think
you're mentally stable.

Or do you have another Boy Scout camp-out that
weekend?


I don't know what weekend the reunion is, so I don't know if I have a
Scout trip or not. But I did have an enjoyable Memorial Day weekend
camping with all of my sons, without the Scouts.

Do you realize that I was never in a comm career field? Do you know
that I resigned from the BST when I left Illinois, and have not
rejoined MARS at this new location?

What qualifications would I attend under?

Steve, K4YZ


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Steve Robeson, K4CAP June 7th 04 12:16 PM

(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 5/31/2004 5:50 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


This might be a good place to bring up a discussion on "Sorry Hans,
"MARS IS Amateur Radio," thanks to Steve/K4YZ/K4CAP for
providing such interesting topics.


Hmmmmm....I just might go.


You ought to go. Be sure to wear your Civil Air Patrol uniform with
real rank on it.

Sere you in Vegas, Brain?


I hope not. I'd rather not cross paths with you. I don't think
you're mentally stable.


Of course you don't.

Your "fear" is that I will be able to make an even bigger fool of
you in person that I do via this forum.

I imagine it wouldn't be that hard to do.

Or do you have another Boy Scout camp-out that
weekend?


I don't know what weekend the reunion is, so I don't know if I have a
Scout trip or not. But I did have an enjoyable Memorial Day weekend
camping with all of my sons, without the Scouts.


Congratulations.

Do you realize that I was never in a comm career field?


Your point is?

What part of "former members" did you have a problem with?

Do you know
that I resigned from the BST when I left Illinois, and have not
rejoined MARS at this new location?

What qualifications would I attend under?


What part of "former members" did you not understand?

Sheeeeesh.

Steve, K4YZ

William June 8th 04 01:53 AM

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message . com...
(William) wrote in message . com...
(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 5/31/2004 5:50 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


This might be a good place to bring up a discussion on "Sorry Hans,
"MARS IS Amateur Radio," thanks to Steve/K4YZ/K4CAP for
providing such interesting topics.

Hmmmmm....I just might go.


You ought to go. Be sure to wear your Civil Air Patrol uniform with
real rank on it.

Sere you in Vegas, Brain?


I hope not. I'd rather not cross paths with you. I don't think
you're mentally stable.


Of course you don't.

Your "fear" is that I will be able to make an even bigger fool of
you in person that I do via this forum.

Actually, No. I fear that you'll go postal and people will get hurt.

Or do you have another Boy Scout camp-out that
weekend?


I don't know what weekend the reunion is, so I don't know if I have a
Scout trip or not. But I did have an enjoyable Memorial Day weekend
camping with all of my sons, without the Scouts.


Congratulations.

Do you realize that I was never in a comm career field?


Your point is?

What part of "former members" did you have a problem with?

Do you know
that I resigned from the BST when I left Illinois, and have not
rejoined MARS at this new location?

What qualifications would I attend under?


What part of "former members" did you not understand?

Sheeeeesh.

Steve, K4YZ


So you want me to travel across the country because I used to be a BST
volunteer at SAFB?

Sheeeeeeesh!

Len Over 21 June 8th 04 03:25 AM

In article ,
(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) writes:

(William) wrote in message
.com...
(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 5/31/2004 5:50 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


This might be a good place to bring up a discussion on "Sorry Hans,
"MARS IS Amateur Radio," thanks to Steve/K4YZ/K4CAP for
providing such interesting topics.

Hmmmmm....I just might go.


You ought to go. Be sure to wear your Civil Air Patrol uniform with
real rank on it.

Sere you in Vegas, Brain?


I hope not. I'd rather not cross paths with you. I don't think
you're mentally stable.


Of course you don't.

Your "fear" is that I will be able to make an even bigger fool of
you in person that I do via this forum.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Nursie's obsessional psychosis is advancing.

I imagine it wouldn't be that hard to do.


Fantasy Island imagination is coloring his reality perception.

Wrong color.

Or do you have another Boy Scout camp-out that
weekend?


I don't know what weekend the reunion is, so I don't know if I have a
Scout trip or not. But I did have an enjoyable Memorial Day weekend
camping with all of my sons, without the Scouts.


Congratulations.


Did you get a "medical discharge" from the Scouts, too?

[just wondering what was on your "DD-214" from BSA...]

Do you realize that I was never in a comm career field?


Your point is?

What part of "former members" did you have a problem with?


Poor nursie never do no military comms. Tsk, tsk.

Do you know
that I resigned from the BST when I left Illinois, and have not
rejoined MARS at this new location?

What qualifications would I attend under?


What part of "former members" did you not understand?

Sheeeeesh.


Your member got cut off? Oh, no, you only ACT like John Wayne
whatsisname. Sorry about dat.

Are you claiming that Boy Scouts make up MARS now?

It's very difficult to follow where nursie are going wid dis...

LHA / WMD

Steve Robeson K4CAP June 8th 04 12:01 PM

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From: (William)
Date: 6/7/2004 7:53 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...


Your "fear" is that I will be able to make an even bigger fool of
you in person that I do via this forum.

Actually, No. I fear that you'll go postal and people will get hurt.


Only if you raise your hands above your waist with a blunt object in it.
And that would be " a person"...not "people".

Otherwise I'll just point and snicker...Kinda like I have been doing for
the last two years. That I can do from here.

So you want me to travel across the country because I used to be a BST
volunteer at SAFB?

Sheeeeeeesh!


Only if you thought that your being at a social function with other
like-minded radio afficiondoes was something you'd find rewarding. The
solicitation invited all persons who had some past participation/interest in
the program. Obviously you weren't that interested or dedicated to the
program.

But since I doubt that you were much more help to that BST than you've
been to the "DXing Community" with your T5 experiences, no, I doubt that your
being at a convention of past or present MARS participants would be
appropriate.

Steve, K4YZ






Avery Hightower June 8th 04 07:00 PM


"Steve Robeson K4CAP" wrote in message
...

Only if you thought that your being at a social function with other
like-minded radio afficiondoes was something you'd find rewarding.


In my experience (yours may differ) the 'afficiondoes' (sic) tend toward
socially-inept ill-groomed gentlemen in quasi-officious looking jumpsuits
with lots of embroidered badges, and ballcaps with 'scrambled eggs' on the
bill. Distinctly unrewarding!

73,

Avery




William June 8th 04 10:54 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 7:53 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...


Your "fear" is that I will be able to make an even bigger fool of
you in person that I do via this forum.

Actually, No. I fear that you'll go postal and people will get hurt.


Only if you raise your hands above your waist with a blunt object in it.
And that would be " a person"...not "people".


I don't think it would take that much to get a violent reaction from
you, so please stay away from me.

Otherwise I'll just point and snicker...Kinda like I have been doing for
the last two years. That I can do from here.


I offer you some constructive criticism (get mental health help), but
you point and snicker? You libs are all alike.

So you want me to travel across the country because I used to be a BST
volunteer at SAFB?

Sheeeeeeesh!


Only if you thought that your being at a social function with other
like-minded radio afficiondoes was something you'd find rewarding. The
solicitation invited all persons who had some past participation/interest in
the program. Obviously you weren't that interested or dedicated to the
program.


I've always participated to a greater extent than required. However,
I am no longer a participant.

But since I doubt that you were much more help to that BST than you've
been to the "DXing Community" with your T5 experiences, no, I doubt that your
being at a convention of past or present MARS participants would be
appropriate.


Perhaps you'll find some handicap parking when you get there.

Len Over 21 June 8th 04 11:08 PM

In article ,
(Meaningful Discussionist percussionist) writes:

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 7:53 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
e.com...


Your "fear" is that I will be able to make an even bigger fool of
you in person that I do via this forum.

Actually, No. I fear that you'll go postal and people will get hurt.


Only if you raise your hands above your waist with a blunt object in it.

And that would be " a person"...not "people".

Otherwise I'll just point and snicker...Kinda like I have been doing for
the last two years. That I can do from here.


No guts, gunnery nurse? Don't you need to "strike some blow
for freedom" or other patriotic sloganeering about keeping
hum radio as you know it?

You HAVE flipped off the edge of sanity.

So you want me to travel across the country because I used to be a BST
volunteer at SAFB?

Sheeeeeeesh!


Only if you thought that your being at a social function with other
like-minded radio afficiondoes was something you'd find rewarding. The
solicitation invited all persons who had some past participation/interest in
the program. Obviously you weren't that interested or dedicated to the
program.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...if gunnery nurse isn't at this convention, then she
isn't really interested or dedicated to the program! :-)

[it's "afficionadoes" nursie...try keeping some typing control there]

But since I doubt that you were much more help to that BST than you've
been to the "DXing Community" with your T5 experiences, no, I doubt that your
being at a convention of past or present MARS participants would be
appropriate.


The state of the art of military ordinance would be greatly in debt
to the gunnery nurse's secrets on exploding random sayings into
nuclear-style blasting! :-)

That and the USOC on such prodigious Leaps of subjects...greater
than Bob Beamon's record-setting long-jump performance in
Mexico City.

It must be nursie's "seven hostile actions" experience... :-)

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 June 8th 04 11:50 PM

In article ,
(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 6/7/2004 7:53 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
.com...


Your "fear" is that I will be able to make an even bigger fool of
you in person that I do via this forum.

Actually, No. I fear that you'll go postal and people will get hurt.


Only if you raise your hands above your waist with a blunt object in

it.
And that would be " a person"...not "people".


I don't think it would take that much to get a violent reaction from
you, so please stay away from me.


The gunnery nurse explodes at regular intervals in here.

In that case, the label "OF" should apply..."Old Faithful."

[he is in everyoneth's faith a lot...'specially when his faith is
somehow challenged]

Otherwise I'll just point and snicker...Kinda like I have been doing

for
the last two years. That I can do from here.


I offer you some constructive criticism (get mental health help), but
you point and snicker? You libs are all alike.


The psychotics never understand that they are the nutsos.

Might be "post-traumatic stress syndrome" from all those
"hostile actions" in the "service."

So you want me to travel across the country because I used to be a BST
volunteer at SAFB?

Sheeeeeeesh!


Only if you thought that your being at a social function with other
like-minded radio afficiondoes was something you'd find rewarding. The
solicitation invited all persons who had some past participation/interest in
the program. Obviously you weren't that interested or dedicated to the
program.


I've always participated to a greater extent than required. However,
I am no longer a participant.


Not good enough for nursie.

Everyone must obey His directives...as stated. :-)

But since I doubt that you were much more help to that BST than you've
been to the "DXing Community" with your T5 experiences, no, I doubt that

your
being at a convention of past or present MARS participants would be
appropriate.


Perhaps you'll find some handicap parking when you get there.


:-)



Steve Robeson K4CAP June 9th 04 02:32 AM

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 4:54 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


And that would be " a person"...not "people".


I don't think it would take that much to get a violent reaction from
you, so please stay away from me.


You'll only get a "violent reaction" if you brandish a weapon.

As for staying away, I doubt that will be a problem...You seem to haev a
strong aversion to doing anything in a positive interactive manner with other
Amateurs.

You do, however, seem to prefer the company of young boys.

Otherwise I'll just point and snicker...Kinda like I have been doing

for
the last two years. That I can do from here.


I offer you some constructive criticism (get mental health help), but
you point and snicker? You libs are all alike.


I am sure you wish I was a liberal.

And I am still awaiting your presentation of credentials that would
substantiate your recommendation for seeking "mental health help".

I on the otherhand DO have experience in dealing with people who have
various mental problems, and you seem to manifest examples of those problems.
Telling tales that can't be validated is one of them.

Making excuses for failures is another.

So you want me to travel across the country because I used to be a BST
volunteer at SAFB?

Sheeeeeeesh!


Only if you thought that your being at a social function with other
like-minded radio afficiondoes was something you'd find rewarding. The
solicitation invited all persons who had some past participation/interest

in
the program. Obviously you weren't that interested or dedicated to the
program.


I've always participated to a greater extent than required. However,
I am no longer a participant.


I doubt you ever were. You've already set a precedent for doubting your
word. What about this should change anyone's mind to the contrary? I wonder
if you were ever more than an name on a list...?!?!

But since I doubt that you were much more help to that BST than you've
been to the "DXing Community" with your T5 experiences, no, I doubt that

your
being at a convention of past or present MARS participants would be
appropriate.


Perhaps you'll find some handicap parking when you get there.


Perhaps you'll find it within you to own up to your claims.

I doubt it, but there's always hope.

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP June 9th 04 02:39 AM

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From: (William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:31 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


It's quite sad that an quasi-adult (ok, ok, so he's closing in on 50)
has to continually scramble for recognition from some kind of uniform
or badge or license or callsign.


Hmmmmm...Coming from a Boy Scout Leader, the "some kind of uniform" and
badges comment was cute!

That would probably indicate some kind of insecurity or lack of
self-worth.


Or sense of accomplishment.

Please remind me of the last significant public service accomplishment YOU
fulfilled, Brain...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ






Len Over 21 June 9th 04 05:36 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:31 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


It's quite sad that an quasi-adult (ok, ok, so he's closing in on 50)
has to continually scramble for recognition from some kind of uniform
or badge or license or callsign.


Hmmmmm...Coming from a Boy Scout Leader, the "some kind of uniform" and
badges comment was cute!

That would probably indicate some kind of insecurity or lack of
self-worth.


Or sense of accomplishment.


Sewing on all those patches and badges takes skill and perseverance.
Of course it is an accomplishment for all that sewing!

"As ye sew so shall ye rip" or something like that.

See? Your all tied up in nuts and can't move anything but snarly
lips muttering angry comments...and sometimes in languages
you can't understand.

[such a goyim, such a schmuck...oy, gevalt!]

It must be this wonderful nature of "meaningful discussion" going
on... :-)

Too bad no one is really "discussing" amateur radio, only other
personalities. Tsk, tsk.

LHA / WMD

Len Over 21 June 9th 04 05:36 AM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 4:54 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


And that would be " a person"...not "people".


I don't think it would take that much to get a violent reaction from
you, so please stay away from me.


You'll only get a "violent reaction" if you brandish a weapon.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...getting angry because someone interrupted your
time "pleasuring J.Lo as she begged you to?" :-)

You've opened the bottle of brandish again, haven't you?

Don't drink and newsgroup...

As for staying away, I doubt that will be a problem...You seem to haev a
strong aversion to doing anything in a positive interactive manner with other
Amateurs.


Whoa! It's Mirror Time!

You do, however, seem to prefer the company of young boys.


And the gunnery nurse prefers the company of his fantasies
and dreams of "pleasuring Jennifer Lopez as she 'begged' him to."

...and then getting in here when unable to play well with others.

Otherwise I'll just point and snicker...Kinda like I have been doing

for
the last two years. That I can do from here.


I offer you some constructive criticism (get mental health help), but
you point and snicker? You libs are all alike.


I am sure you wish I was a liberal.


Most of us wish you were a homo sapiens. :-)

You DO act like you are homogenized hatred in a bottle.

And I am still awaiting your presentation of credentials that would
substantiate your recommendation for seeking "mental health help".


No problem. No "credentials" needed to see someone rant and
rave, misspell words in the rage of angry reply typing, refuse to
accept military directives and government regulations when they
are explained to you, cuss out others in languages you don't
know, pretend to know so much about "radio" but demonstrate
you know squat, tell tall tales of derring-do that can't be proved
by anyone, calling everyone that disagrees with for "liar" and
lots of other nutso behavior.

Not even an AA in psychology is needed for "diagnosing" mental
instability on the part of the gunnery nurse.

I on the otherhand DO have experience in dealing with people who have
various mental problems, and you seem to manifest examples of those problems.


Yes you do, as is proved by your "J.Lo at your door begging you to
pleasure her." [weird...]

It must be Mirror Time!

[the glass is cracked...]

Telling tales that can't be validated is one of them.

Making excuses for failures is another.


"Failures?" What "failures?"

You still looking into that cracked mirror?


"MARS is amateur radio!" "Hostile actions" in your records!

Nursie do da commissioning of amateur radio on Fantasy
Island? Did Mr. Roarke appoint him as chief Ham hocker?

Lots of disturbed, angry folks on that Island. Not at all like
the TV version. Must be some "TVI."

Meaningful Discussion = Nursie cussing out all who disagree.

LHA / WMD

Dave Heil June 9th 04 04:15 PM

Len Over 21 wrote:

Too bad no one is really "discussing" amateur radio, only other
personalities. Tsk, tsk.


Leonard, you don't seem to be discussing amateur radio and you do seem
quite involved in discussing personalities. You have nothing to do with
amateur radio but you've chosen to entertain us with your IEEE tales.
A short sampling of some of your output for just the past week may be
found below:

"Sewing on all those patches and badges takes skill and perseverance."

"So, was there a lot of gunfire and gore in all your 'hostile actions?'"

"Did nursie sign into the RRAPnet at 9 PM eastern?"

"Still off the meds, huh? Not good."

"Let's all hear it for Amateur Astronaut Captain Buck Video!"

"Gunnery nurse has laid lots of logs out in this newsgroup."

"Nursie needs mental therapy for all that hatred and
desire for revenge burning deep. Straightjacket and rubber room
is a good start..."

"The only one agreeing with the gunnery nurse is the Dill
Instructor. [two different personalities in same corpus]"

"Sucking up to your SS commander, gunnery nurse?"

"Might not last too long, that job. About as long as the "Purchasing
Agent" job did. "

"Dan, get a new eyeshade and little garters to hold up your
shirtsleeves. Be a good little telegrapher."

"Too bad you beepers can't bring yourself to USE computers."

"You are being overly sensitive to criticsm, catapult kellie. :-)"

"Did nursie put on his Colonel Jessup uniform again?"

"Heap big nutso nursie need mental therapy."

"Did you invade Fantasy Island again?"

"Several newsgroup fully-licensed blowhards have demanded
proof, nursie. You be one of them."

You are to amateur radio what a nine iron is to a basketball game.

Dave K8MN

William June 9th 04 07:13 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:31 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


It's quite sad that an quasi-adult (ok, ok, so he's closing in on 50)
has to continually scramble for recognition from some kind of uniform
or badge or license or callsign.


Hmmmmm...Coming from a Boy Scout Leader, the "some kind of uniform" and
badges comment was cute!


Badges? I don't need no stinking badges.

I put on a hat so that the other parents can see that they have
someone to come to if they have an issue. Not into the whole
"authority" thing. Your mileage absolutely varies.

That would probably indicate some kind of insecurity or lack of
self-worth.


Or sense of accomplishment.


I've accomplished enough in this lifetime. Now I want to make sure my
son's have a good environment to begin their accomplishments.

Please remind me of the last significant public service accomplishment YOU
fulfilled, Brain...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


I killed some invasive species a couple of weeks ago. I'm going to do
the same next week.

Len Over 21 June 9th 04 09:35 PM

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Too bad no one is really "discussing" amateur radio, only other
personalities. Tsk, tsk.


Leonard, you don't seem to be discussing amateur radio and you do seem
quite involved in discussing personalities.


They dis-cuss me, now they get dis-cussed right back. Very
easy..."it just seems to write itself," those replies... :-)

I didn't start the cussing of personalities, big state honcho.

If you don't like this "dis-cussing" then cancel everyone's access.
You seem to think you have the Power. Go for it. Just don't
cry and whine about others when your power is ineffective.

You have nothing to do with
amateur radio but you've chosen to entertain us with your IEEE tales.


Awww...poor baby...doing the "dis-cussing" think yourself, aren't
you? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Now you are going to start a whole other series of thinly-disguised
personal attack messages all about how you are some kind of
"moral authority" on newsgroup manners and all those not talking
specifically on your approved mode of amateur radio should be
excluded from this newsgroup!

Go for it, big ex-state honcho. Waste bandwidth for all I care.
You DO waste everyone's time with all that preaching of old-tyme
"moral amateur authority."

If you are going to turn your collar around, try to get your head to
go with it, okay?

I have many friends and acquaintences who are professionals, IEEE
members, and also licensed radio amateurs. KD6JG is one of
those, so is W6MJN. N2JTV may not be an IEEE member but his
with another professional group of FAA employees.

Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV, was assigned to the same military job
I had at Army station ADA, same duties initially but on a different
shift. Our billet was at Hardy Barracks, one of the last of the old
U.S. military sites (much reduced in size) in Tokyo. That was "big
time radio communications" on HF with a 24/7 schedule...which
you said "never happened." Tsk, tsk, tsk. Army disagres with you.

You've FAILED to correct another personal attack percussionist
in here who said "MARS is amateur radio." MARS is a military
radio service and so defined by the Department of Defense in
Directive 4650.2 effective 21 Nov 03.

You should keep better control over those who are under your
command, Herr Robust.

Gruss gott.

LHA / WMD

Dave Heil June 9th 04 10:47 PM

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Too bad no one is really "discussing" amateur radio, only other
personalities. Tsk, tsk.


Leonard, you don't seem to be discussing amateur radio and you do seem
quite involved in discussing personalities.


They dis-cuss me, now they get dis-cussed right back. Very
easy..."it just seems to write itself," those replies... :-)


You've done it before, doing and after.

I didn't start the cussing of personalities, big state honcho.


Actually, you've done such since your appearance in r.r.a.p. West
Virginia, by the way, is actually a small state. I've not been elected
to public office--but it's early.

If you don't like this "dis-cussing" then cancel everyone's access.
You seem to think you have the Power. Go for it. Just don't
cry and whine about others when your power is ineffective.


Your lament was: "Too bad no one is really "discussing" amateur radio,
only other personalities. Tsk, tsk." Shouldn't you be the individual
to request cancellation of access? Just don't cry and whine (as you've
been doing) when your power is ineffective.

You have nothing to do with
amateur radio but you've chosen to entertain us with your IEEE tales.


Awww...poor baby...doing the "dis-cussing" think yourself, aren't
you? Tsk, tsk, tsk.


Poor Leonard, I'm drawing your attention to that which you decry in
others but in which you are a constant participant.

Now you are going to start a whole other series of thinly-disguised
personal attack messages all about how you are some kind of
"moral authority" on newsgroup manners and all those not talking
specifically on your approved mode of amateur radio should be
excluded from this newsgroup!


Talking on my approved mode of amateur radio? You aren't talking via
amateur radio at all.

Go for it, big ex-state honcho.


West Virginia is a currently a state. I'm not a honcho. I just live
here.

Waste bandwidth for all I care.


Bandwidth? Tell us how the bandwidth is wasted. It is either there or
it isn't.

You DO waste everyone's time with all that preaching of old-tyme
"moral amateur authority."


Everyone hasn't spoken on the topic, Len. That must be your opinion but
then, you aren't involved in amateur radio so it shouldn't be your
concern.

If you are going to turn your collar around, try to get your head to
go with it, okay?


Izzat how you do it?

I have many friends and acquaintences who are professionals, IEEE
members, and also licensed radio amateurs. KD6JG is one of
those, so is W6MJN. N2JTV may not be an IEEE member but his
with another professional group of FAA employees.


That's fine. They are involved in amateur radio. You aren't.

Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV, was assigned to the same military job
I had at Army station ADA, same duties initially but on a different
shift. Our billet was at Hardy Barracks, one of the last of the old
U.S. military sites (much reduced in size) in Tokyo.


Super. Gene is a radio amateur. You are not.

That was "big
time radio communications" on HF with a 24/7 schedule...which
you said "never happened."


That's quite incorrect. I wrote that you've never worked 24/7.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Army disagres with you.


To my knowledge, the Army hasn't issued an opinion of whether you ever
worked 24/7.

You've FAILED to correct another personal attack percussionist
in here who said "MARS is amateur radio."


Since when is it my responsibility to defend and protect you?

MARS is a military
radio service and so defined by the Department of Defense in
Directive 4650.2 effective 21 Nov 03.


Without radio amateurs, there'd be no MARS program worth implementing.
You go on writing what you believe to be truth, Leonard. You are no
more involved with the MARS program than you are with amateur radio.

You should keep better control over those who are under your
command, Herr Robust.


Ummm....Len? I don't have a command. Do you have a command?

Gruss gott.


To this point, you've had difficulty deciding whether I am a "gott" or
am not a "gott".

Be that as it may, you are to amateur radio like a motorcycle to a
rodeo.

Dave K8MN

Steve Robeson K4CAP June 10th 04 02:31 AM

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From: Dave Heil
Date: 6/9/2004 4:47 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil


writes:


You have nothing to do with
amateur radio but you've chosen to entertain us with your IEEE tales.


Awww...poor baby...doing the "dis-cussing" think yourself, aren't
you? Tsk, tsk, tsk.


Poor Leonard, I'm drawing your attention to that which you decry in
others but in which you are a constant participant.


BAAAAAM!

(Hammer hitting nail on the head)

Lennie is famous (infamous) for demanding certain "rules of engagement",
but then breaks them with each subsequent post.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"....Leonard H.
Anderson...alleged engineer

73

Steve, K4YZ






Steve Robeson K4CAP June 10th 04 03:05 AM

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From: (William)
Date: 6/9/2004 1:13 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 6:31 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


It's quite sad that an quasi-adult (ok, ok, so he's closing in on 50)
has to continually scramble for recognition from some kind of uniform
or badge or license or callsign.


Hmmmmm...Coming from a Boy Scout Leader, the "some kind of uniform"

and
badges comment was cute!


Badges? I don't need no stinking badges.


A Boy Scout Leader without a shirt full of "been there-done that" patches?
That's all that hold some of thier shirts together!

I put on a hat so that the other parents can see that they have
someone to come to if they have an issue. Not into the whole
"authority" thing. Your mileage absolutely varies.


Luckily in the organization I participate in, many of the molestation and
abuse issues that pop up in other organizations is no where near as prevelent
due to the "authority thing".

That would probably indicate some kind of insecurity or lack of
self-worth.


Or sense of accomplishment.


I've accomplished enough in this lifetime. Now I want to make sure my
son's have a good environment to begin their accomplishments.


"Enough"...?!?!

Sounds to me like "mediocrity" is your goal. I am sure you have
accomplished it.

I see every day as yet another opportunity to accomplish even one more
thing.

And in doing so, I am ALSO able to "make sure my (daughter has) a good
enviroment to begin (her) accomplishments".

Sounds to me like "multi-tasking" is yet another one of your failings.

Sucks to be you.

Please remind me of the last significant public service accomplishment

YOU
fulfilled, Brain...?!?!


I killed some invasive species a couple of weeks ago. I'm going to do
the same next week.


Headlice again, Brain...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ







William June 10th 04 03:37 AM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 6/8/2004 4:54 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


And that would be " a person"...not "people".


I don't think it would take that much to get a violent reaction from
you, so please stay away from me.


You'll only get a "violent reaction" if you brandish a weapon.


Open carry is legal.

As for staying away, I doubt that will be a problem...


Just keep it that way.

You seem to haev a
strong aversion to doing anything in a positive interactive manner with other
Amateurs.


don't forget MARS.

You do, however, seem to prefer the company of young boys.


In an Akela sort of way.

Otherwise I'll just point and snicker...Kinda like I have been doing

for
the last two years. That I can do from here.


I offer you some constructive criticism (get mental health help), but
you point and snicker? You libs are all alike.


I am sure you wish I was a liberal.

And I am still awaiting your presentation of credentials that would
substantiate your recommendation for seeking "mental health help".


I'm sure after Columbine some people stood around and said "I had no
idea those two boys were nuts," and others stood around saying, "I
told you those two were nuts."

In any case, no one in a position of authority took notice.

I on the otherhand DO have experience in dealing with people who have
various mental problems, and you seem to manifest examples of those problems.
Telling tales that can't be validated is one of them.


Which of your personalities told tales of seven hostile actions?

Making excuses for failures is another.


Failure? I don't recall any failure, except for you to show how,
"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."

Hi, hi.

So you want me to travel across the country because I used to be a BST
volunteer at SAFB?

Sheeeeeeesh!

Only if you thought that your being at a social function with other
like-minded radio afficiondoes was something you'd find rewarding. The
solicitation invited all persons who had some past participation/interest

in
the program. Obviously you weren't that interested or dedicated to the
program.


I've always participated to a greater extent than required. However,
I am no longer a participant.


I doubt you ever were. You've already set a precedent for doubting your
word.


I've never doubted my word.

What about this should change anyone's mind to the contrary? I wonder
if you were ever more than an name on a list...?!?!


I'm sure that you're a name on a list. Probably multiple lists. I
hope someone in authority takes notice.

But since I doubt that you were much more help to that BST than you've
been to the "DXing Community" with your T5 experiences, no, I doubt that

your
being at a convention of past or present MARS participants would be
appropriate.


Perhaps you'll find some handicap parking when you get there.


Perhaps you'll find it within you to own up to your claims.


I claim that MARS is NOT Amateur Radio.

I doubt it, but there's always hope.


I just proved you wrong again.

Steve Robeson K4CAP June 10th 04 04:50 AM

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From: (William)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message
...


You'll only get a "violent reaction" if you brandish a weapon.


Open carry is legal.


More ignorance, Brain.

Do you not know the difference between "brandish" and "carry" as it
pertains to firearms in the State of Ohio?

I do, and I ahven't lived there for 30 years!

As for staying away, I doubt that will be a problem...


Just keep it that way.


No. I'll come and go as I please.

You do, however, seem to prefer the company of young boys.


In an Akela sort of way.


More like in a NAMBLA kind of way.

And I am still awaiting your presentation of credentials that would
substantiate your recommendation for seeking "mental health help".


I'm sure after Columbine some people stood around and said "I had no
idea those two boys were nuts," and others stood around saying, "I
told you those two were nuts."

In any case, no one in a position of authority took notice.


Yes, they did.

The problem was one of those Constitutional nightmares. Do they "do
something" BEFORE the fact, violating their "civil rights", or do they wait
until some actual infraction of civil or criminal law takes place? This has
been discussed thouroughly vis-a-vis Columbine.

America has been hamstringed for decades by this problem.

The same circumstances existed prior to September 11th. All of the
"intelligence" agencies had information that "something" was going to happen,
but no one thing done by any of the plotters had violated anything serious
enough to get them arrested pre-emptively.

If, on September 10th, the President had announced the arrest of those 20
plotters and thier "alleged" plot, the ACLU, the Arab-American League, etc etc
would have been screaming bloddy murder, claiming the "plotters" were only
being harrassed due to thier nationality or religion.

Which of your personalities told tales of seven hostile actions?


The one who told you in private of some of them, only to have you discuss
those private e mails in the NG.

Just like Lennie, you are not to be trusted.

Making excuses for failures is another.


Failure? I don't recall any failure, except for you to show how,
"Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio."


No Amateur Radio = No MARS.

Hi, hi.


It's "ha ha"...."Hi Hi" is a Morse Code abbreviation.

I doubt you ever were. You've already set a precedent for doubting

your
word.


I've never doubted my word.


And I am sure that you beleive every word you say, no matter how unfactual
they are.

Perhaps you'll find it within you to own up to your claims.


I claim that MARS is NOT Amateur Radio.


Congratualtions. Other than your name and callsign, you've got ONE thing
you can claim as being correct. However you have yet to DISprove my assertion
that without Amateur Radio, MARS, as it presently exists, would not be able to
function.

(Lennie jumps in at this point to cut-and-paste various military
directives, none of which disprove the assertion made.)

I doubt it, but there's always hope.


I just proved you wrong again.


Hardly. The other evidence to the contrary is overwhelming.

Steve, K4YZ






William June 10th 04 11:42 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From:
(William)
Date: 6/9/2004 9:37 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


I claim that MARS is NOT Amateur Radio.


Congratualtions. Other than your name and callsign, you've got ONE thing
you can claim as being correct.


Are we to understand that you have capitulated?

Hardly. The other evidence to the contrary is overwhelming.


Just as I thought. You're hopeless. May God have mercy on your soul.

Steve Robeson K4CAP June 12th 04 08:35 AM

Subject: Attention MARS & Ex MARS Operators
From: (William)
Date: 6/10/2004 5:42 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


Just as I thought. You're hopeless. May God have mercy on your soul.


At least I have one, Brain.

Steve, K4YZ







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